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Government waste Galore; Govt giving smartphones to immigrants caught at the border

OutHouse said:
seriously wtf? Giving free phones, housing, food, transportation to illegals while our own citizens are living in the streets? :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-0211-immigrant-iphones-20160211-story.html
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You're a raving pissant trying to make a mountain out of a tiny pile of sand-

GEO Care has handed out 25 phones to immigrant families since last month, half of the 50 they plan to dispense, officials said.
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Haters gotta hate.
 
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Jhhnn said:
You're a raving pissant trying to make a mountain out of a tiny pile of sand-

GEO Care has handed out 25 phones to immigrant families since last month, half of the 50 they plan to dispense, officials said.
Haters gotta hate.
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oh, its you. 🙄 i know you are stupid as shit but damn dude just make a little effort to improve yourself.


11 million for 50 phones? damn that one expensive cell phone.
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OutHouse said:
Jhhnn said:
You're a raving pissant trying to make a mountain out of a tiny pile of sand-

GEO Care has handed out 25 phones to immigrant families since last month, half of the 50 they plan to dispense, officials said.


oh, its you. 🙄 i know you are stupid as shit but damn dude just make a little effort to improve yourself.


11 million for 50 phones? damn that one expensive cell phone.
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And the double down. The $11M contract *obviously* includes more than smartphones.
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Jhhnn said:
OutHouse said:
Jhhnn said:
You're a raving pissant trying to make a mountain out of a tiny pile of sand-



And the double down. The $11M contract *obviously* includes more than smartphones.
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you mean things like, free food, free housing, free transportation, free medical, free spending money?

I mentioned these things in my OP or are you just selective reading again? go watch sesame street, Elmo has a special message for you.
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OutHouse said:
Jhhnn said:
OutHouse said:
you mean things like, free food, free housing, free transportation, free medical, free spending money?

I mentioned these things in my OP or are you just selective reading again? go watch sesame street, Elmo has a special message for you.
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The alternative to following normal immigration procedures of detentions & hearings is what, exactly?

The law is what it is until Congress votes to change it. That obviously won't happen so long as Repubs can exploit the situation to call up the raving idiots.
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I really don't have much of a problem with this and i'm anti-illegal immigrant.

The new smartphones are free, yet immigrant advocates worry they may be used to secretly monitor the users.

yeah? i hope they are monitoring them. shrug if they are here for what they claim and staying where they claim.

The idea behind giving it to them is sound. let them stay in contact with the courts and family.
 
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waggy said:
I really don't have much of a problem with this and i'm anti-illegal immigrant.

The new smartphones are free, yet immigrant advocates worry they may be used to secretly monitor the users.

yeah? i hope they are monitoring them. shrug if they are here for what they claim and staying where they claim.

The idea behind giving it to them is sound. let them stay in contact with the courts and family.
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not sure why its the governments job to do this. well i guess its not unless you break the law and come into the US illegally.
 
OutHouse said:
not sure why its the governments job to do this. well i guess its not unless you break the law and come into the US illegally.
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shrug. it's a minor issue. the cost ain't that high for 50 phones.

over the course of the cost illegal immigrants are this is nothing.
 
waggy said:
shrug. it's a minor issue. the cost ain't that high for 50 phones.

over the course of the cost illegal immigrants are this is nothing.
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fine, do it for everybody. single payer government cell plan!! oh yea free food and housing too!
 
It's a new Benghazi and Fast & Furious, all rolled up into one scandal!

Obama is going down for this one, y'all!!!1
 
OutHouse said:
fine, do it for everybody. single payer government cell plan!! oh yea free food and housing too!
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Hopefully the phones will be used to call other illegal immigrants so the NSA can triangulate their location and deport several thousand more beyond this 50 or whatever.
 
"They told me I was selected because I have small children and for my case, because I was a victim of domestic violence," Guevara said. "I was surprised because I thought I would get ankle monitors."

Guevara, 29, worked selling food from her home in northern El Salvador, but fled what she described as abuse at the hands of her husband in October. She left without a cellphone, attempting to reunite with her two older brothers in San Fernando.
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It is a pilot project to see if they can keep the people in contact better than simply letting them roam free without a way to contact the courts or their legal advisers. The phones are loaned to them, not given. This is really no different than an ankle monitor except you can play games on it.

If you read the above, maybe you'll have tiny bit of empathy for this lady. She was chosen because she was beaten by her spouse. She has two small kids and was trying to get to family here in the states for what seems to be protection. She has a history of being employed.

I believe we need decent immigration laws, but I also empathize with the lady. I would have done the same thing in her position, so it is hard to fault her. These are situations where life can't be perfectly segmented and compartmentalized in your head. There are strict rules and then there are real world situations where people are suffering. We can't help everyone, I know, but it doesn't make it any less easy to turn a blind eye.
 
Subyman said:
It is a pilot project to see if they can keep the people in contact better than simply letting them roam free without a way to contact the courts or their legal advisers. The phones are loaned to them, not given. This is really no different than an ankle monitor except you can play games on it.

If you read the above, maybe you'll have tiny bit of empathy for this lady. She was chosen because she was beaten by her spouse. She has two small kids and was trying to get to family here in the states for what seems to be protection. She has a history of being employed.

I believe we need decent immigration laws, but I also empathize with the lady. I would have done the same thing in her position, so it is hard to fault her. These are situations where life can't be perfectly segmented and compartmentalized in your head. There are strict rules and then there are real world situations where people are suffering. We can't help everyone, I know, but it doesn't make it any less easy to turn a blind eye.
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Empathy isn't the same as saying we should not deport her. People like my father-in-law waited for years to immigrate legally and his issues were just as daunting as hers. We ought to raise legal immigration quotas and deport 100% of people who are illegal with no exceptions whatsoever. I wouldn't even allow them refugee status if they enter illegally.
 
glenn1 said:
Empathy isn't the same as saying we should not deport her. People like my father-in-law waited for years to immigrate legally and his issues were just as daunting as hers. We ought to raise legal immigration quotas and deport 100% of people who are illegal with no exceptions whatsoever. I wouldn't even allow them refugee status if they enter illegally.
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i agree.


Raise legal immigration by a lot and start departing those that come here illegally.
 
glenn1 said:
Empathy isn't the same as saying we should not deport her. People like my father-in-law waited for years to immigrate legally and his issues were just as daunting as hers. We ought to raise legal immigration quotas and deport 100% of people who are illegal with no exceptions whatsoever. I wouldn't even allow them refugee status if they enter illegally.
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About 400,000 people are deported each year. They have to go through a legal process. Some simply do not show up and warrants are issued. They sometimes fade away into society. This program is trying to reduce those chances with experiments like the one in the OP. I'm not saying we shouldn't deport her, I'm saying it is a hard issue and I have a hard time taking a stance one way or the other.
 
They come here and tax your ass $15k right off the bat to pop out their kids here so they can secure their place at the lifelong welfare feeding trough to the tune of $200,000... and you are worried about cell phones?
 
Does the article say what kind of smartphones were given out?

I wouldn't be so quick to accuse the government for wasteful adventure considering how cheap and ubiquitous some smartphones are.
 
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