Got my 2500 in

Schadenfroh

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hey,
i have a 2500 barton aqxea

questions are

1. i heard that a aqxea is basically a underclock 3200, is this true?
2. Can my Asus a7n8x deluxe rev1.04 run this thing stable at 400mhz fsb? (i have correct RAM)
3. can i expect 2.3 ghz out of it?

thnx
 

Jeff7181

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You can expect 2.3 out of it, but from my experience, also expect core temps over 60 C... not worth it in my opinion, which is why I run mine at 2.2 on default voltage... temps never go above 50C unless it's over 28C in the room.

*EDIT* BTW... your mobo will probably handle a 400 Mhz FSB just fine... it's just not tested by Asus to run at that speed.
 

Ymeister19

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60c are you $hitting me, with those kind of temps ur cooling must blow, i run a 2000+ tbred revA with 2.03 volts to it and it peaked out at 48c after 24 hrs of prime and sandra burn in running at the same time
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: Ymeister19
60c are you $hitting me, with those kind of temps ur cooling must blow, i run a 2000+ tbred revA with 2.03 volts to it and it peaked out at 48c after 24 hrs of prime and sandra burn in running at the same time

You're not taking temps directly from the thermal diode... you're taking temps from the CPU socket... which doesn't tell you how hot the CORE is. If I change MBM to look at the temp using a sensor on the motherboard, it says 44 C right now... diode says 50... at 2.3 Ghz, diode says 66 (highest I've ever seen it)... but motherboard temp sensor says 52... BIG difference.
 

Ymeister19

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allright well heres a better question, is the temperatures that AMD says are safe measured off monitoring programs such as asus pcprobe(which is where i got my temp) or are they measured off the diode?
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
asus probe says mine is running at 60 with default everything:Q

take the stock cooler and use it as a paper-weight

buy an SLK-800(a)
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
asus probe says mine is running at 60 with default everything:Q

take the stock cooler and use it as a paper-weight

buy an SLK-800(a)

its a problem with the fans RPMs, they are only running at 2,800. anyone know a good program that i can use to control its RPMs? SpeedFan does not like my SATA drivers.
 

AkumaX

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i got mine running at 2342 ( 10.5 x 223 ) @ 1.85v, 45c load

before it was as high as 2400 ( 12 x 200 ) @ 1.925v but couldnt find stability (didnt want to go higher on vcore)

i have done so before though, going 2.1v, but my +5v rail dipped down to 4.35v before it crapped out :p

i would put it at 2394 ( 10.5 x 228 ) @ 1.9v, but im using a silent 92mm fan w/ my slk-900u

i want to find a magical 2.4ghz spot, but right now my ram is running async @ 75% of cpu speed

i've done stuff like 10 x 230, but dont know what sweet spot i want yet

i think my cpu's a week 17 or something
 

Mavrick007

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
hey,
i have a 2500 barton aqxea

questions are

1. i heard that a aqxea is basically a underclock 3200, is this true?
2. Can my Asus a7n8x deluxe rev1.04 run this thing stable at 400mhz fsb? (i have correct RAM)
3. can i expect 2.3 ghz out of it?

thnx

If you want to find out what AMD originally had slated your cpu as, then look at the second string of characters after the AXDA2500... and then check the 8th and 9th character.
If it says 28, it was originally a 2800+.
If 30, then 3000+, and if 32, then it was a 3200+.
I have a AQXEA chip as well, but it says it was a 2800+.

I wouldn't expect your rev 1.04 board to get up to 200x2 fsb cause it's not "officially" supported like the rev 2 board with the ultra 400 chipset.
I think most people are getting around 175-185 and sometimes a bit higher.

I think that you should get at least 2.2Ghz out of it if not higher. This is a decent overclock on the barton and should give you around a 3200+ speed.
If you get higher which is unlikely with your mobo, then it is a bonus. Try a high multiplyer if the fsb doesn't go as high.

 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
You can expect 2.3 out of it, but from my experience, also expect core temps over 60 C... not worth it in my opinion



umm my 2500+ runs 35c (95f) or lower (as low as 85f) depening on my room temp
and im running 1.975v thru her.....then again I dont use air cooling.
 

Hankysmoo

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Here is what I got from Newegg.
AXDA2500DKV4D Y857888250251
AQXEA 0327UPJW Made in malaysia

Does that mean my chip was orginally a 2500+?
On stock HSF w/ Arctic Silver 1 i can only get about 2150mhz at default voltage with my new Shuttle AN35N.
My Idle Temps are about 41 degrees C and under load it gets to about 52 degrees C. Did I just get a bad chip?
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
You can expect 2.3 out of it, but from my experience, also expect core temps over 60 C... not worth it in my opinion



umm my 2500+ runs 35c (95f) or lower (as low as 85f) depening on my room temp
and im running 1.975v thru her.....then again I dont use air cooling.

So you're just bragging about your water cooling or what? How are you helping?

*EDIT* Sorry, that sounds a bit harsh... just wondering what your point is...
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
You can expect 2.3 out of it, but from my experience, also expect core temps over 60 C... not worth it in my opinion



umm my 2500+ runs 35c (95f) or lower (as low as 85f) depening on my room temp
and im running 1.975v thru her.....then again I dont use air cooling.

So you're just bragging about your water cooling or what? How are you helping?

*EDIT* Sorry, that sounds a bit harsh... just wondering what your point is...

point being on water temps are low. with high end air temps can be just as low....just loud. my 2400+ @ 2.0v 2.4ghz was running about 97f idle on a swiftech mxc 462+
 

Jeff7181

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point being on water temps are low. with high end air temps can be just as low....just loud. my 2400+ @ 2.0v 2.4ghz was running about 97f idle on a swiftech mxc 462+
True... but I don't think a 7500 RPM 80mm fan is practical... I don't even consider water practical... they're both extremes to me.
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
point being on water temps are low. with high end air temps can be just as low....just loud. my 2400+ @ 2.0v 2.4ghz was running about 97f idle on a swiftech mxc 462+
True... but I don't think a 7500 RPM 80mm fan is practical... I don't even consider water practical... they're both extremes to me.


to each his own. i went water for silence nothing more really.
but people freak out about their temps considering hte chip is made to be ran for what 10 years useing that stock cooler....which normally gives around 60c anyways. on my older 1.4ghz T-bird system im running a 60mm YS tech like 8500rpm fan......louder than a delta but moves more air.....that was NEVER in my room.
 

0JK0

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Originally posted by: Mavrick007
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
hey,
i have a 2500 barton aqxea

questions are

1. i heard that a aqxea is basically a underclock 3200, is this true?
2. Can my Asus a7n8x deluxe rev1.04 run this thing stable at 400mhz fsb? (i have correct RAM)
3. can i expect 2.3 ghz out of it?

thnx

If you want to find out what AMD originally had slated your cpu as, then look at the second string of characters after the AXDA2500... and then check the 8th and 9th character.
If it says 28, it was originally a 2800+.
If 30, then 3000+, and if 32, then it was a 3200+.
I have a AQXEA chip as well, but it says it was a 2800+.

I wouldn't expect your rev 1.04 board to get up to 200x2 fsb cause it's not "officially" supported like the rev 2 board with the ultra 400 chipset.
I think most people are getting around 175-185 and sometimes a bit higher.

I think that you should get at least 2.2Ghz out of it if not higher. This is a decent overclock on the barton and should give you around a 3200+ speed.
If you get higher which is unlikely with your mobo, then it is a bonus. Try a high multiplyer if the fsb doesn't go as high.

Interesting...
I read on asus.com
that to get the support for fsb200 on A7N8X Deluxe rev. 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 1.06 all you have to do is upgrade the BIOS and you'r set!
 

Mavrick007

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FSB 400 Support

Starting from PCB version 2.0, The A7N8X Deluxe motherboard supports Front Side Bus (FSB) 400. The users of PCB 1.06 or earlier version can update their motherboard BIOS to get FSB 400 support. The PCB (Printed Circuit Board) version is located beside the motherboard name printed on the motherboard. . PCB 2.0 BIOS version or later are not compatible with PCB 1.06 or earlier BIOS versions.

The correct quote is that starting at revision 1.06, the Asus A7n8x deluxe has support for fsb 400. This does not mean that they suddenly have an ultra 400 chipset.
It's good to get support for 400fsb, so that you can run the new bartons, ie the 3200+ with the 200fsb, but I would rather have the newer revision because I believe
that I could have a chance to go higher on an overclock.
 

BuckNaked

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Originally posted by: Mavrick007
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
hey,
i have a 2500 barton aqxea

questions are

1. i heard that a aqxea is basically a underclock 3200, is this true?
2. Can my Asus a7n8x deluxe rev1.04 run this thing stable at 400mhz fsb? (i have correct RAM)
3. can i expect 2.3 ghz out of it?

thnx

If you want to find out what AMD originally had slated your cpu as, then look at the second string of characters after the AXDA2500... and then check the 8th and 9th character.
If it says 28, it was originally a 2800+.
If 30, then 3000+, and if 32, then it was a 3200+.
I have a AQXEA chip as well, but it says it was a 2800+.


I wouldn't expect your rev 1.04 board to get up to 200x2 fsb cause it's not "officially" supported like the rev 2 board with the ultra 400 chipset.
I think most people are getting around 175-185 and sometimes a bit higher.

I think that you should get at least 2.2Ghz out of it if not higher. This is a decent overclock on the barton and should give you around a 3200+ speed.
If you get higher which is unlikely with your mobo, then it is a bonus. Try a high multiplyer if the fsb doesn't go as high.

I am not sure if that is correct.... Looking at my week 27 2500+, I come up with these numbers...

AXDA2500KV4D Y857617200410
AQXEA0327SPDW

That would make mine a 2000+???

Dave



 

lookouthere

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Congradulation!!!
you are one of those few people got CPU that is upgraded instead of degraded from 32 or 28.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
point being on water temps are low. with high end air temps can be just as low....just loud. my 2400+ @ 2.0v 2.4ghz was running about 97f idle on a swiftech mxc 462+
True... but I don't think a 7500 RPM 80mm fan is practical... I don't even consider water practical... they're both extremes to me.


to each his own. i went water for silence nothing more really.
but people freak out about their temps considering hte chip is made to be ran for what 10 years useing that stock cooler....which normally gives around 60c anyways. on my older 1.4ghz T-bird system im running a 60mm YS tech like 8500rpm fan......louder than a delta but moves more air.....that was NEVER in my room.

The reason overclockers don't light high temps is because the processor becomes more unstable as temps rise when you've already got it near it's limits. Raising the temp 10 degrees C is enough to make it unstable when you're right on the edge of stability.
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
point being on water temps are low. with high end air temps can be just as low....just loud. my 2400+ @ 2.0v 2.4ghz was running about 97f idle on a swiftech mxc 462+
True... but I don't think a 7500 RPM 80mm fan is practical... I don't even consider water practical... they're both extremes to me.


to each his own. i went water for silence nothing more really.
but people freak out about their temps considering hte chip is made to be ran for what 10 years useing that stock cooler....which normally gives around 60c anyways. on my older 1.4ghz T-bird system im running a 60mm YS tech like 8500rpm fan......louder than a delta but moves more air.....that was NEVER in my room.

The reason overclockers don't light high temps is because the processor becomes more unstable as temps rise when you've already got it near it's limits. Raising the temp 10 degrees C is enough to make it unstable when you're right on the edge of stability.

i know that but i was referenceing to those that DONT OC and still freak out about their temps.....yes there are some out there :p

 
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Originally posted by: Buck_Naked
Originally posted by: Mavrick007
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
hey,
i have a 2500 barton aqxea

questions are

1. i heard that a aqxea is basically a underclock 3200, is this true?
2. Can my Asus a7n8x deluxe rev1.04 run this thing stable at 400mhz fsb? (i have correct RAM)
3. can i expect 2.3 ghz out of it?

thnx

If you want to find out what AMD originally had slated your cpu as, then look at the second string of characters after the AXDA2500... and then check the 8th and 9th character.
If it says 28, it was originally a 2800+.
If 30, then 3000+, and if 32, then it was a 3200+.
I have a AQXEA chip as well, but it says it was a 2800+.


I wouldn't expect your rev 1.04 board to get up to 200x2 fsb cause it's not "officially" supported like the rev 2 board with the ultra 400 chipset.
I think most people are getting around 175-185 and sometimes a bit higher.

I think that you should get at least 2.2Ghz out of it if not higher. This is a decent overclock on the barton and should give you around a 3200+ speed.
If you get higher which is unlikely with your mobo, then it is a bonus. Try a high multiplyer if the fsb doesn't go as high.

I am not sure if that is correct.... Looking at my week 27 2500+, I come up with these numbers...

AXDA2500KV4D Y857617200410
AQXEA0327SPDW

That would make mine a 2000+???

Dave

that is just a rumor and AMD has said themselves the rumor is not true

 

Tikerz

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I have a rev 1.04 board that won't do 200MHz FSB stable. The highest stable FSB I can get is 186MHz. Right now I'm running 186x12.5 = 2325MHz.