Gothic III and Dark Messiah of Might and Magic

[brikis98]

I'm not sure either of these games is out yet, but I swear i've read about people playing them... maybe they came out in europe already or something? and if any1 has played them, are they any good?

 

[pontifex]

i think DM comes out the 26th. i played the demo and didn't really find it all that fun. was too much like oblivion which ended up being a bore-fest to me.

 

[Trevelyan]

Dark Messiah:

"If you're in North America, the game will be playable on October 25th at 10:00 a.m. Eastern time. For the rest of the world, you'll be able to play on the 27th at 10:00 a.m. GMT."

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498965

So looks like tomorrow you can buy it off Steam. Probably already in the stores then as well, maybe not til Thursday.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: pontifex
i think DM comes out the 26th. i played the demo and didn't really find it all that fun. was too much like oblivion which ended up being a bore-fest to me.

I don't see it similar to Oblivion at all. Oblivion is an open free-to-roam world where you can do anything you want, in any order. DMoM&M will be more like HL2... only without guns. You will have a clear-cut "Point A to Point B" and the game won't advance to the next area without getting to Point B.

While, live Oblivion, there will be "rpg elements" to it, such as upgrading your fighting skills by gaining levels, or learning a new spell, it's definitely more of an action-adventure than RPG.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel

Originally posted by: pontifex
i think DM comes out the 26th. i played the demo and didn't really find it all that fun. was too much like oblivion which ended up being a bore-fest to me.

I don't see it similar to Oblivion at all. Oblivion is an open free-to-roam world where you can do anything you want, in any order. DMoM&M will be more like HL2... only without guns. You will have a clear-cut "Point A to Point B" and the game won't advance to the next area without getting to Point B.

While, live Oblivion, there will be "rpg elements" to it, such as upgrading your fighting skills by gaining levels, or learning a new spell, it's definitely more of an action-adventure than RPG.

the gameplay is pretty much exactly the same is what i mean. boring combat is my major gripe. block, block, swing, repeat.

 

[Hadsus]

Gothic 3 is out for the across-the-ponders.....but you can get the UK version in N. America via Gogamer. I've played it a little bit and it still needs some patching but it has that certain Gothic Idon'tknowwhat quality about it. Very alive world that Oblivion still has troube conveying.

 

[lamere]

Well Dark messiah was supposed to released 2 days ago and its nowhere to be found yet.
Amazon has it "in stock" but ships in 1 to 2 weeks......wtf?
Nowhere store has it locally here.
Why give it a release date of the 24th or 26th (games never come out on thursdays, only tuesdays as well as DVD's) so it wouldnt surprise me at all if came out on halloween

 

[biostud]

you can get DM from steam:
http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php

 

[skace]

Gothic 3 freaking rocks. Combat starts out hard, but becomes more rewarding.

 

[Captante]

Dark Messiah is in stock at Best Buy here in Connecticut ... I grabbed a copy last night at the same time I picked up FEAR: Extraction point.

Installed both last night but havn't had a chance to play yet.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: Captante
Dark Messiah is in stock at Best Buy here in Connecticut ... I grabbed a copy last night at the same time I picked up FEAR: Extraction point.

Installed both last night but havn't had a chance to play yet.

let us know once you do 🙂

 

[SViper]

Anyone notice that Gothic 3 isn't as "polished" as a game like Oblivion? I had the same beef with Dungeon Lords as well. It's just the way the game feels. It probably has something to with inconsistent frame rates. Albeit Oblivion had some variation in frame rates as well, but overall it was pretty consistent.

The same with the interface. Bringing up your inventory/map/quests, it doesn't actually pause the game. All of the action just stops. For instance, if something is attacking you and you bring up your inventory, he just stops attacking and stands there. That just doesn't "feel" like a polished game to me.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: SViper
Anyone notice that Gothic 3 isn't as "polished" as a game like Oblivion? I had the same beef with Dungeon Lords as well. It's just the way the game feels. It probably has something to with inconsistent frame rates. Albeit Oblivion had some variation in frame rates as well, but overall it was pretty consistent.

The same with the interface. Bringing up your inventory/map/quests, it doesn't actually pause the game. All of the action just stops. For instance, if something is attacking you and you bring up your inventory, he just stops attacking and stands there. That just doesn't "feel" like a polished game to me.

Pirahna Bytes, Gothic 3 devs, have admitted that the game was not entirely finished upon release, some bugs and balancing issues that they couldn't get to in time. In fairness, they were working on a much smaller budget than Bethesda was with Oblivion. They also have JoWood as their publisher, a truly crap outfit. Bethesda is big enough to make its own timetable and thus they were able to delay Oblivion to make sure it was relatively complete when it went out.

 

[Mem]

Anyone notice that Gothic 3 isn't as "polished" as a game like Oblivion? I had the same beef with Dungeon Lords as well.

As Dethfrumbelo as stated they are a very small company compared to Bethesda,Gothic 3 IMHO is a better game then Oblivion,I have played them both (Oblivion right to the end) and while I have yet to finish Gothic 3, it's a lot more enjoyable and harder game.

Rest assured next patch will be out soon and another patch to follow that one as well.

 

[SViper]

Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo

Originally posted by: SViper
Anyone notice that Gothic 3 isn't as "polished" as a game like Oblivion? I had the same beef with Dungeon Lords as well. It's just the way the game feels. It probably has something to with inconsistent frame rates. Albeit Oblivion had some variation in frame rates as well, but overall it was pretty consistent.

The same with the interface. Bringing up your inventory/map/quests, it doesn't actually pause the game. All of the action just stops. For instance, if something is attacking you and you bring up your inventory, he just stops attacking and stands there. That just doesn't "feel" like a polished game to me.

Pirahna Bytes, Gothic 3 devs, have admitted that the game was not entirely finished upon release, some bugs and balancing issues that they couldn't get to in time. In fairness, they were working on a much smaller budget than Bethesda was with Oblivion. They also have JoWood as their publisher, a truly crap outfit. Bethesda is big enough to make its own timetable and thus they were able to delay Oblivion to make sure it was relatively complete when it went out.

I guess that makes sense. I really didn't think of it in that way. Bethesda had pretty big success with Morrowind as well, so they could afford to delay the game until it was ready.

I truly think that Gothic 3 could be a good game. It's just that the lack of polish takes away from the game IMO.