got my Mac Pro

Chiropteran

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I got my new computer on Friday. A Mac Pro, single quad core 2.8 CPU, 8800 GT video card upgrade, otherwise base specs. Added an additional 750GB hard drive and 4GB of RAM to bring the total up to 6GB. I feel like I should have made a case for a second CPU, no it's absolutely not needed now but I expect to be using this computer for the next 3-4 years and the additional CPU would have increased the long-term value of the computer for a relatively small increase in cost. It also looks like one of the few cases where the cost from Apple would have been cheaper than it will cost to upgrade it myself later, prices for the xeon CPUs at places like newegg are crazy.

I played with Mac OS X long enough to install the latest updates and run Bootcamp. Split off a 60GB partition for Vista and installed Ultimate 64-bit. Bootcamp is very impressive, why can't Dell offer driver updates in a similar way? However, it didn't seem to include the latest nvidia drivers. The included drivers work, but for something like a video card there can be a huge difference between the latest release, so it's odd that Bootcamp doesn't include them.

In Vista the computer ran great, just as I would expect from a computer given it's hardware. The hard drive bays are awesome, except for the fact I can't install a velociraptor.

Mac OS X is a bit awkward to use though. Is there some hidden equivalent to alt-tab for changing between windows? Where is the cool stuff? I remember hearing all about the cool 3-D effects built into the UI that put windows to shame, but I don't actually see anything special.

One particular "quirk" I have noticed that really annoys me, is how action prompts are delt with for applications that don't currently have focus.

This is what I am talking about:

I'm using iTunes and ripping some CD's while I am making this post. I put a new CD in, and it takes 10-15 seconds for iTunes to recognize and and prompt me to copy it. No problem, I just switch back to Safari and continue typing my post. But then iTunes pops up the prompt, steals focus, yet it doesn't let me click on the prompt! It's grayed out. I click on iTunes and it gives an annoying error sound and won't let me change focus that way either. Through trial and error I eventually found I have to click on iTunes at the bottom on the dock, THEN I can click on the popup prompt. It works, it isn't a huge deal, but it seems so backwards. If there is any way to disable all automatic focus changes and enable focus changes by clicking on applications instead of only by using the dock, I'd love to hear how you enable it.

Other than that issue, Mac OS X has been fun to use. I'm not sure if I could use it as my primary OS outside work, but it's no worse than learning Linux.
 

Saint Nick

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Cool review. What kind of things are you going to use this Mac for? How are you adjusting to the UI? I do a lot of audio recording and I'd like to get a Mac sometime soon :) ... In the meantime, I'm going to get an iPhone :)
 

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You can switch between windows by hitting "CMD+Tilde".

As for the cool 3d effects, I'm not sure that there are a lot of cool 3d effects.. I don't remember that. I know that there are a lot of Core Animation features.. like if you hold SHIFT and then double click on the title bar of an app it does a super slow mo minimize, which can be cool. In general, though, I just like the slick pixel precise look of OS X to Windows. Although, Vista is getting really close IMO.

Glad you are enjoying the machine, and I'll try and see if I can't find a solution to the whole focus issue.
 

bearxor

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A lot of functions are remapped to the command key. For instance, instead of alt+tab, command+tab will being up the images of your apps and allow you to tab through them.

What you want to play around with is Expose. I think it's different on the new Apple keyboards but it should be like F10-F12 or so. Pressing one shows all of your open windows in your current application, another shows all open windows and the other moves all open windows aside so you can see your desktop. You can map these to corners of the screen so you drag your mouse to the corners of the screen instead of hitting buttons. Check out the Desktop & Screen saver option in the Systems Prefs and then Hot Corners under the screen saver tab. You can set it to do a lot of things. Like my work machine I have the top right corner of the screen set to start screen saver so that if i get up and walk away from my desk I just drag my mouse up there and my screen saver comes on instantly, and then set the computer to ask for a password upon exiting the screen saver.

Don't forget command+h. Hides your open window. Pretty useful. You can check out all the OS keyboard shortcuts in the Keyboard & Mouse pane in the system prefs.

When I got this job three years ago that required me to support Mac's, I did a hard OS X switch, only using my work machine for three months. Sometimes the only way to learn is to be forced to learn.

BTW: my windows never steal focus. Anytime an open app asks for something, it's icon just bounces in the dock ("like a jack russel f*cking terrier") until I click it.
 

TheStu

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iTunes has been more naggy of late, and the issue you mentioned where you have to bring iTunes back from the Dock happens to me on occasion as well.

As Bearxor pointed out, you probably heard about Expose, which in my opinion, puts Alt+Tab to shame.

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Chiropteran

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I don't have a camera at work today, if I can remember to bring it later in the week I'll take a few pictures.

Originally posted by: bearxor

What you want to play around with is Expose. I think it's different on the new Apple keyboards but it should be like F10-F12 or so. Pressing one shows all of your open windows in your current application, another shows all open windows and the other moves all open windows aside so you can see your desktop. You can map these to corners of the screen so you drag your mouse to the corners of the screen instead of hitting buttons. Check out the Desktop & Screen saver option in the Systems Prefs and then Hot Corners under the screen saver tab. You can set it to do a lot of things. Like my work machine I have the top right corner of the screen set to start screen saver so that if i get up and walk away from my desk I just drag my mouse up there and my screen saver comes on instantly, and then set the computer to ask for a password upon exiting the screen saver.

Don't forget command+h. Hides your open window. Pretty useful. You can check out all the OS keyboard shortcuts in the Keyboard & Mouse pane in the system prefs.

I found the function that shrinks all the open windows so you can switch to the one you want, pretty cool. I'm not sure where the other functions are mapped but I'll play around with it.

Originally posted by: bearxorWhen I got this job three years ago that required me to support Mac's, I did a hard OS X switch, only using my work machine for three months. Sometimes the only way to learn is to be forced to learn.

I'm trying to do about the same, but I know I can't help but use Windows machines occasionally. I'm just going to use Mac OS X as often as possible until I learn it.

Originally posted by: bearxorBTW: my windows never steal focus. Anytime an open app asks for something, it's icon just bounces in the dock ("like a jack russel f*cking terrier") until I click it.

It might not have stole focus on it's own, I might have just tried to click on the popup when I saw it. Next time I'm ripping CDs I'll pay closer attention.

Originally posted by: TheStu
And now for a shameless plug that might just help you out

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...t_key=y&keyword1=guide

Thanks, I'll read that.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
I found the function that shrinks all the open windows so you can switch to the one you want, pretty cool. I'm not sure where the other functions are mapped but I'll play around with it.
expose basically has three modes... show all open windows... show all open windows for active app... and show desktop. There's a slow mode for show all open windows too, but I have no idea why that's there.

personally, I think it's damn useful... but I sorta like vista's flip 3d too. Ideally, I'd like flip3d for cmd+tab, and expose for what it is.