Gov't insurance would allow coverage for abortion

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: ElFenix
if we're going to be paying for it anyway we might as well pay for it when it costs less than later.

yes, i'm a cold bastard.

The OP is the kind of person who doesnt give a shit about someone once they are out of the womb. He doesnt plan on spending a dime to help those people. He is perfectly happy with millions of Americans freezing to death in the streets or slaughtering each other to stay alive, just so long as he can't see it from his kitchen window.
I notice thats common among folks who have are so-called "pro life".

Not that I care about the OP in the least... but I'd like to congratulate you on your amazing straw man argument. Simply exquisite.

Hold on, I have a bullshit default response for your bullshit default response. Lemme see if I can go find it.
BRB

EDIT:
I cant find it. Did a search for strawman and got 800,000 results. Perhaps if the term werent tossed around constantly I could have found the argument I was looking for. Wish I could remember who posted it first.

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan

Originally posted by: senseamp
Have to cover it or it would be rationing. Free abortions for everyone > rationing.

What makes you think that UHC would involve any less rationing that what we see with insurance providers today?

My guess is that rationing would get worse and worse each year as the costs of UHC skyrocket exponentially.

The goal, for some of us, is to get rid of rationing altogether.

Then how can you advocate only rationing abortions to cases of rape and incest?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Atreus21
Why the third trimester?

because thats when god gives them a soul duh. We have high speed cameras that film the soul being placed inside the fetus.

Do you have a serious answer?

Oh yes. Time to make poor and pregnant NOT such a natural pairing. The main cause of women in need of services is pregnancy.

 

[cliftonite]

Good.

 

[miniMUNCH]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: ElFenix
if we're going to be paying for it anyway we might as well pay for it when it costs less than later.

yes, i'm a cold bastard.

The OP is the kind of person who doesnt give a shit about someone once they are out of the womb. He doesnt plan on spending a dime to help those people. He is perfectly happy with millions of Americans freezing to death in the streets or slaughtering each other to stay alive, just so long as he can't see it from his kitchen window.
I notice thats common among folks who have are so-called "pro life".

Not that I care about the OP in the least... but I'd like to congratulate you on your amazing straw man argument. Simply exquisite.

Hold on, I have a bullshit default response for your bullshit default response. Lemme see if I can go find it.
BRB

EDIT:
I cant find it. Did a search for strawman and got 800,000 results. Perhaps if the term werent tossed around constantly I could have found the argument I was looking for. Wish I could remember who posted it first.

Lol. So are you saying that didn't use a straw man argument, then?

Look at what you did. OP basically said, I don't care if people get abortions or not but I don't want tax dollars paying for the abortion." You basically constructed a false persona of him out of thin air based on him being pro life and glorying in all the needless death in the world as long as he doesn't have to deal with it. You completely twisted his stance on the matter and what he said and tore that straw stance apart --> straw man.

Truth hurts sometimes... sorry bro! have a beer:beer:

 

[Dragula22]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Exactly. The only people against this are trying to push their "moral" views on others.

Abortions are ALWAYS cheaper than kids for the system.

i like how an honest ethical conundrum ends up in quotes as if abortion is at the level of passing a kidney stone.

Is it that hard to keep your nose out of other peoples business?

If the government provides it (and we know that it is cheaper to not have a kid than to have a kid) it is a good financial move as well.

The same argument can be made for killing the elderly and infirm...

Just shooting a kid up with a lethal injection is cheaper than paying for their cancer treatment.

My point is we should NOT be debating this based upon the perceived financial benefit to the system and tax payer. Because once we ensconce ourselves in that mindset we are in danger of falling down a dangerous slippery slope.

Look, we're not saying, "Hey you! It's cheaper to get an abortion so do it!" We're making the choice available. This choice happens to be the cheapest option for the system.

The choice of ending ones life early SHOULD IMO be also given to the elderly who can't take care of themselves and has barely any quality of life. It should never be forced, but I see NOTHING wrong with having the option.

More choices is never a bad thing, especially if these choices make sense for the taxpayer.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: OCguy
I dont see a problem with this. You should get one "oops", and then the 2nd comes with a free sterilization.

+1 - best idea ever! . I would only add that the 2nd one comes with a mandatory free sterilization.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
if we're going to be paying for it anyway we might as well pay for it when it costs less than later.


yes, i'm a cold bastard.

Exactly.

It's cheaper than the welfare costs....

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: ElFenix
if we're going to be paying for it anyway we might as well pay for it when it costs less than later.

yes, i'm a cold bastard.

The OP is the kind of person who doesnt give a shit about someone once they are out of the womb. He doesnt plan on spending a dime to help those people. He is perfectly happy with millions of Americans freezing to death in the streets or slaughtering each other to stay alive, just so long as he can't see it from his kitchen window.
I notice thats common among folks who have are so-called "pro life".

Not that I care about the OP in the least... but I'd like to congratulate you on your amazing straw man argument. Simply exquisite.

Hold on, I have a bullshit default response for your bullshit default response. Lemme see if I can go find it.
BRB

EDIT:
I cant find it. Did a search for strawman and got 800,000 results. Perhaps if the term werent tossed around constantly I could have found the argument I was looking for. Wish I could remember who posted it first.

Lol. So are you saying that didn't use a straw man argument, then?

Look at what you did. OP basically said, I don't care if people get abortions or not but I don't want tax dollars paying for the abortion." You basically constructed a false persona of him out of thin air based on him being pro life and glorying in all the needless death in the world as long as he doesn't have to deal with it. You completely twisted his stance on the matter and what he said and tore that straw stance apart --> straw man.

Truth hurts sometimes... sorry bro! have a beer:beer:

Really? Thats funny because every time I bother to make a logical, thoughtful argument in P&N people use exactly those tactics against me. Every single time.
So from now on I should just say "STRAW MAN!" and move along?