Got declined a job

[TechBoyJK]

Ok, i applied for a tech support job at a large company..... they own a major sports arena in my area.... I have alot of experience in webhosting, sales, etc... and have landed some elite deals that I shoudlnt even talk about.....

but im out of cash.... my brother works for this company and he got me in for the interview...

the job is for $40K per year plus benefits....

so i went in for my interview, and they had to "tech me out" which is just asking me a bunch of technical questions about windows, networking, etc...

I didnt miss a single question. I stumped them.. So they brought in some engineers with questions from a tech out sheet for their high level engineers, and I only missed one question, but broke it all the way down to what the problem was, i just couldnt remember something (that could easily be looked up)..... so I impressed them.....

I just talked to the guy today and he said he can't hire me because I'm over qualified. His manager wants to offer me a job at $65K+ per year doing something completely different........ but it doesn't open for another 2 months.... i asked if I could work the other position, and he said, well they have a firm policy that once you get into a certain division, you stay for 6 months because they need a stable staff...... but the job his manager wants me in opens in 2..... and he wants me for it... but if I took the lesser paying job, i would be locked in and looked over for the better job simply because of policy.... something thats set at teh corporate level in an office in another state.... the guy stated that he was most afraid that I would be bored to death in the job, would be frustrated by the stupid customers with the simplest of questions, and that I may take on a negative association to the place before I even have a chance to move up...

Was I just BS'd??? my brother does work there, and he has a job that is more technical than the one I was applying for, and I run circles around him regarding technical knowledge....

but the bottom line is, i need cash right now to make payments.... 2 months from now doesnt help.....

 

[Reel]

If a company hires someone that is overqualified for a job, they may get a bargain for their money but they also run a very high risk of having a bored employee that will leave or put in very little effort while there. Perhaps you could get their higher job offer in writing and find something that will tide you over while waiting?

 

[Cook1]

Originally posted by: Reel
If a company hires someone that is overqualified for a job, they may get a bargain for their money but they also run a very high risk of having a bored employee that will leave or put in very little effort while there. Perhaps you could get their higher job offer in writing and find something that will tide you over while waiting?

That's not a bad idea.

 

[DivideBYZero]

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[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
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I call shens on your name

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Techboy, you already know what you need to do. You do not need the support of the AT community to do it.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Reel
If a company hires someone that is overqualified for a job, they may get a bargain for their money but they also run a very high risk of having a bored employee that will leave or put in very little effort while there. Perhaps you could get their higher job offer in writing and find something that will tide you over while waiting?

thats exactly what the guy told me. he used the words "risk management" and "bored as hell"

He couldnt make a firm offer on the job, only that he knows, under the table, that the job is opening up for sure and he will be keeping my brother in the know..... But its a totally differnet career move, as I'd step right into managing people and doing something I enjoy and would be geting paid much better for it...

i might just go wait tables and see if I can't hold out..... i could use the social environment of something like Applebee's, etc. and the money could fend me off for a few months.... and that means living at home with the parents for a while....

but I have to do my own risk management, what if I never get that other job?

 

[Patt]

If they want you that badly 2 months from now, they'd find a way to hire you now if that was your only option.

 

[Nightfall]

Originally posted by: Cook1

Originally posted by: Reel
If a company hires someone that is overqualified for a job, they may get a bargain for their money but they also run a very high risk of having a bored employee that will leave or put in very little effort while there. Perhaps you could get their higher job offer in writing and find something that will tide you over while waiting?

That's not a bad idea.

I will come out and say this happens a lot. I have a couple friends who were offered jobs that don't open for another 1-3 months down the road. They just asked the company to put it in writing and they did. You may need to have a lawyer look over the sheet if it has a lot of legalize in it. The bigger the company, the more legalize there seems to be in things like that.

Thats what I would do as well. Ask for it in writing and then work somewhere else to tide you over for a bit. Even if it is something part time or 2 part time jobs.

If they won't put it in writing, and you can't afford to wait, then you might want to take that lower paying job or find another one. You can't put a lot of faith in a company that won't put an offer like that in writing. 2 months may go by and the job may never surface. Then, you will be kicking yourself over the fact you waited for nothing.

 

[PingSpike]

You could get the offer in writing I suppose, not that that is any kind of guarantee or anything and work at mcdonalds while eating ramen for a couple months.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

dont wait for the 65k job unless you get it in writing. have them hire you for that with a start date now() + 2 months and then put you on contract work for 2 months. or, go flip burgers while you wait or something

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
His manager wants to offer me a job at $65K+ per year doing something completely different........

Id say, get that in writing. If you get a promise in writing that you have the job in two months, I would take out a bank loan for these two months. 65K per year will quickly pay your loans back plus give you more to put in the bank for savings later on.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Nightfall

Originally posted by: Cook1

Originally posted by: Reel
If a company hires someone that is overqualified for a job, they may get a bargain for their money but they also run a very high risk of having a bored employee that will leave or put in very little effort while there. Perhaps you could get their higher job offer in writing and find something that will tide you over while waiting?

That's not a bad idea.

I will come out and say this happens a lot. I have a couple friends who were offered jobs that don't open for another 1-3 months down the road. They just asked the company to put it in writing and they did. You may need to have a lawyer look over the sheet if it has a lot of legalize in it. The bigger the company, the more legalize there seems to be in things like that.

Thats what I would do as well. Ask for it in writing and then work somewhere else to tide you over for a bit. Even if it is something part time or 2 part time jobs.

the guy says he will send me an email outlining the situation, but getting somethign in writing guaranteeing the job is a no go... basically, a new division is opening up, its been funded, but they dont start hiring for it for another 4-6 weeks..... he said wait for that, and he promises that my impression will last with them until then....

 

[iroast]

Temp job: FEDEX, UPS and such pays well. You get to build muscles while getting paid heh.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: iroast
Temp job: FEDEX, UPS and such pays well. You get to build muscles while getting paid heh.

yea, but everytime i hand out my resume, if it isn't for something like what this place wants to hire me for in 2 months, the people look at me like, "WTF are you doing here?"

 

[Vette73]

Haul pizzas until it opens. Easy hours and under the table wages.

 

[Stuxnet]

2 months is a short time to wait for a great opportunity like this. If it doesn't pan out, then you've lost 6 weeks of your life. Small price to pay given the risk/reward of the circumstances.

 

[SagaLore]

You should appreciate their honesty and willingness to put you in a higher position. I say go for the higher position. Ask them if they can bring you in part time for the 2 months you have to wait.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
You should appreciate their honesty and willingness to put you in a higher position. I say go for the higher position. Ask them if they can bring you in part time for the 2 months you have to wait.

the only thing is, its too technical of a business to just bring people in for part time... you are in for the serious ride, or you dont ride at all..... thats why they wont just bring me in for the hell of it....

 

[AbsolutDealage]

I was in this situation when I came out of college. I was pimping my resume all over the place, and I got a call from monster.com. By the time the interview was over, they told me I was overqualified for the job, and that they would not hire me because I would become bored very quickly. At the time, I still tried to talk them into it (needed the money), but I ended up not getting the job.

If I were you, I would get the 2 months thing in writing, and in the meantime just try and find something to pay the bills (as others have said, maybe look into contract work...). I have seen way too many promises of positions down the road that have fallen through.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: SagaLore
You should appreciate their honesty and willingness to put you in a higher position. I say go for the higher position. Ask them if they can bring you in part time for the 2 months you have to wait.

the only thing is, its too technical of a business to just bring people in for part time... you are in for the serious ride, or you dont ride at all..... thats why they wont just bring me in for the hell of it....

Then convince them to open that position now instead of 2 months from now.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: SagaLore

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: SagaLore
You should appreciate their honesty and willingness to put you in a higher position. I say go for the higher position. Ask them if they can bring you in part time for the 2 months you have to wait.

the only thing is, its too technical of a business to just bring people in for part time... you are in for the serious ride, or you dont ride at all..... thats why they wont just bring me in for the hell of it....

Then convince them to open that position now instead of 2 months from now.

im plotting on how to do that.....

 

[Stuxnet]

If you get too belligerant with them they'll start to lose interest. Just sit tight, wait out the 2 months, and make contact again in 2 or 3 weeks just to touch base. After the period has expired, make a more serious/formal contact with them letting them know you're still very interested in working for their company.

I wouldn't get into bullying them around with demands like "get this in writing" or "find a way to hire me now". The pool of candidates is too deep to justify putting up with prospects that are high-maintenance before they even start working.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: jbourne77
If you get too belligerant with them they'll start to lose interest. Just sit tight, wait out the 2 months, and make contact again in 2 or 3 weeks just to touch base. After the period has expired, make a more serious/formal contact with them letting them know you're still very interested in working for their company.

I wouldn't get into bullying them around with demands like "get this in writing" or "find a way to hire me now". The pool of candidates is too deep to justify putting up with prospects that are high-maintenance before they even start working.

i agree. thats why i just asked for something in email.... "so i could show my parents I wasn't bs'ing them" The guy knows I need the money, but I told him I could wait it out and borrow money from the folks if needed.... so I said, if this is the case, send me an email so I can show my mom..... he said no problem.... whether or not I get it......

and also, he said he couldnt hire me for the lesser job as a temp because he needs someone looking for a career at that level, and he was looking at a handful of people that weren't as qualified as me and were more suited for the job....

it all makes sense... and my brother even emailed me a few days ago saying the other guy who manages the new division, that he was talking to my bro about me.......

lol, and it gives me a good amount of time to clean up my system, lol, i partied hard the past couple of weeks.... hehe

 

[DaShen]

Wait tables at a local restaurant in the meantime and wait for the better job.

Apply to other jobs to keep your options open.