Attitudes like yours show the utter worthlessness of the neoconservative attitude, that you think you have the RIGHT to dictate to all around you based on your limited and naive experiences. You DO NOT. Your ignorant, narrow-minded pitiful hurtful statements wishing custody decisions without FULL 100% knowledge of EXACTLY what the situation is, in my view, makes you a prime candidate to have your a$$ completely kicked up one side and down the other. You interfere in my life like that and you can bet you butt you'll meet the business end of my 27 years of combat experience.
Attitudes like yours show the utter worthlessness of the neoconservative attitude, that you think you have the RIGHT to dictate to all around you based on your limited and naive experiences. You DO NOT. Your ignorant, narrow-minded pitiful hurtful statements wishing custody decisions without FULL 100% knowledge of EXACTLY what the situation is, in my view, makes you a prime candidate to have your a$$ completely kicked up one side and down the other. You interfere in my life like that and you can bet you butt you'll meet the business end of my 27 years of combat experience.
True only to a very minor degree. People are NOT the product of their environment. They have basic dispositions established by genetics and personality and they are, at the core, independent thinkers capable of forming their OWN views and mannerisms. Racists don't always have racist children, republicans birth democrats with regularity, and so on. To say that every action a child takes is a direct result of specific or general parental influences is utterly ludicrous. Moreover, to suggest that swearing affects any activity or thought process beyond that of swearing, is likewise ignorant.
Nope, not in the least. They're expressing an opinion, nothing more. I'll laugh at their stupidity of course, but that's all.
Aboslutely they were...liberalism (by it's actual definition and original use in politics) is that which is progressive, or seeks change. If you go to war with your parent country, you're a liberal in spades. There is absolutely NO argument that the founders, the original republican party, and jesus were ANYTHING but hardcore total liberals. None.
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Who cares if it's legal. It's incredibly LAME.
How about "Sodomize Bush"?
I don't think it is lame, I think it's an efficient way of conveying one's general feelings of disdain and disgust re: Bush to the world.
Efficient? How about 14-year-oldish?
The only way it could be any better was if it said, "FVCK BUSH LOLOL!1!!!111!~~~ WTF"
Yes, efficient. By the way, I don't agree that cursing someone you dislike intensely is a thing only teenagers should do. It's for adults as well.
It certainly demonstrates the intellectual nature of the anti-Bush thinker.
I'd guess that almost 100% of so-called anti-Bush thinkers don't have this bumper sticker on their car. Therefore, I would say the bumper sticker demonstrates precisely fvck all about these people as a group.
[/quote]Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Seriously, how do liberals expect to tide votes over to their side with public displays like this? Who wants to be associated with that?
The bumper sticker is a succinct and somewhat amusing expression of frustration and hostility at/ towards Dumbya.
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KK, I assume your kids are so poorly capable of handling cuss words that they'll blush if they see a "Fvck Bush" bumper sticker?
Again, this is nothing more than a parent trying to pass the blame onto someone else for their own actions. If your kids are going to pick up and use four-letter words off a bumper sticker, I'd hate to think what they're going to pick up and use in the thousands of public conversations they'll have in life.
I can't bring myself to even say "ass" in front of parents or family, and I rarely cuss in front of friends, but I'm not going to cover my ears if I hear a four letter word.
Simply shielding them from cuss words their entire lives is as effective as parents who try to sheild their children from sex education their entire lives...poorly adjusted children result.
Again, this is nothing more than a parent trying to pass the blame onto someone else for their own actions. If your kids are going to pick up and use four-letter words off a bumper sticker, I'd hate to think what they're going to pick up and use in the thousands of public conversations they'll have in life.
I can't bring myself to even say "ass" in front of parents or family, and I rarely cuss in front of friends, but I'm not going to cover my ears if I hear a four letter word.
Simply shielding them from cuss words their entire lives is as effective as parents who try to sheild their children from sex education their entire lives...poorly adjusted children result.
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I was'nt allowed to watch R rated movies until, well I was 17 just like the law says. My wife does'nt allow R rated movies in the house today period. So no, you're wrong, they don't "hear it everywhere anyway so its no biggie." It is a big deal to expose public to profanity against thier will. and driving on public street with profane massesages is aginst thier will. I have no problem with smut pedders behind closed doors, or strip clubs or even legal prostitution because all those activities can be done volutatry and with consent/ but driving a broad daylight with profane and/or nudity meesage is involutarly subjecting public to it.
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Hyprocracy:
One day, seatbelt laws should be because it's not up to the goverment to protect us from ourselves...
The next, profanity on bumper stickers needs to be governement enforced removal to protect ourselves from ourselves....
I don't need a bumper sticker....Fvck Bush.
One day, seatbelt laws should be because it's not up to the goverment to protect us from ourselves...
The next, profanity on bumper stickers needs to be governement enforced removal to protect ourselves from ourselves....
I don't need a bumper sticker....Fvck Bush.
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Who cares if it's legal. It's incredibly LAME.
How about "Sodomize Bush"?
I don't think it is lame, I think it's an efficient way of conveying one's general feelings of disdain and disgust re: Bush to the world.
Efficient? How about 14-year-oldish?
The only way it could be any better was if it said, "FVCK BUSH LOLOL!1!!!111!~~~ WTF"
Yes, efficient. By the way, I don't agree that cursing someone you dislike intensely is a thing only teenagers should do. It's for adults as well.
It certainly demonstrates the intellectual nature of the anti-Bush thinker.
I'd guess that almost 100% of so-called anti-Bush thinkers don't have this bumper sticker on their car. Therefore, I would say the bumper sticker demonstrates precisely fvck all about these people as a group.
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Seriously, how do liberals expect to tide votes over to their side with public displays like this? Who wants to be associated with that?
The bumper sticker is a succinct and somewhat amusing expression of frustration and hostility at/ towards Dumbya.[/quote]
The voice of those that make the most noise often shape the stereotypical view of the individuals of that party, no?
Tough sh1t. You cannot reasonably expect the rest of the world to "protect" you from everything YOU find offensive. The bumper sticker is legal. "Fvck Bush" is protected, political speech. Lol.
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Who cares if it's legal. It's incredibly LAME.
How about "Sodomize Bush"?
I don't think it is lame, I think it's an efficient way of conveying one's general feelings of disdain and disgust re: Bush to the world.
Efficient? How about 14-year-oldish?
The only way it could be any better was if it said, "FVCK BUSH LOLOL!1!!!111!~~~ WTF"
Yes, efficient. By the way, I don't agree that cursing someone you dislike intensely is a thing only teenagers should do. It's for adults as well.
It certainly demonstrates the intellectual nature of the anti-Bush thinker.
I'd guess that almost 100% of so-called anti-Bush thinkers don't have this bumper sticker on their car. Therefore, I would say the bumper sticker demonstrates precisely fvck all about these people as a group.
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Seriously, how do liberals expect to tide votes over to their side with public displays like this? Who wants to be associated with that?
The bumper sticker is a succinct and somewhat amusing expression of frustration and hostility at/ towards Dumbya.
The voice of those that make the most noise often shape the stereotypical view of the individuals of that party, no?[/quote]
How is a having a "FVCK BUSH" bumper sticker on one's car "making a lot of noise"? This is a relatively quiet and mild form of protest, to my mind.
BTW I wouldn't necessarily agree that our stereotypical views of political parties are shaped by the noisiest individuals in those parties.
Why did you answer my question with a question?
It's ridiculous and sad. I don't have time to explain it any other way. I have an interest theory test I have to study for.
Wow, what color is the sky on your planet? Now, I grew up quite a while ago, before the proliferation of media exploitation we currently live in. There was no rap music, no cable...hell my first tv was black and white and had 13 channels. My parents didn't allow swearing in the house.
I knew EVERY swear word by kindergarden/1st grade. Every kid does, or at least 99% of them for the last 50 years. ANYONE that thinks they actually are effective at ANY form of shielding their children is delusional.
Wow amazing, were you there when this happened? People dont appreciate all the hard work a cop does.
You want to destroy this cop's life because he told that liberal woman to take the sticker off? Without knowing the man personally your insulting this great cop? WOWIEE
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Why did you answer my question with a question?
I said: I wouldn't necessarily agree that our stereotypical views of political parties are shaped by the noisiest individuals in those parties.
It's ridiculous and sad, but you CAN'T explain why? LOL.
I win.
cops are not there to know all the rules. He did that based on his intinct. If he's wrong, the person in custody or charged will be cleared in no time. I cant understand why some of you want to see cops get fired. I mean destroying anyones life is evil in my opinion. Cops are greatly underpaid, and the amount of hard work they do rarely gets mentioned.
Also 60% of cops (roughly) are "bad" cops.
The rest are a mix of super nice people and everything else in between.
This is according to a cop I know with 7+ years of experience in both a major and smaller cities. He said it's the same everywhere.
To me this isn't a surprise as I work for the government and see the exact same thing. The work we do may be very honorable and it's a "good" job but that doesn't mean those working there are saints. Most of them are pricks, assholes, backstabbers, liars and everything else in between. Mix in a good number of super nice people etc etc. It's like that just about anywhere you work.
Cops are not some sort of super beings that are beyond low morals or stupidity. They are Human.
Don't even TRY to pull that BS with me buddy...I've worked with more law enforcement groups than 90% of the people on these forums...for 13 years I've worked with them, they've been my friends and my collegues. If anyone appreciates the life of a leo more than me I'd love to meet them. So back off.
One of two things are true: 1. he honestly thinks (rightly or not) that the sticker was illegal. If that's true then he handled the entire incident wrong, he abused his power, he has no right to wear a uniform. 2. he knew it wasn't illegal and was spouting his personal venom towards anti-bushers. If that's true then he handled the entire incident wrong, he abused his power, he has no right to wear a uniform.
Cops ARENT more special then anyone else, but they ARE required to hold themselves to higher standard. He failed. Axe him.
BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS
He has power and with that power comes responsibility to use it correctly. Cops are REQUIRED to be correct in action to avoid abuses of the law. Now, if he was ORDERED to act that way by a superior, I'll accept a reduced punishment for him, but otherwise, EVERY cop knows better than that. EVERY one. As a cop you cannot rely on instinct, you have to rely on law. Law, not instinct. Got that???
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:roll: That's just stupid talk or you live in a very currupt area (new orleans, DC?). I have lots of family and close freinds that are PO's and they are just like everyone else, although a little better due to credit, background, psycho, polygraph exam they must go though to get hired. You don't. I did'nt and I have a government clearance. Sure some use a little descression and hold the blue line but in general they are the first class individuals with a very exacting, demanding, risky and underpaid job. I would'nt want it but respect them for doing it.. Everyone has a college diploma. Everyone volunteers.
PC id like to see some corroboraton of this 60% stat..even an opinion piece is fine.,
Yeah call a cop stupid cause he says cops are no different then anybody else. Look whatever you may think toss it out the window. They are Human. Just because someone hasn't done something really "bad" in their life or alienated co-workers or friends before it doesn't mean they never will. No one can help who they are. When I'm saying "bad" cops I'm generalizing.
An example. A bad cop would be someone who rats on a fellow officer on a workplace technicality to score browny points with management because he is on probation (new officer). Think it never happens? hah
I have a friend who was a CO (Correctional Officer) and said the same thing.
Same thing happens anywhere else I worked.
FYI I didn't have to take a polygraph but if I had even the slightest blemish on my spotless record I would lose my security clearance.
That doesn't mean I'm suddenly a saint. It means I haven't done anything to technically break the law. That's all. It doesn't mean I'm a good or nice person. So when I'm talking about "bad cop" I'm being general. It doesn't mean they are breaking the law although that's obviously included.
This is absolutely wrong. Cops are definately there to know the rules. Under ordinary circumstances unless a cop believes there is an immenent safety issue or something of the sort at stake, the cop can get on his car radio and ask the people down at police headquarters whether some's action broke the law or not if the cop is uncertain on the matter. Cops frequently arresting people for things they "think" were illegal according to their insticts creates an atmosphere of fear where people are afraid of getting arrested for rather arbitrary reasons rather than breaking the law. Even a temperary arrest can be a humiliating and intimidating process that people want to avoid.
In the case in question, the cop was actually off duty when he heard a complaint from another person offended by the bumper sticker. The cop should have either declined to get involved, or arranged for an on duty cop to get involved and determine whether a crime had been commited. In particular, the warning to the lady not to be seen in the area again or she would be arrested positivily reeks of intimidation and was definately the wrong way to handle the situation.
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