GPU Clock Speed/Memory Clock Speed

[AspireApex]

Hi, I need some help badly,

I just got my X1650 Pro today and installed it. Of course I immediately decided to overclock it when I realized something strange. All the drivers were installed and ati-tool was installed as well. However when I looked at the clock speed, it said 500mhz (100 mhz less than advertised) and the memory clock at 270mhz !!! Not sure what the problem is, I reinstalled the driver mutiple times, looked at the clockspeed with 4 other programs with the same result (all displayed those same numbers). Couldn't find any help so I came here.

Athlon X2 3600 Brisbane
Corsair XMS DDR2 6400
Viper X1650 PRO

 

[MetaDFF]

Did you try checking the clock speeds with GPU-Z?

 

[Sylvanas]

It's probably the 2D clock speeds, perfectly normal.

 

[AspireApex]

Yes, I just used GPU-Z and it shows a CLock speed of 500 and Memory Speed of 570 for the Gpu CLock which is closer to normal. However, it should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 600/800. 600 Core and 800 Mhz memory. Any more ideas?

 

[SorryImLate]

Originally posted by: AspireApex
Yes, I just used GPU-Z and it shows a CLock speed of 500 and Memory Speed of 570 for the Gpu CLock which is closer to normal. However, it should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 600/800. 600 Core and 800 Mhz memory. Any more ideas?

Someone was on break when they made your card

 

[waffleironhead]

I thought the x1650pro was 600/700 core/memory

link to the model you bought?

 

[AspireApex]

http://www.buy.com/prod/diamon...loc/101/204105916.html

 

[MetaDFF]

Originally posted by: AspireApex
Yes, I just used GPU-Z and it shows a CLock speed of 500 and Memory Speed of 570 for the Gpu CLock which is closer to normal. However, it should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 600/800. 600 Core and 800 Mhz memory. Any more ideas?

You might be seeing your 2D clock speeds. Videocards have a lower 2D graphics speed to save power / reduce heat.

Try running ATITool and scan for artifacts. While that is happening run GPU-Z. ATITool's artifact scanner should trigger your video card to run in 3D performance mode thus increase the clock speed to the full 600/800 MHz clock speed.

 

[Sylvanas]

Or you can check your clockspeeds in Rivatuner using the hardware monitor- run a game with this on in the background.

 

[AspireApex]

yep used both methods as you guys mentioned. Comes up as 500 core speed and 540 Memory Speed. Thanks for the ideas? no more? i may just have to RMA it.

 

[BlueAcolyte]

overclock it yourself?

 

[deadken]

Originally posted by: AspireApex
yep used both methods as you guys mentioned. Comes up as 500 core speed and 540 Memory Speed. Thanks for the ideas? no more? i may just have to RMA it.

I have the EXACT same problem as you. The box says 600Mhz core and the website says 800Mhz for the memory if it is DDR2 card and 1500Mhz for the memory if it is a DDR3 card. My card runs at 500Mhz Core and 540Mhz Memory (seems to be 270Mhz DDR).

I ran ATI tray tools and graphed the core and memory speeds while running 3DMark03 and the speeds DID NOT increase. I contacted Diamond and got a moron for a tech. Eventually I got an answer that I can RMA my card. For what it is worth, the Tech does not know why there were 2 different speeds listed for the memory. He wouldn't tell me what speeds the new card would run at. He'd only say that 'we'll check it before we send it out'.

I am currently looking for a cheap PCI-e card so I don't have to be without a PC for my son (2 week turn-around). I see a 6200LE card for about $12 A.M.I.R. (shipped) in the hot deals section but I am gonna ask around to see if a 256MB X1050 card is any better (less then $20 A.M.I.R. shipped). I'll post that in the hot deals section if it does end up being a better performer. It seems that the X1050 has a 128-bit Memory bus while the 6200LE only has a 64-bit Memory bus, so I am thinking it'd perform a bit better.

 

[MetaDFF]

I just wonder if the programs are incorrectly reporting the clock speeds. I'm just speculating, but maybe the way DiamondMM implemented the X1650 board causes it to incorrectly report the clock speeds, even though the internal core speeds are correct.

This is a long shot, but have you guys tried comparing your 3DMark graphics results of your X1650 with the benchmarks of the X1650 that review websites have posted online? If the Shader Model 2.0 / 3.0 and Fill Rate results are similar, I think it's safe to assume the card is operating at the normal advertised clock speeds. A 100 MHz core speed difference and 540 MHz memory clock should make a huge difference in those benchmarks. Of course, this is a long shot...

 

[AspireApex]

yeah I JUST ran 3dmark 06 with my 5000+ AMD X2. Actually this was the first indication that there was problem with the card. It came out to be around 1600, WAY below the websites. I'm RMAing the card to see if another card will work. Hpefully Deadken, this is just that we had bad luck not that these cards are faulty as a whole.

 

[AspireApex]

oh btw deadken what kind of MOBO u have? Trying to figure out if it's our own hardware.

 

[zhudavy]

I have the exact same problem here. My mobo is ECS GeForce6100SM-M2, the PCIEx16 bus is running at x8 mode on this mobo, but it shouldn't affect GPU clock, and the performance should be just a little bit slower(less than 10% according to some tests). I don't know if it has something to do with the PSU though. My PSU is 480W and has total 30A on 12V rail, but the power requirement of this video is 550W(38A on 12V rail) on the package box although it says 420W on their website. What kind of PSUs do you guys have?

 

[AspireApex]

hrmm I'm beginning to think the problem lies with our motherboards.....I have the 6100SM-M2 as well. I have a 400W power supply but from what I've heard it's more than adequate for this kind of GPU. I'm not sure if there's an issue with the MOBO with the card but it sure seems like it.

 

[MetaDFF]

Maybe it has something to do with the 8x lanes that the ECS motherboard provides to the video card. A quick way to test that would be just to swap the X1650 into a computer with a full x16 PCIE slot and see if it reads the correct GPU speeds.

It sounds like deadken has a second computer and could quickly do this test...

 

[deadken]

Oops, Sorry for the delay. I got sidetracked pretty far.

Anyway, I am using it in my sons MSI K8N Neo 3-F motherboard. It's a Socket 754 Motherboard with a 16x PCI-e slot and a AGR slot (PCI based AGP slot). I have already removed the Card from his case a week or so ago. I just got my RMA number at the end of last week and am sending the card out today.

I have only used that card in that PC and it is already boxed up. Since it is a 16x PCI-e slot, I think your question has already been answered though.

I came back across this thread while looking to see if anyone had a thread about X1650 cards changing their speeds while in 3D applications regardless of brand or model. Some have said that the X1650's don't change speeds.

I am off to the Post Office at the moment! Time to send this back. I just want a card that does 600/800. If they send me a card that does 600/1500 (GDDR3) then so much the better. I doubt that will happen, but since the tech there didn't know why there was a difference in the speeds listed on DiamondMM's own website. Apparently, they do make a GDDR3 version, they just never bothered to list the specs for the 'other' GDDR2 card they apparently make.

 

[zhudavy]

Did any of you get the right card from Diamond?

 

[deadken]

Yup, I did get a card that runs at 600/800 (400x2) back from my RMA. Unfortunately, this card doesn't overclock very at all. On the previous card, the memory wouldn't BUDGE above 540 (270x2) Mhz, but the core on that card would FLY (well over 700 Mhz, IIRC)! On the 'new' card I got back from RMA does 600Mhz, but not much more. I really hate to say it, but it ends up that the original card overclocked performs better then this one overclocked.

It really isn't a big deal, but I figured that I would mention it. I should also say that this 'new' card has a rather crappy smaller (and noisier IIRC) fan + heatsink on it. I should also mention that the card that I bought had specs that said 600 core / 800 memory and 256MB of ram. The card I got in the box was 500/570 512mb. I was a bit concerned that they would send me a 256mb card (not that it would make a huge difference for my needs), but they didn't, the replacement card was also a 512mb.

The sad part is that this card sits on top of my desk hutch. I replaced my sons card with a 256mb 8600GT that smacks this X1650 Pro pretty badly. I was fortunate that I got the 8600GT for $41 out the door at Best Buy during clearance (fortunate because BB seems to price their clearance items differently in different stores and I was LUCKY that a manager gave it to me for the same price a nearby store had it clearance for (of course, all stores with the good prices were out of stock)).

The funny part is that I logged on today just to post in the Hot Deals sections (where I had posted about this X1650 Pro) that I FINALLY got back my $20 rebate! I bought this card on Jan. 3rd. I got my rebate on June 20th. Hmmm, how completely lame Diamond Multimedia is. By the way, it was also kinda funny that I got a PM that said "Did you get the right card back?" today. Zhudavy, it might be a good idea to mention a bit more information when you are asking a guy about a post he made just over FOUR MONTHS AGO! No harm done since it only took me about 5 minutes to figure out what the heck you were talking about, but I almost just deleted your PM since I didn't know what you meant when I first read it and there was no 'message history' between us.

 

[zhudavy]

Sorry, my bad. I just RMAed the card a few days ago, and paid $9 dollar for handling and shipping, argh! Probably I should just have sticked with the old one. Fortunately, I got my $20 rebate about a week ago as well. It looks like I should visit Best Buy often to pick up some unadvertised clearance items, thanks for the tips!