GPU for home video editing?

[rk4adtch]

hi everyone,

my setup:
AMD X555 BE (unlocked to 4 cores)
4 GB RAM
Win 7 64bit
Asus M4A88T-V Evo with Radeon HD4250 on-board graphics
Antec 500W Eaathwatts powersupply

I checked the forums, and didn't find too much info for home-video editing GPUs. there is one question which seems to be useful for me, I will track that one too. If you think that thread answers my question, then please consider answering only question #3 below.

I want to capture and edit lots of DV Tape video, and then start on the AVCHD video from the Sony HX5V. Right now, I don't have much problem, since the capture with Premiere elements 9 (trial verson) is fine. But it is a little slow for rendering, so I was thnking if adding a dedicated video card will help? Might it be useful for when I starting work on AVCHD? I don't do gaming or any other GPU-intensive things. I don't have a budget, but would like to buy what I need, and not anything more. So, my questions:

1. should I just stay with on-board?
2. if new card, what recommendation?
3. Since this is AMD cpu, should I stick with ATI rather than nVidia?

Bonus qustion: Suggestions for video capture and editing software for home movies

thanks!

 

[RavenSEAL]

HD5670 should fit perfectly, although, depending on your power supply, you can grab an HD4850 for $70 which even allows for gaming.

 

[taltamir]

HD5670 should fit perfectly, although, depending on your power supply, you can grab an HD4850 for $70 which even allows for gaming.

... since when do AMD cards let you accelerate the rendering of h264 video?

 

[RavenSEAL]

... since when do AMD cards let you accelerate the rendering of h264 video?

Wow, i really mest up there didn't i....

Sorry OP, misread badly :s

 

[tweakboy]

Grab a 9800GT if on budget.

Grab the 460 768mb

This will do good in Premiere or whatever you use. You can play games too.

 

[taltamir]

well, its a matter of budget. The faster the card he buys, the faster it will make the encodes. Its a question of how much he is willing to spend, how much he cares about speed and whether he is willing to be limited on which programs he uses (only some specific programs use CUDA to accelerate encoding)

 

[Idontcare]

I want to capture and edit lots of DV Tape video, and then start on the AVCHD video from the Sony HX5V.

Bonus qustion: Suggestions for video capture and editing software for home movies

If you are pulling video from a camcorder/video recorder then you are going to find yourself wanting to do some video noise reduction.

I use TMPGEnc for this, nice noise reduction filters, and the filters are all CUDA enabled.

I bought a GTX460 for the job and have been happy with it.

 

[1h4x4s3x]

But it is a little slow for rendering, so I was thnking if adding a dedicated video card will help? Might it be useful for when I starting work on AVCHD?

Additional or newer video cards won't help you render faster. What you need is a faster CPU.

 

[wahdangun]

don't use CUDA or any hardware accelerated for rendering, the best way is till use fast CPU, and more core is better like AMD X6

but if you just want fast and simple and not too important video, go for AMD and mediaespreso

here are some article from tomshardware regarding GPU accelerated video transcoding

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/video-transcoding-amd-app-nvidia-cuda-intel-quicksync,2839-9.html

 

[rk4adtch]

thanks for answers. I forgot to add that I have 500W Antec earthwatts PSU(just added that to my first post also).

WahDanGun: I have not overclock my CPU yet, perhaps I will try that too. But for the comment about using X6 instead, does it mean Premiere Elements(not full premiere) can take advantage of multiple core?

IDontCare: About TMPGEnc, do you suggest this because Premiere elements does not do noise reduction?

So also assume Nvidia is the way to go(both 460 and 9800GT)? any preferred manufacturer?

thanks!

 

[taltamir]

Nero and DVD fab both are really easy to use and use CUDA acceleration.
Handbrake is relatively simple to use and it is absolutely free, AFAIK it uses no GPU acceleration. You can do batch processing with handbrake, so you can start all of them in the day and have them finish overnight

Personally I wouldn't pay for a GPU just to accelerate encode times but to each his own.

 

[Idontcare]

IDontCare: About TMPGEnc, do you suggest this because Premiere elements does not do noise reduction?

I recommend only because I use it for the exact purpose you detailed and I know for a fact it works.

As others have noted you want to avoid transcoders that use the video card for actual transcoding...but that is not what TMPGEnc used CUDA for.

TMPGEnc uses Cuda for just the video filters where it produces identical results but with faster processing times.

So it (the Cuda part of TMPGEnc) is useless if you aren't going to use the filters but as I said if you are transcoding home video you are going to find yourself wanting to do some degree of video noise-filtering and Cuda+TMPGEnc is a combo that I have found to do this quite well.

 

[rk4adtch]

IDontCare: thanks for the explanation. I read about CUDA, and it appears to be an Nvidia technology? So I will need to get a Nvidia card to use it, i that correct? Do the GT9800 support it?

 

[artvscommerce]

IDontCare: thanks for the explanation. I read about CUDA, and it appears to be an Nvidia technology? So I will need to get a Nvidia card to use it, i that correct? Do the GT9800 support it?

The 9800GT supports CUDA. The 8000 series was the first to implement CUDA.

 

[Phynaz]

If you are pulling video from a camcorder/video recorder then you are going to find yourself wanting to do some video noise reduction.

I use TMPGEnc for this, nice noise reduction filters, and the filters are all CUDA enabled.

I bought a GTX460 for the job and have been happy with it.

CUDA support for video editing and rendering is why my next GPU will be Nvidia.

Stay far away from using ATI for this purpose, it's a major disappointment with my HD5770

 

[timma]

buy gigabyte 5670 OC or wait for GTX 550 Ti OC~
CUDA/Phyx is still faster than AMD stream ><