Gotta love those trial versions.

dds14u

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Does anyone know how a trial version tells when your 30 days or 21 day free trial period is over? I believe some trial versions actually stick something permanently on your computer just so that even if you re-download it it still knows that your 30 days is up. Well...I've used a lotta trial versions and I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to get rid of the permanent files it leaves on your computer (they're slowing my computer down)...registry and whatnot. Anyone got any insight?
 

dighn

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prepare to be flamed :D

they probably store some settings in the registry or some file on disk. you can't find out without th eproper tools that track program registry/file usage or going through the disassembled source.
 

Nebor

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Just go to Best Buy and steal the boxed copy of the software. Same difference.
 

dighn

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ok if you are gonna circumvent those protections, why not just use cracks?! same difference!
 

dds14u

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I think it's just pretty lame that they'd stick hidden files/registry changes on your computer without your knowing. What about those of us who don't get new computers every couple of years...they're ruining our hard drives...and not to mention greatly decreasing computer performance...something a novice computer user might not even realize.
 

dds14u

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Originally posted by: dighn
ok if you are gonna circumvent those protections, why not just use cracks?! same difference!

Ehh I'd rather not my head that way...and besides, not every single program has a crack. And no flame plz :D
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: dds14u
I think it's just pretty lame that they'd stick hidden files/registry changes on your computer without your knowing. What about those of us who don't get new computers every couple of years...they're ruining our hard drives...and not to mention greatly decreasing computer performance...something a novice computer user might not even realize.

registry scanners will remove the useless things that do affect performance, but they will not remove the hidden "flags" used for protection because the latter are different and should not affect performance by any measurable amount
 

dds14u

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Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: dds14u
I think it's just pretty lame that they'd stick hidden files/registry changes on your computer without your knowing. What about those of us who don't get new computers every couple of years...they're ruining our hard drives...and not to mention greatly decreasing computer performance...something a novice computer user might not even realize.

registry scanners will remove the useless things that do affect performance, but they will not remove the hidden "flags" used for protection because the latter are different and should not affect performance by any measurable amount

well...would "any measurable amount" x1000 be measurable? :confused: bumping in hopes someone has some real insight here...
 

Nebor

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The real insight is to give this up and PAY for your software before some of the meaner ATOTers get ahold of you.
 

dds14u

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Originally posted by: Nebor
The real insight is to give this up and PAY for your software before some of the meaner ATOTers get ahold of you.

It's really not the programs I'm interested as much as wanting to maybe fix my computer? and I really find it annoying that you'd assume that. This is something I'm curious about, a how-does-it-work curiosity.

And don't tell me to wipe my hard drive.
 

MAME

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I doubt they are slowing down your computer at all (at least, you'd never notice the difference)
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: dds14u
Originally posted by: Nebor
The real insight is to give this up and PAY for your software before some of the meaner ATOTers get ahold of you.

It's really not the programs I'm interested as much as wanting to maybe fix my computer? and I really find it annoying that you'd assume that. This is something I'm curious about, a how-does-it-work curiosity.

And don't tell me to wipe my hard drive.

Because any other reason is a joke. They cannot impact your performance anymore than your breathing raises the temperature of your room, increasing the temperature of your processor, causing lower conductivity and more small errors.
 

dds14u

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Originally posted by: dds14u
Does anyone know how a trial version tells when your 30 days or 21 day free trial period is over? I believe some trial versions actually stick something permanently on your computer just so that even if you re-download it it still knows that your 30 days is up. Well...I've used a lotta trial versions and I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to get rid of the permanent files it leaves on your computer (they're slowing my computer down)...registry and whatnot. Anyone got any insight?

MY original question. Thanks :p
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: dds14u
Originally posted by: Nebor
The real insight is to give this up and PAY for your software before some of the meaner ATOTers get ahold of you.

It's really not the programs I'm interested as much as wanting to maybe fix my computer? and I really find it annoying that you'd assume that. This is something I'm curious about, a how-does-it-work curiosity.

And don't tell me to wipe my hard drive.

the kind of data required for shareware protection is very insiginificant. all they need to do is hide a integer somewhere in the registry wit the first run date. most likely the kind of slowdowns you may be experiencing is due to leftover system files like DLLs and OCXs. but the latter is not needed for shareware protection.

system bogging down after a while is very common on windows and protection is not a significant cause of it.
 

dds14u

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: dds14u
Originally posted by: Nebor
The real insight is to give this up and PAY for your software before some of the meaner ATOTers get ahold of you.

It's really not the programs I'm interested as much as wanting to maybe fix my computer? and I really find it annoying that you'd assume that. This is something I'm curious about, a how-does-it-work curiosity.

And don't tell me to wipe my hard drive.

Because any other reason is a joke. They cannot impact your performance anymore than your breathing raises the temperature of your room, increasing the temperature of your processor, causing lower conductivity and more small errors.

I'm listening...elaborate please.
 

dds14u

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Ah...well your metaphor to breathing in a room...what if I had 100 people or a 1000 people breathing in my room?
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: dds14u
Ah...well your metaphor to breathing in a room...what if I had 100 people or a 1000 people breathing in my room?

do you have any idea how much information the registry contains? 1000 shareware programs (if even that many) storing protection flags is NOTHING
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: dds14u
Ah...well your metaphor to breathing in a room...what if I had 100 people or a 1000 people breathing in my room?

It wouldn't effect any benchmark ONE bit.
 

MAME

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ddss14u, listen to these guys, they're 100% correct. It doesn't effect your computer in the slightest
 

rezinn

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The thing is that this registry key isn't some running process on your computer. It would be accessed if you reinstalled the trial version, and probably never again. So there is little reason it would have any way to slow down your computer.

If you had 1000 people in my room, it would probably raise the temp by like 30 degrees. That may lower my benchmark scores :p I'd say it's more like one person in an outdoor a baseball stadium. Oh no, our breathing is causing global warming!
 

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Hell I want to know to. And not for hacking purposes. I do that anyway. I want to know because its being put on my system. I dont care if it makes no difference. Saying you shouldnt care is like test driving a car and have them secretly inject something into your anus while driving it. It doesnt do anything and you dont know where it is. I WANT THAT FVCKING THING GONE!

-Xionide
 

Nebor

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You shouldn't be using Windows then, Xionide. You have no control over anything really...