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Got my car Dyno'd yesterday......
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US spec has 2 active diffs for normal, 3 active diffs for MR version. 4.8 is comnsertive, when it first came out, Motortrend had a supercar shootout between cobra R, corvette, ferriris, lambo murcialago, jaguar xjr, that mercedes amg sedan(E55AMG?), viper, mossler MT900P and a evo. there may have been other cars, but i only remember this many. Anyway, the evo posted respectable numbers 4.56 to 60, excellent braking, 2nd or 3rd in the test i think, great g loads and middle of the pack figure 8s. I agree the evo is hideous, and so is the sti. Too ricer/tall/narrow/sedanish for me but it's a great driving car. Also remember, if you buy any wrx non sti, slap on a good exhaust and a ecu reflash, you'll easily make 280hp.
skyking
Lifer
Sorry guys, apples to oranges. The EVO looks like some jacked up sedan, because it is.
The WRX, ditto. Don't get me wrong, the performance is great, but the mustang owns in appearance. If we could all drive as fast as we wanted, it would matter more.
As it is, the 'stang looks great stuck in traffic😛
The mustang has it all for me, looks, sound, reasonable performance.
Congrats on a nice ride, DaTT🙂
Man, I'll take low RPM grunt over a screaming 4-banger any day. It's like the difference between 120mm and 60mm cooling fans. Even though they both move the same volume of air, who the hell wants to listen to the 60mm all day long? I get a tension headache just thinking about it!
Ok first off, congrats on the dyno run and making nice numbers. Its very easy to get even more horsepower from the 05 mustang with simple bolt ons (cold air kit, exhaust). Just read any of the latest mustang magazines and they have dyno sheets galore showing off how much power can be gain with simple mods. Surprised no one has said why not drop 5 grand into the 05 mustang GT on super charger and be breaking low 12s heheh, but thats a whole different arguement.
2nd, how can you guys be comparing a mustang GT which is designed for all types of people (including those who enjoy a comfy, smooth ride) to a Evo or STI. Those two models are designed for the racing type in mind. They have the stiffer suspension, bigger brakes, summer tires (I believe 05 mustangs have all weather tires) and more horsepower because they are expected to have it. You also pay more for it too. Dont get me wrong, they both are terrific cars, but a better comparison would be an Evo and Shelby Mustang Cobra. Evo starting at 33k and the Shelby cobra SHOULD be 40k (I can be wrong on this, no official statement yet) so its an equal comparison to compare those two if you are comparing the mustang GT to an Evo (7k difference). Shelby cobra should be Due out next year , so ya ya, can always say its not out yet (same thing can be said about the Dodge Challenger, and Chevy Camaro, etc etc).
IMO the only thing giving the mustang GT some run for its money is the Neon SRT 4 which is 4 grand cheaper in MSRP and just as fast. But sorry, I dont want a FWD car, especially one that looks like a neon, yuck. But the performance is definitely there! (till you break 12s and battle with wheel hop)
Anyone read road and track? they just ripped a 13.7 on the new 05 GTO (check out their webpage, look at charger vs GTO). Thats pretty bad, LOL. In all fairness though, the magazine's Ive read, the average 1/4 mile time for the new GTO has been 13.3 - 13.5. Right around where a manual 05 Mustang comes out. BUT, the LS engines are awesome, and with minor mod's can be breaking 12s easy, but same thing can be said with alot of cars.
Charger, heck the SRT 8 charger with 425 hp and 44k price tag (price of model that was tested its base is 35k) only ripped a 13.3. More hp / tq doesnt always mean faster car.
Anyways, this arguement is pretty moot, I mean, anyone can just stick a big motor in a small car, and have one insane ride (small block ford in a miata For the win), always remember if your on the street, someone's always gonna have a faster ride.
2nd, how can you guys be comparing a mustang GT which is designed for all types of people (including those who enjoy a comfy, smooth ride) to a Evo or STI. Those two models are designed for the racing type in mind. They have the stiffer suspension, bigger brakes, summer tires (I believe 05 mustangs have all weather tires) and more horsepower because they are expected to have it. You also pay more for it too. Dont get me wrong, they both are terrific cars, but a better comparison would be an Evo and Shelby Mustang Cobra. Evo starting at 33k and the Shelby cobra SHOULD be 40k (I can be wrong on this, no official statement yet) so its an equal comparison to compare those two if you are comparing the mustang GT to an Evo (7k difference). Shelby cobra should be Due out next year , so ya ya, can always say its not out yet (same thing can be said about the Dodge Challenger, and Chevy Camaro, etc etc).
IMO the only thing giving the mustang GT some run for its money is the Neon SRT 4 which is 4 grand cheaper in MSRP and just as fast. But sorry, I dont want a FWD car, especially one that looks like a neon, yuck. But the performance is definitely there! (till you break 12s and battle with wheel hop)
Anyone read road and track? they just ripped a 13.7 on the new 05 GTO (check out their webpage, look at charger vs GTO). Thats pretty bad, LOL. In all fairness though, the magazine's Ive read, the average 1/4 mile time for the new GTO has been 13.3 - 13.5. Right around where a manual 05 Mustang comes out. BUT, the LS engines are awesome, and with minor mod's can be breaking 12s easy, but same thing can be said with alot of cars.
Charger, heck the SRT 8 charger with 425 hp and 44k price tag (price of model that was tested its base is 35k) only ripped a 13.3. More hp / tq doesnt always mean faster car.
Anyways, this arguement is pretty moot, I mean, anyone can just stick a big motor in a small car, and have one insane ride (small block ford in a miata For the win), always remember if your on the street, someone's always gonna have a faster ride.
Some of the most powerful F1 cars ever to race were turbocharged 4 cylinder engines making over 1000hp. Please, do go on about how impressive 500hp is out of a 454CI V8 though.[/quote]
You obviously don't understand what I said. Yes, some of the F1 motors are impressive, but not because they are 4 cylinders.
All you are doing by turbocharging or supercharging is forcing more air into the engine than it could suck in by itself.
Which otherwise you could only do (after a certain level of modifications was reached) by building a larger CID engine.
The only way to make more power is to pump more air in, and then you can add more fuel.
Cams, compression, intakes, headers, etc. are ways of doing this, in small doses.
Forced induction is a way of doing it in a big way. But basically, all you are doing with forced induction is fooling a small engine into breathing like it's bigger....which may be necessary, given size constraints, rules, etc.
But really, if you know what you're talking about when you're talking the nuts and bolts of an engine, AND in high performance engine theory, then it really isn't that impressive.
Just a matter of having enough money to do it, that's all.
BobDaMenkey
Diamond Member
Holy crap that torque curve is sweet. Needs a chip I think though to get those nasty jaggies out of it. I've never seen a stock dyno not have those.
James3shin
Diamond Member
Wow, i didn't know the GT's were that nice. Very nice Datt.
drnickriviera
Platinum Member
Does that say 8% humidity? Are you in the middle of the desert or something?
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