Government programs will account for >50% of U.S. health-care costs next year

[ElFenix]

Yes, they are an important measure but only when you look at them as a whole - not when hand picking specific points to mislead.

you mean such as infant death rate and life expectancy (neither of which is a medical outcome)

 

[Robor]

Wrong. It's interpreting the Constitution as it was MEANT to be interpreted: as it was written, litterally.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the biggest complaints about health insurance right now is that they do not operate beyond state boarders. That to me, right there, is acknowledgement that the Commerce Clause does not apply. Of course, if you losely interpret the Constitution, it's easy to make the Commerce Clause applicable to ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. Hell, I can make it applicable to taking a bus to get across town if I want to.

That said, it is not the government's job to TAKE CARE of the populace. It is the government's job to make sure that no one else impinges on the rights of the populace to take care of themselves. That is what the quoted portion of the Constitution says.

LOL... You mean interpreted as YOU want it. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

 

[dullard]

Edit, double post.

 

[dullard]

Wrong. It's interpreting the Constitution as it was MEANT to be interpreted: as it was written, litterally.

Ah, so the air force is unconstitutional then? It clearly says we can have an army and navy. But since the air force isn't litterally in the constitution, then it MUST be illegal under your interpretation method.

Or, we could use common sense and realize the constitution should be interpretted with current technology and practices. The airplane wasn't invented in the 1700s (neither really was health care or insurance). Both topics can be interpretted to be in the constitution though if you expand the definition of its words to include modern day realities. Expand any place where Army or Navy is used to include Air Force / Coast Guard / Marines. Expand any place where general welfare is used to include health.

 

[Robor]

you mean such as infant death rate and life expectancy (neither of which is a medical outcome)

I was referring to specific cancer survival rates.

 

[ElFenix]

I was referring to specific cancer survival rates.

and i was pointing out that two common measures used to criticize the US medical system are hand picked to mislead.

 

[woolfe9999]

Reality check: Medicare is not going away. It is here to stay. There is *zero* support in *either* political party to get rid of Medicare. Hence, arguing the point that we shouldn't have Medicare means you are residing in political la-la land. Let's be grown-ups and talk about real world problems and real world solutions.

In the real world, the problem with Medicare is the drain it is putting on our federal budget. It is far and away the largest factor in the mid to long term budget crisis. So I put the question again: which republicans have clearly supported making reasonable cuts to Medicare benefits to get this under control? I'd really like to know. Seriously, I might even donate to that person's campaign.

- wolf

 

[soulcougher73]

Reality check: Medicare is not going away. It is here to stay. There is *zero* support in *either* political party to get rid of Medicare. Hence, arguing the point that we shouldn't have Medicare means you are residing in political la-la land. Let's be grown-ups and talk about real world problems and real world solutions.

In the real world, the problem with Medicare is the drain it is putting on our federal budget. It is far and away the largest factor in the mid to long term budget crisis. So I put the question again: which republicans have clearly supported making reasonable cuts to Medicare benefits to get this under control? I'd really like to know. Seriously, I might even donate to that person's campaign.

- wolf

If we had UHC it would go away. It would be a redundant program that isnt needed. Same goes for Medicad as well.

 

[woolfe9999]

If we had UHC it would go away. It would be a redundant program that isnt needed. Same goes for Medicad as well.

If by UHC you mean single payor, then yes, that is correct.

- wolf

 

[lsd]

I've made my UHC views known around here. Get businesses' grubby little hands out of it. I'm sorry but the biggest decision regarding my health should NOT be made by my companies incompetant managers and HR negotiators. .

BUT BUT BUT BUT TEH DEATH PANALS!
Haven't you heard? Teh goverment will kill grandma

 

[piasabird]

Maybe if the government does not like your views, you will not receive any healthcare.

There is a reason why civilians are allowed to own guns, it is to keep the government from taking too much power. Why do people want the government to rule every aspect of our lives? It is so they can take over everything.