Gore got a 1355 on the SAT and Bush got a 1206

[Regine]

<< << and they are white, lol... the test is so discriminatory towards their favor >> >>



They are extremely biased toward a mainstream population. Any minority group is more likely to do worse on standardized tests than white students. The way that questions are asked, what type of questions are asked, and especially timing the test are generally geared toward how mainstream and white students learn and take tests. There are many different teaching and learning styles, but since standardized tests are only geared toward a traditional teaching style, many kids are at a disadvantage when taking it.

Hope that explained it a little, 8008S!

 

[ICyourNipple]

i don't see how having a time limit is in favor of whites. taking care of problems efficiently, and in quick matter is a great skill to have.

 

[Rakkis]

I think you get 200 for just writting in your name.

 

[Rakkis]

ugh. sorry. i went click happy

 

[xtreme2k]

i am not too familiar with this SAT score thingy

what is the max score you can get?
what is the mean score?

 

[astroview]

1600 is the highest, they want the average to be a 1000

when these guys took it, the test was supposedly harder, so I was told you need to add on about 10% or 100 points to compare older scores with newer ones

 

[Rakkis]

Whoever &quot;they&quot; are dont *want* the average to be 1000. It just happens to be that way because our school systems aren't really that good at teaching analytical reasoning to kids. That's what the SAT tests for anyway.

Public school, at least as of 3 yrs ago in my HS days, was mainly &quot;swallow this, learn that, memorize this other thing&quot;

 

[hans007]

first off recentering sucked, since it added like 100 to all the average and low people. High scoring types really didnt add that much, maybe like 40. Anyways, you get like 400, since you know if you answer a question wrong you get like 1/4 off or something. So if you get them all wrong you could get a 0. If they didnt start you with any you could get like negative which would be sad. SATS measure logical thinking skills, like how to solve problems. How easily you can cancel out logically wrong answers, and comprehend. Kids these days barely can solve those dreaded &quot;word problems&quot; in math, that it is not unexpected that they would do so bad on average.
Assuming you had a big enough vocabulary to read all the words in the questions which most people who take the test dont, since well people now can barely read at a decent speed let alone have a vocabulary compared to the 60s. Public school is basically shove crap up your ass, memorize it all, and test on it, and do some BS homework along the way. Good teachers scare their kids more and make them work harder, but most of them don't deviate from the shove material up ass method.

And its not supposed to be a test that says how well you'll do in life. Its supposed to be for how well you do in college, only because people who score more GENERALLY do better , and there is a high corellation. I'm a lazy ass and have always been and i think that you do have to work hard to do well, pure mental talent will only get you so far. Plus gifted people generally dont wanna work as hard, since they can do whatever they are gifted at so easily that they are not accustomed to working hard (my theory anyways). Also as far as i know , its by 10s. Both of those guys didnt score all that high, geniuses dont become politicians. Imaging how evil and cunning a genius would be as a politician, scary huh? A genius wouldn't contradict himself as much as these two have

 

[burnedout]

I outscored the Governor of my state on the SAT.

He earns more money than I do. So much for the score.

Jokes aside, it's amazing what kind of information surfaces about the candidates just before election day.

 

[DABANSHEE]

&quot;wtf, they're stupid... damn morons can't even get over 1400&quot;

Your the fuking idiot Mday, can't you follow a thread? Didn't you see Snow's post, 3 posts before yours - &quot;Yeah, gotta love that recentering (ie they added 100 points to everyone's score). Just goes to show you how stupid the <sarcasm>Land of the Free</sarcasm>is&quot;

Do you want me to explain that to you? It means that Gores SAT of 1355 is equilivant of a contempory SAT score of 1500+, while Bush's SAT of 1206 is about the same as a SAT of 1330+ today. Well something like that, the difference is probably even greater, because the SATs have beein recentred at least 2 or 3 times since them (I have American relatives who are school teachers &amp; I remember thewm talking about it one day)

The same thing happened here in Australia with the HSC, which is based on 10 units of work &amp; with a perfect score of 50 per unit it works out at a perfect score of 500. Well back when I did the HSC the median score was 250, with the scores formimg a bell curve of a chart. Well the teachers union complained that students who got an average score didnt like getting a mark of 250 out of 500, so the scaling was re-centred. So a 350 became the median score. Which means that someone in my day who got 250, did just as well in relation to other sitting the same years as someone who gets 350 today.

Really comparing current SAT scores with the ones of 30 years ago is like comparing chalk 'n cheese, it just doesnt work. I know whith HSC scores one shouldnt even compare different years Because the HSC scores are only in relation to others sitting the same year. So if all the students sitting one year were particully brighter (on average) than all the kids sitting the following year, then the bloke who got a scaled agregate of 240 the earlier year, probably did better in the actual examines than someone getting 260 the following year.

 

[Impact55]

<< Gore was a photographer in Vietnam for six months >>



WOW. That really compares to a pilot..... LOL

 

[ride525]

<< Bush was an F104 pilot in war time.What was Gore? >>



Where....in the Air National Guard? C'mon......and apparently he wasn't always there......some exerpts from recent story:



<< The remarks were in response to a Globe article this week showing that Bush stopped flying after 22 months within his unit of the Texas Air National Guard. Further, the article reported, Bush failed to show up for required Guard drills during a six-month stay in Alabama, and he was lax even after returning to Houston. >>



And Bush won't talk about it....just like his past drug use...



<< Bush has refused to be interviewed by the Globe on the topic of his military service. His spokesman, Dan Bartlett, yesterday called the questions about the governor a &quot;scurrilous charge&quot; of a &quot;desperate&quot; Gore campaign. >>



Why does Bush keep blaming Gore campaign for his problems......

 

[Wedesdo]

yes - sat's mean nothing. so doesn't iq scores.

I got a 1460 on the sat in 9th grade, yet i'm a total idiot.