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Londo_Jowo

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and what does that have to do with the tea in china?

I'm surprised Denver has lower gas prices than the Utopia of Texas.

Do you ever proof read what you write?

The main reason prices are high in Texas right now is several refineries are shutdown for maintenance (turnaround) and shifting over to summer blend gasolines. They'll be starting up again this upcoming week.

The company I work for made $5 million in the past three weeks working on equipment from the refineries.
 

monovillage

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Yep, no aggregate media bias. I have posted links to such research many times in the past. Use the search function.

Of course you think you see media bias. You are highly partisan and therefore even more susceptible than most to confirmation bias. It's funny how you try to equate your perception of the media with some sort of unquestionable reality. Your exact problem is that your perceptions are skewed by your ultra right wing ideology.

There are other interesting studies dealing with your problem. You can show a down the middle news excerpt to groups of both left and right wing partisans and have both come back and report it was biased against them.

Thought so, all this "research" you've done and posted some time in the past isn't something you have at hand. Now it also becomes "no aggregate media bias" I wonder what it will change to next?
 

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The recent rise in price is the result of speculation. If a criminal investigation is announced, the price will drop.
 

GrGr

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The recent rise in price is the result of speculation. If a criminal investigation is announced, the price will drop.

You don't think the recent attacks on Libya, Syria and Iran has anything to do with the rising price of oil?
 

monovillage

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You don't think the recent attacks on Libya, Syria and Iran has anything to do with the rising price of oil?

Don't forget that the pinhead Chavez is going to Cuba for more cancer treatments, his ticket is going to be punched before too long. Also the tensions from Argentina flexing it's president at the U.K. adds to the uncertainty down in South America.
 

Doppel

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How is servicing industrial equipment and providing repair parts raping the country?
Ha! Exactly what I would expect an oil thug to say! It takes one to know one, I make about a million dollars a month for every $10/barrel increase in oil over $90. I get a company bonus if I can prove that my speculation in the oil market has cost at least 100,000 jobs in the last quarter.
 

monovillage

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Ha! Exactly what I would expect an oil thug to say! It takes one to know one, I make about a million dollars a month for every $10/barrel increase in oil over $90. I get a company bonus if I can prove that my speculation in the oil market has cost at least 100,000 jobs in the last quarter.

What kind of bonus do you get if you run over little kids during a job?
 

Londo_Jowo

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Ha! Exactly what I would expect an oil thug to say! It takes one to know one, I make about a million dollars a month for every $10/barrel increase in oil over $90. I get a company bonus if I can prove that my speculation in the oil market has cost at least 100,000 jobs in the last quarter.

Ha! We manufacture high quality vinegar on the side. We make massive profits from this valuable elixir. It's so valuable people in the Chicago area have to show their ID to purchase it.
 

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You don't think the recent attacks on Libya, Syria and Iran has anything to do with the rising price of oil?

It only has a partial effect on the price of oil based on Fear. But that is the cover under which speculators do their dirty work.

The recent rise is NOT a supply/demand situation, because OPEC (including Saudi Arabia) are producing more oil than global demand, and gas demand in the US is the lowest it's been for decades, allowing US oil companies and refineries to export record amounts of refined products.

In July 2008 when oil was $147/barrel, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley stated that oil would reach $200 by December. The US government announced an investigative task force on the price of oil. By December, the price had dropped to $33/barrel.
 
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fskimospy

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Thought so, all this "research" you've done and posted some time in the past isn't something you have at hand. Now it also becomes "no aggregate media bias" I wonder what it will change to next?

It was always no aggregate media bias. How could it really be anything else when you were talking about an entire institution?

It's easily searchable on here, go do it. I got really tired of posting the same things again and again only to have ideological people dismiss it because it told them things that challenged their heartfelt beliefs of being victims.
 

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So recently, production has nothing to do with the price of oil. Speculators bought 33 times the amount of oil available, through paper bets they place on futures and derivative exchanges.
 

The-Noid

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In July 2008 when oil was $147/barrel, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley stated that oil would reach $200 by December. The US government announced an investigative task force on the price of oil. By December, the price had dropped to $33/barrel.

Absolutely, this had nothing to do with a worldwide recession and thought that the world may be entering a depression.

Nothing at all.
 

The-Noid

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So recently, production has nothing to do with the price of oil. Speculators bought 33 times the amount of oil available, through paper bets they place on futures and derivative exchanges.

Please provide documentation.

This isn't even close to correct.

I'll even give you a hint. The file you are looking for is called the CFTC commitments of traders report.

http://ycharts.com/indicators/reports/this_month_in_futures_markets

This is a pretty good quick summary.
 
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monovillage

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It was always no aggregate media bias. How could it really be anything else when you were talking about an entire institution?

It's easily searchable on here, go do it. I got really tired of posting the same things again and again only to have ideological people dismiss it because it told them things that challenged their heartfelt beliefs of being victims.

LMAO! You've been pulling this bullshit for almost 4 years!!

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Your proposal is another conspiracy?

Lets agree to disagree on this. These liberal bias threads go nowhere. Neither side is going to convince each other.
No, we won't agree to disagree. I have meta analysis and scientific research on my side. You have one widely discredited study from UCLA. Both sides are not equal.

Yes, my proposal is another conspiracy. A conspiracy that is carried out in every single contested election in America. It's called opposition research. Finding out dirt about your opponents and giving it to the media is what every single politician of any significance in America does in every single election they are a part of.

4 years of your bullshit answer
Go look them up yourself, there are a great number of meta analyses and studies done on media bias. I've even posted a few in previous threads. There is an entire area of media study and political science based around analysis of this type.

This is basic information, how do you not know this?

How about you just post a friggin' link to your magical metadata "research" oooh the real good stuff that's slam dunk better then anyone else's opposing peer reviewed research.
 

fskimospy

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LMAO! You've been pulling this bullshit for almost 4 years!!

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4 years of your bullshit answer


How about you just post a friggin' link to your magical metadata "research" oooh the real good stuff that's slam dunk better then anyone else's opposing peer reviewed research.

It's in the very thread you quoted from, genius. Why don't you go read them and get back to me?

Yes, widely discredited studies are not as good as studies that have not been widely discredited. You're really flipping out here, are you this scared to have your cherished victimhood challenged?

EDIT: Also, doesn't it tell you something that not one person has been able to provide a rebuttal to actual scientific study of media bias for years now? (probably not, any evidence you see will probably just be evidence of a further conspiracy against you)
 

DucatiMonster696

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Do you ever proof read what you write?

The main reason prices are high in Texas right now is several refineries are shutdown for maintenance (turnaround) and shifting over to summer blend gasolines. They'll be starting up again this upcoming week.

The company I work for made $5 million in the past three weeks working on equipment from the refineries.

I knew it.

You are one of the oil thugs that profits from this scam industry.

Sadly you have yet to profit from taking your medications. I think it's time your doctor up your dosage.
 

monovillage

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It's in the very thread you quoted from, genius. Why don't you go read them and get back to me?

Yes, widely discredited studies are not as good as studies that have not been widely discredited. You're really flipping out here, are you this scared to have your cherished victimhood challenged?

EDIT: Also, doesn't it tell you something that not one person has been able to provide a rebuttal to actual scientific study of media bias for years now? (probably not, any evidence you see will probably just be evidence of a further conspiracy against you)

Here's the thread I quoted from and i'm still laughing about it. Where is it?


http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=213876&highlight=eskimospy+media+research
 
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sportage

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Gas will do what it wants no matter who is in and what we do.
Until that day cars and energy no longer relies on oil.
Even if we drilled and lived totally on our own oil from within our shores,
do you not think Exxon, Conoco and Chevron wouldn't gouge us just as much as the Saudis when it comes to oil pricing? I mean really......
We're talking about massive total greed here....
Why would one believe there would be $2 a gal gas under Exxon and only US drilled oil?
The fact we get oil from the Middle East is probably one reason gas is not already $5 a gallon.
If anyone really believes US sourced oil from Exxon is going to give you $2 gas, you're as batshit crazy as Newt, Sarah and all the other republican candidates.