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Got a P4 rambus setup: sell or keep?

ahsia

Golden Member
I recently acquired a P4 rambus setup. It is the ABIT TH7II board with w/ 2 sticks of 512mb Kingston ValuRAM PC800. If I were to keep it, I was going to get the P4 2.26B, and overclock the heck out of it. So here are my questions:

1. Should I keep it, or sell it and try to get a P4 DDR setup with newer memory
2. If I do keep it, how well will this setup overclock?
3. Will the ABIT TH7II work with a 533MHz bus P4?

Thanks for your help!
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
you sure must like playing 3dMark
How does that help him at all with his question? First, he never said ANYTHING about 3DMark, secondly, I don't know why some people get so hot about it whenever anybody mentions it. It's a benchmark some people like to use...so what?

ahsia, in response to your questions, the TH7II has a 400MHz bus. You'll be able to use a 533 processor, but only at 400 FSB. From what I gather, the Rambus setup will be faster, and overclocking shouldn't be that hard. If you didn't pay too much for this setup, I'd say try it out and see how well it performs. I think that in general a Rambus setup will perform a little better than DDR.
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Originally posted by: tweakmm
you sure must like playing 3dMark
How does that help him at all with his question? First, he never said ANYTHING about 3DMark, secondly, I don't know why some people get so hot about it whenever anybody mentions it. It's a benchmark some people like to use...so what?
what real world difference is he going to see from switching from his RAMBUS setup with a DDR setup? Maybe his wallet will feel a bit lighter...
I didn't mean to take a jab at 3dmark, I should have said "I hope you like playing benchmarks"
 
I agree with vetteguy... you won't see much of a difference from your Rambus setup to DDR setup... it should overclock well... try it out first... then if it's no good for you... sell it and go with a 533 DDR solution... or 1066 Rambus (get a bandaid for your wallet)... I don't know if your board is compatible with 533MHz Rambus... but if you plan to upgrade the memory anyway... switch to DDR and save a few dollars... I reiterate... the performance difference is somewhat negligable...

EDIT: Unless you enjoy memory bandwidth benchies... hehe...
 
There are two versions of the Th7II RAID, one has good clock generators, one has bad. The good clock genreator version should allow you to take a 2.26B up to 150+ with a 4X RDRAM multiplier if the RAM can handle it. What i'd like to ask you is this. How old is the RAM? Most recent ram should hit PC1066 fine as long as it's double sided. Or low density, as we would say. In that situation, you could have a rig that would hit 166X3, since the i850 chipset seems to have a better time with higher bus speeds than even the i845D. 😀

What *I* would reccomend, is that chances are those RDRAM sticks are high density, and thus will overclock like crap. See how high you can get them. You might have the version with bad clock generators. Where is Daovonnaex when you need him? If you can't hit high, look on a site like Atacom.com for special low density memory, then overclock the snot out of that.

He took a 1.6A up to 2.6GHZ with a 4X RDRAM multiplier. PC1333 as you would say. The stuff of dreams! 😀
 
RDRAM prices have gone down, and with PC1066, there is certainly a speed gain in memory intensive apps (3D gaming namely). On the other hand, DDR prices have gone up as of late.. so I say keep what you have and go for it. If you have a TH7II with a bad clock gen, get the Gigabyte 8IHXP or Asus P4T533-C and see where you go.
 
Well, I have been trying to sell this setup, but no one seems to be interested. So I figure with 2 sticks of 512mb, if I get a P4 Northwood, it should be a pretty fast system. I have a P4 1.6A, I'll have to try and stick it in the TH7II with the Kingston ValuRAM and see how much I can overclock it. The only problem I see is if it doesn't have clock well, I might have to just settle with stock CPU speed, since no one seems to be interested in this setup. I'll give this a shot and see, post results later.... thanks for the suggestions!
 
Originally posted by: FishTankX
There are two versions of the Th7II RAID, one has good clock generators, one has bad. The good clock genreator version should allow you to take a 2.26B up to 150+ with a 4X RDRAM multiplier if the RAM can handle it. What i'd like to ask you is this. How old is the RAM? Most recent ram should hit PC1066 fine as long as it's double sided. Or low density, as we would say. In that situation, you could have a rig that would hit 166X3, since the i850 chipset seems to have a better time with higher bus speeds than even the i845D. 😀

What *I* would reccomend, is that chances are those RDRAM sticks are high density, and thus will overclock like crap. See how high you can get them. You might have the version with bad clock generators. Where is Daovonnaex when you need him? If you can't hit high, look on a site like Atacom.com for special low density memory, then overclock the snot out of that.

He took a 1.6A up to 2.6GHZ with a 4X RDRAM multiplier. PC1333 as you would say. The stuff of dreams! 😀


BTW, how do you tell if memory is low or high density?
 
The heck?

Abit TH7 II is the BEST RDRAM overclocking board period. They can handle up to a 250Mhz FSB. Since most TH7 II's DRCG's are poor quality, you should make sure you get a good one (or at least modded with proper DRCG's). If you dont care about Rambus frequency, then just run it at 3X. Heck, using a 2.26b, 17x175 FSB = about 3Ghz with an RDRam at PC1050 (with 3X multiplier).
 
Originally posted by: dexvx
The heck?

Abit TH7 II is the BEST RDRAM overclocking board period. They can handle up to a 250Mhz FSB. Since most TH7 II's DRCG's are poor quality, you should make sure you get a good one (or at least modded with proper DRCG's). If you dont care about Rambus frequency, then just run it at 3X. Heck, using a 2.26b, 17x175 FSB = about 3Ghz with an RDRam at PC1050 (with 3X multiplier).

Questions:

1. How can I tell if I the TH7-II I have has a good DRCG?
2. If I do not have a good TH7-II, how hard is it to mod it with the proper DRCG?
3. What is DRCG? Any documentation on this for me to read up on?

I don't really care about RDRAM frequency, I just want a good performing machine. I don't really care about benchmarks either, I really want to see real world performance. Thanks for all the help!
 
Originally posted by: ahsia
Questions:

1. How can I tell if I the TH7-II I have has a good DRCG?
2. If I do not have a good TH7-II, how hard is it to mod it with the proper DRCG?
3. What is DRCG? Any documentation on this for me to read up on?

I don't really care about RDRAM frequency, I just want a good performing machine. I don't really care about benchmarks either, I really want to see real world performance. Thanks for all the help!

Some good info on your questions regarding DRCGs and Rdram/P4 combos.

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