Government burning and Soviet Agent is POTUS. Lindsey Graham : Buttermails !!

cytg111

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That is god damned pathetic.. and stupid.

https://www.salon.com/2019/01/23/li...hillarys-emails-democrats-burst-out-laughing/

What I dont get, with the whoooole email thing "russia if you are listening...", wikileaks, trump tower, sanctions, corruption, collusion, conspiracy, treason ... And he wants to poke at the email server that startet the whole landslide? Do he not understand the avalanche is going to bury him and co ... and leave HR standing? Selfownage at its best.
 

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Honestly I think Congress should start impeachment on some of its own. I know they don't want to make it look like all of government is actively burning, but you don't have to look to far to see the flames already. If there is real threat of action against people propping Trump up and trying to undermine the special counsel, they might get the idea they're going down with the ship and slow down the obstruction.
 

hal2kilo

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Honestly I think Congress should start impeachment on some of its own. I know they don't want to make it look like all of government is actively burning, but you don't have to look to far to see the flames already. If there is real threat of action against people propping Trump up and trying to undermine the special counsel, they might get the idea they're going down with the ship and slow down the obstruction.
Nunes first!
 
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woolfe9998

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For crissakes, I wish I could unread things like this:

Something else happened there in 2010, a portentous development for dissident Republicans everywhere. The rino hunt bagged a congressman named Bob Inglis. Inglis was a reliable rightist—a 93 percent lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union, a 100 percent rating from the Christian Coalition—and he’d represented his district for 12 years. But at a public event, early in what proved to be his final year, he was asked whether he believed humans caused climate change. He made the mistake of committing candor. He said yes, humans cause climate change. The crowd booed and hissed; as Inglis later recalled, “I was blasted out.” He was subsequently slaughtered in a Republican primary—71 to 29 percent—by a more conservative challenger named Trey Gowdy. The lesson of Inglis’s defeat was that any deviance from ideological fealty could kill a career.

Voted out for telling the truth about climate change.
 
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For crissakes, I wish I could unread things like this:



Voted out for telling the truth about climate change.

Scary. And you know what, we've got tons of people enabling that behavior.

There's a YouTube channel called Smarter Every Day. He's openly conservative (on its own pretty mindblowing considering his science background, but he's from Alabama and devoutly Christian which I'm sure supercedes even science in his beliefs). When Obama was President he was picked to be part of some showcase I believe of YouTube and positive aspects of social media (they picked him due to his work making science accessible and interesting for people of all ages). He said he'd been surprised and openly touted his differing political views as a reason he didn't expect Democrats to have much interest in highlighting someone like him, but was impressed with Obama's genuine interest in science and it reaching people and said how he saw it as a bridge between ideologies (although I'm not sure if he realized how him and Obama were likely closer in ideology than he'd care to admit; Obama being a Christian that initially touted marraige as between a woman and man).

When Turmp took over, he got some grant or something I believe, and was at some event for it, where he chummed it up with I think Kushner and Ivana and made this very excited video about it. The event was touting helping women in science. The comments on the video were overwhelmed with right wingers raging about him enabling liberal feminist agenda and that he's evil and anti-science.

I haven't kept up with him so I don't know if he ever addressed that stuff or not. But I hope it opened his eyes to the mentality and ideology of modern conservatives and how its been co-opted by very toxic elements. I'd also be curious what his view of the Turmp's are these days. I'd guess he's ignored it and just focuses on the aspects he likes.
 

zinfamous

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For crissakes, I wish I could unread things like this:



Voted out for telling the truth about climate change.

good lord...primaried by the human twizzler that is Trey Gowdy. That has to sting.

lol. I had no idea that this is why Trey Goudy was dumped on the American Public. This guy is fucking cancer...like basically everything from SC. seriously.
 

trenchfoot

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that sounds like an easy challenge for that dude.....

Some folks have a natural talent for that (politically speaking) and some folks learn it by nefariously inspired rote.

Lindsay is one of those exceptional politicians that have the benefit of having both merit badges sewn on his official Trump approved MAGA cap. ;)
 

sportage

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I AGREE WITH IMPEACHING CONGRESS....
I was wondering if that was possible?
If Mueller proves Trump worked with the Soviets in collusion, and this republican congress stood by and did nothing including trying to block any investigation, then is all of that not proof this republican congress were and still are co-conspirators?
Wouldn't it be great to see the FBI and the secret service march into the chamber and arrest ALL OF THEM? All of those Trump loyalist in congress?
And watch as one by one they are hauled off in handcuffs by authorities into awaiting FBI vans?
I mean really....
THAT should be exactly how this is suppose to work in America.
And it should have already taken place.
Hell, the day Mitch McConnell blocked Obama from his US Supreme Court nominee, they all should have been arrested and tossed in jail for tampering with the US constitution.
 

fskimospy

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For crissakes, I wish I could unread things like this:

Voted out for telling the truth about climate change.

And this points to the true issue. Impeaching and removing people like Graham won’t solve the issue. The voters are the problem, not the politicians. They are the ones who have gone insane.
 

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And this points to the true issue. Impeaching and removing people like Graham won’t solve the issue. The voters are the problem, not the politicians. They are the ones who have gone insane.

I disagree. Our elected representatives can in fact use the authority we imbue them with to hold their members accountable on our behalf. It's part of how a republic functions. If voters are at fault, they are at fault also for electing those who take insufficient action in their oversight duties.
 
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fskimospy

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I disagree. Our elected representatives can in fact use the authority we imbue them with to hold their members accountable on our behalf. It's part of how a republic functions. If voters are at fault, they are at fault also for electing those who take insufficient action in their oversight duties.

Well sure, but the people you impeach will just be replaced by more like the ones you just removed. Furthermore, the Republicans who voted to impeach them will be primaried and removed by the voters for their trouble.

What’s the saying? In a democracy you get exactly the government you deserve.
 
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Well sure, but the people you impeach will just be replaced by more like the ones you just removed. Furthermore, the Republicans who voted to impeach them will be primaried and removed by the voters for their trouble.

What’s the saying? In a democracy you get exactly the government you deserve.

Reminds me of the quote "every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets".

But your prediction is one possible outcome. One that leaves us right where we left off. I don't think it's the likely outcome, but if you can imagine better might be possible, what's so bad about trying?
 

fskimospy

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Reminds me of the quote "every system is perfectly designed to get the results it gets".

But your prediction is one possible outcome. One that leaves us right where we left off. I don't think it's the likely outcome, but if you can imagine better might be possible, what's so bad about trying?

I think it’s by far the most likely outcome. As woolfe mentioned Republicans are ousted from their seats simply for admitting that climate change exists. Can you imagine the backlash from attacking one of their own who was just trying to get to the truth about Crooked Hillary? Goodbye.

I get your point though, that men of principle should take their office seriously and try and remove these cancers even if they do eventually lose their seats. I think that through both direct (primary) and indirect (can’t put up with the bullshit) means the Republican Party has purged itself of most people who think that way.

It’s an interesting byproduct of the parties and their elites becoming much more accountable to their voters in the last 40-50 years and effectively losing control. Back in the days of the smoke filled room there was a lot of interparty investment in the system and achieving good results for it. Now it’s about pleasing their party voters even if what the voters want is insane or destructive.
 
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