Government air travel.

[Mr Pickles]

What do you think about government having a public airline service? There are so many government controls on it as it is that they might as well have their own service. They already take care of our rails and have done so for years and years. They have a postal service. I just think with all of the crazy ups and downs the airline industry has it might be a practical idea. What's your take?

 

[Epic Fail]

This will be Hell's Hell, let's forget you didn't suggest this.

 

[Farang]

No, I don't have a problem with private airlines prices or service. In this system the people who don't know how to shop overpay and allow me to get dirt cheap prices.

 

[K1052]

That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom.

Yes, this is horrible, this idea.

 

[TruePaige]

This is when you go to a hell so hot you freeze.

 

[everman]

It looks like everyone is opposed to the idea comrade.

 

[BoomerD]

The concept of Government airlines just brings to the front the idea that government employees travel TOO much on the public's dime...

This does NOT apply to military personel traveling on the way to deployments however...just employees of various agencies and of course, those who REALLY pig-out at the public trough...our members of Congress...

 

[Mr Pickles]

I understand people have a bad tatste in their mouth regarding public services from the government, but I'd like to view this from an economical perspective. I think the prices would not fluctuate as much, the competition would be less cut throat because of the stability, and service would be more trustworthy\dependable.

 

[Throckmorton]

The government doesn't operate the rails.

 

[everman]

Originally posted by: MrLee
I think the prices would not fluctuate as much, the competition would be less cut throat because of the stability, and service would be more trustworthy\dependable.

Why? A gov subsidized airline can compete with lower prices because they can just take more tax revenue from the people to offset losses, making them more competitive pricewise.
Dependability of service would not be better, commercial carriers do their best as it is but some things like weather is unpredictable.
I don't see Trustworthiness as an issue, except with the TSA which is gov run.

What are your reasons for your conclusions?

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: MrLee
I understand people have a bad tatste in their mouth regarding public services from the government, but I'd like to view this from an economical perspective. I think the prices would not fluctuate as much, the competition would be less cut throat because of the stability, and service would be more trustworthy\dependable.

For the airline to be economical, the planes would have to operate at max capacity...and I REALLY don't want to see that many government employees traveling on my dime.

 

[E equals MC2]

Originally posted by: MrLee
and service would be more trustworthy\dependable.

LOL! Thanks for the laugh. ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY MAD? It'll be like DMV/RMV from HELL at the airport.

Lack of competition means lack of incentives to be courteous to win you over = that kind of shitty ass low-life service you get at DMV. I freakin' hate going there whenever I have to renew my license.

Now if this became the same for the airline industry, I'll go ahead and kill myself now.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: MrLee
I understand people have a bad tatste in their mouth regarding public services from the government, but I'd like to view this from an economical perspective. I think the prices would not fluctuate as much, the competition would be less cut throat because of the stability, and service would be more trustworthy\dependable.

For the airline to be economical, the planes would have to operate at max capacity...and I REALLY don't want to see that many government employees traveling on my dime.

what are you talking about government employees? I'm not talking about a government run airline for government employees i'm talking about an airline for everyone...

 

[BoomerD]

ah, OK...gotcha. Get ready for airport security in your chonies...where everyone has to strip down to their underwear just to get through the checkpoints...When you look at the horrible inefficiency of government agencies already in service, one can only shudder at how bad a government-run airline would be...

 

[rgwalt]

If the gov starts running the airlines, they will likely not undercut private companies because they won't want to styme free enterprise and competition. That beings said, a gov airline could put everyone out of business if they wanted to.

If the gov takes over the airlines, I'll drive from now on.

R

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
ah, OK...gotcha. Get ready for airport security in your chonies...where everyone has to strip down to their underwear just to get through the checkpoints...When you look at the horrible inefficiency of government agencies already in service, one can only shudder at how bad a government-run airline would be...

The security regulations that airlines follow right now are set by the government as is. It's not like they would be more strict then a normal airline.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: rgwalt
If the gov starts running the airlines, they will likely not undercut private companies because they won't want to styme free enterprise and competition. That beings said, a gov airline could put everyone out of business if they wanted to.

If the gov takes over the airlines, I'll drive from now on.

R

Everyone out of business? As in the government airline is controlled by robots and would not need people to run it like other airlines?

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: rgwalt
If the gov starts running the airlines, they will likely not undercut private companies because they won't want to styme free enterprise and competition. That beings said, a gov airline could put everyone out of business if they wanted to.

If the gov takes over the airlines, I'll drive from now on.

R

Everyone out of business? As in the government airline is controlled by robots and would not need people to run it like other airlines?

Government can funnel tax money to fund its airline.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: yamadakun

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: rgwalt
If the gov starts running the airlines, they will likely not undercut private companies because they won't want to styme free enterprise and competition. That beings said, a gov airline could put everyone out of business if they wanted to.

If the gov takes over the airlines, I'll drive from now on.

R

Everyone out of business? As in the government airline is controlled by robots and would not need people to run it like other airlines?

Government can funnel tax money to fund its airline.

I have a belly button. Your reply had nothing to do with what you quoted. Yes, though, government can funnel tax money to fund its airline. Just like airlines can raise prices to fund themselves.

 

[Mermaidman]

Aren't some of the top airlines owned by foreign governments? I'm thinking Thai, or Singapore.

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: yamadakun

Originally posted by: MrLee

Originally posted by: rgwalt
If the gov starts running the airlines, they will likely not undercut private companies because they won't want to styme free enterprise and competition. That beings said, a gov airline could put everyone out of business if they wanted to.

If the gov takes over the airlines, I'll drive from now on.

R

Everyone out of business? As in the government airline is controlled by robots and would not need people to run it like other airlines?

Government can funnel tax money to fund its airline.

I have a belly button. Your reply had nothing to do with what you quoted. Yes, though, government can funnel tax money to fund its airline. Just like airlines can raise prices to fund themselves.

I have a belly button too. :roll:

If government wanted to funnel tax money and lose money to undercut private companies, private companies will be out of business.

Now please explain where you came up with robots???

 

[FoBoT]

no, it would cost too much
tickets from LA to NYC would be $1000+ for economy

 

[Mr Pickles]

He said put "everyone" out of business and I understood him as speaking about the people, not the businesses. But still, I don't think all of the businesses would die off, there would still be the alternatives. We have had so many mergers because of this issue as it is. So, to have a handful of major airlines like we have a handful of shipping companies would be best imo.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
no, it would cost too much
tickets from LA to NYC would be $1000+ for economy

lol you've concluded this through your research you've done?

 

[BHeemsoth]

No.

Just look at how expensive Amtrak is.