GPU & Computer Build Help

[twcracing]

Hey Gaming guys! I built my own computer a few years back and it caught fire, so it is time for a new one! I would rather not build one but if I have too I will.

I am currently looking at the - Asus - Essentio Desktop - 12GB Memory - 2TB Hard Drive. It has the GTX 760 GPU, i7 4770S and I am not sure about the mother board. My Monitor is 1920x1080 and I might OC

I will be gaming (DayZ, BF4, Titan Fall, and Arma 3.

I have a few questions. I plan on gaming and Tendering HD Videos for YouTube. Will the Asus fit my needs to run games at a good FPS? If not, can I do Dual GTX 760's SLI? Thanks Guys! YOU ARE AWESOME!

 

[blake0812]

How much for the desktop? The i7 is a bit overkill for games, I'd settle for an i5. You don't need 12GB (in my opinion), and you'll probably only use 1TB of data. If you ask me, i'd go with 8gb ram, 1TB HDD (and a SDD for Windows), and get a GTX 780ti or just settle for a 770, with an i5 from the current generation.

 

[twcracing]

How much for the desktop? The i7 is a bit overkill for games, I'd settle for an i5. You don't need 12GB (in my opinion), and you'll probably only use 1TB of data. If you ask me, i'd go with 8gb ram, 1TB HDD (and a SDD for Windows), and get a GTX 780ti or just settle for a 770, with an i5 from the current generation.

It is selling for $1025.99

 

[Stuka87]

I disagree on the above comment regarding the i7. More and more games are using four threads. And you will get better performance if you still have some thread time available for OS related things.

However, a 4770S is not overclockable. You need a K series chip to overclock.

The GPU should be over clockable, but will really depend on the PSU.

If you really want to OC, build your own system. Its not difficult.

 

[blake0812]

I disagree on the above comment regarding the i7. More and more games are using four threads. And you will get better performance if you still have some thread time available for OS related things.

However, a 4770S is not overclockable. You need a K series chip to overclock.

The GPU should be over clockable, but will really depend on the PSU.

If you really want to OC, build your own system. Its not difficult.

In that case he should go with an FX 8350 then, not trying to discredit you but I don't see the justification of getting an i7 over an i5 when really the performance is more or less the same.

 

[yepp]

If that 760 is a 3GB or 1.5GB OEM model, it's a crippled 760 and performance is actually somewhere between a 660 and 660 Ti.

 

[Stuka87]

In that case he should go with an FX 8350 then, not trying to discredit you but I don't see the justification of getting an i7 over an i5 when really the performance is more or less the same.

Its only the same in poorly threaded games. Games that use 4-8 cores offer better performance with the i7 over the i5. BF4 is one of these.

 

[blake0812]

Its only the same in poorly threaded games. Games that use 4-8 cores offer better performance with the i7 over the i5. BF4 is one of these.

Seems minimal, but whatever. I guess you can go with the i7 then, though I think it's a waste of money, but hey one mans trash is another mans treasure!

 

[CRV]

Not sure what model is that computer, but this is the one I got http://www.amazon.com/Asus-M51AD-US0...us+m51ad+usoo2
It comes with a $80 rebate.

Instead of an i7, it comes with an i5 4440. It also come with Asus Nvidia GTX 760, but it is the OEM version (192-bits instead of the standard 256-bits) and it is 3GB. 1 TB hard drive and 8 GB memory. Personally I would rather build one. You will save money and get what you want. I have it less than a month and I already changed the 500w PSU to a 750w PSU. Plus I also changed the GPU to a Sapphire AMD R9 290 Tri-X OC.

The stock computer was a mid-grade level gaming computer. I average around 55-65 fps on high settings in BF4 and 40-50 fps on Ultra settings. Now I'm averaging 70-100 fps on Ultra settings on the Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC. I never build a PC before, but after changing out the PSU and GPU, I feel as it isn't that hard. Build one youreslf, save money, and get parts that you want. With $1000 you can build a pretty good gaming PC.

 

[Denithor]

I never build a PC before, but after changing out the PSU and GPU, I feel as it isn't that hard. Build one youreslf, save money, and get parts that you want. With $1000 you can build a pretty good gaming PC.

This.

These days it is ridiculously simple to build yourself, you know exactly what components are in there and you get exactly what you want, generally for lower cost than prebuilt.

And don't listen to those guys who say you must have a "K" processor to overclock - the non-K chips overclock up to 6 speed bins above stock as long as you get a "Z" chipset motherboard. My vanilla i7 3770 will run at 4.3GHz all day long with a simple BIOS adjustment.

 

[Stuka87]

Seems minimal, but whatever. I guess you can go with the i7 then, though I think it's a waste of money, but hey one mans trash is another mans treasure!

An 18% increase AVG in FPS, and a 22% increase in minimum FPS is minimal?

22% in minimums is huge, and can easily be the difference between jerky play and smooth play.

 

[blake0812]

An 18% increase AVG in FPS, and a 22% increase in minimum FPS is minimal?

22% in minimums is huge, and can easily be the difference between jerky play and smooth play.

Minimal probably wasn't the best word to use, to me it's minimal given that I play lightweight games and I can get up to there.

 

[Headfoot]

Don't buy one. Building a computer is very easy and there is an absolute wealth of guides and information on how to do it. Not to mention you're halfway there by coming to this forum. Not building your own machine is only really reasonable if you are loaded and can buy the boutique pre-overclocked PCs where you don't lose any benefit but the cash savings, or where you are too lazy to spend the few hours it takes. After following a guide you will feel great about putting it together yourself, you will save money, it will be faster, and it will be more upgradeable. I find it fun myself and you might too.

To answer your questions directly, you are going to want to avoid doing a 760 SLI and try to get a R9 290 or a GTX 780 instead. It'll save you headaches and power usage associated with multi-card configurations. (This is the kind of thing you can change easily when you build yourself, fwiw)

 

[Majcric]

If you're buying today go with an i7, games gradually making the move to more cores and I imagine this will be even more profound in 6 months-1year.