Gov. Christie's pension issue: N.J. probe looks at running mate, double-dipping

Exterous

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I can't BELIEVE a Republican would be double dipping....I thought it was only the Democrats who wanted free entitlements?????

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http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_n...nj-probe-looks-at-running-mate-double-dipping

Nah - Democrats are just much better at gaming the system for free entitlements :p

Democratic State Sen. Fred Madden is a "triple-dipper" who collects more than $241,000 a year from public coffers — $49,000 as a legislator, $106,983 as a police academy dean and an $85,272 pension as a State Police retiree.
 

Hacp

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Thanks Obama. If Ron Paul were president, he would have fired every one of those government workers and replaced them with someone cheaper.
 

cybrsage

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Republicans double dip all the time. The difference is the entitlements are not free, you have to work to get them. It is still the dems who want the entitlements without having to work to get them.
 

nageov3t

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I, for one, am stunned that politicians failed to end a practice that allowed themselves to collect 2-3 salaries while barely doing 1 job.
 

xBiffx

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Meh, from the looks of it, Christie has been okay with double dipping for a while now. :sneaky:
 

fskimospy

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Thanks Obama. If Ron Paul were president, he would have fired every one of those government workers and replaced them with someone cheaper.

It's true, Ron Paul would have somehow used federal powers to fire New Jersey's deputy chief of staff. He would also have probably fired his own chief of staff. Since Ron Paul's legislative legacy is one of complete ineffectiveness, he probably doesn't need staff anyway.
 

monovillage

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Great, they should retroactively make it illegal and then stop paying all public union retirees the greater of their pensions. I'd support it, but the OP sure wouldn't.
 

xBiffx

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Great, they should retroactively make it illegal and then stop paying all public union retirees the greater of their pensions. I'd support it, but the OP sure wouldn't.

Only if you weren't a "righty"......
 

the DRIZZLE

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Pension double dipping has been a huge problem in NJ for a long time now. I believe Christie has tried to fix some of the these issues over the past few years.
 

monovillage

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Give Christie long enough in office and he'll be able to put an end to some of the more egregious public union pension scandals.
Give Gov. Walker more time in Wis. and he'll do the same, that's why the unions are so pissed off.
 

Ausm

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Republicans double dip all the time. The difference is the entitlements are not free, you have to work to get them. It is still the dems who want the entitlements without having to work to get them.

When was my SS or Medicare free? I've been paying for them 30+ years but the assholes on the Right treat it like I am getting a freebie?
 

zsdersw

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Give Gov. Walker more time in Wis. and he'll do the same, that's why the unions are so pissed off.

The problem with what Walker did is that he didn't remove collective bargaining from all public unions. For some less-than-difficult-to-figure-out reason, he exempted police, firefighter, and state trooper unions from the changes.
 

monovillage

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The problem with what Walker did is that he didn't remove collective bargaining from all public unions. For some less-than-difficult-to-figure-out reason, he exempted police, firefighter, and state trooper unions from the changes.

Political reality met political opportunity. He had a chance to make some changes and he took it. Maybe in a few years he'll be able to extend them.
 

Ausm

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The problem with what Walker did is that he didn't remove collective bargaining from all public unions. For some less-than-difficult-to-figure-out reason, he exempted police, firefighter, and state trooper unions from the changes.

That's because they WERE backing him...notice the bolded word is in the past tense. ;)
 
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PokerGuy

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The problem with what Walker did is that he didn't remove collective bargaining from all public unions. For some less-than-difficult-to-figure-out reason, he exempted police, firefighter, and state trooper unions from the changes.

While I would have liked to see them removed from all public unions, the reality is that it wasn't going to happen. He took a step in the right direction, hopefully in the future the remaining steps can be taken.
 

zsdersw

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While I would have liked to see them removed from all public unions, the reality is that it wasn't going to happen. He took a step in the right direction, hopefully in the future the remaining steps can be taken.

Why not? If you're going to do it, do it right the first time.
 

Moonbeam

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While I would have liked to see them removed from all public unions, the reality is that it wasn't going to happen. He took a step in the right direction, hopefully in the future the remaining steps can be taken.

What we really need is a few steps more in that direction, everybody works for the state and all jobs pay nothing.