What non biased observers seem to agree on is that more people in Florida went to the polls to vote for Gore than to vote for Bush. Bush had three chances to get a total recount of the state. He refused three times because it suited his interests not because he gives a sh!t about what the voters actually want. It is Bush that has shown himself to be the characterless reprobate (with a new haircut and suit) that he really is. If he wins he will have done so having lost the popular vote of the country and Florida. He doesn't even have the political statesmanship to meet with Gore to reassure the American people that the issues should be decided legally not by passion. He is cracking under the stress, like Chaney. Sad little puppet. We'll get the leader we deserve, that's for sure.
>>What non biased observers seem to agree on is that more people in Florida went to the polls to vote for Gore than to vote for Bush.<<
Odd how all these non biased observers are democrats.
>> Bush had three chances to get a total recount of the state. He refused three times because it suited his interests not because he gives a sh!t about what the voters actually want. <<
I still don't get how what Bush requesting/not requesting a recount has to do with sh!t... Algoron is the one who protested the election results. It was a statewide election. He never should have been allowed to protest ballot counts in only counties where he won the county by wide margins. The ethical position has always been that a protest is lodged where one loses... It remains quite odd that Algoron only chose to protest in counties where his party controlled the election machinery.
Algoron is a liar & cheat. He lied in the debates. His lead atty lied before the Fl supreme court.
Now that is a sad example !
Odd how all these non biased observers are democrats.
>> Bush had three chances to get a total recount of the state. He refused three times because it suited his interests not because he gives a sh!t about what the voters actually want. <<
I still don't get how what Bush requesting/not requesting a recount has to do with sh!t... Algoron is the one who protested the election results. It was a statewide election. He never should have been allowed to protest ballot counts in only counties where he won the county by wide margins. The ethical position has always been that a protest is lodged where one loses... It remains quite odd that Algoron only chose to protest in counties where his party controlled the election machinery.
Algoron is a liar & cheat. He lied in the debates. His lead atty lied before the Fl supreme court.
Now that is a sad example !
Unbiased means non party emotionalized. Such people can be of any party or none. The ethical position is that the will of the people should prevail over the wish of one party. More people in Florida went to the polls to vote for Gore. Anyone who wants the election to go to Bush in spite of this fact, gets there by the crooked path. Whatever happens, Gore was the real winner. The great unjustice will be if Bush wins. The winning majority will be cheated of their choice. We are at the moment where we lie or confess what we did with Monica. Isn't easy is it?
And once again in the endless saga, Moonbeam loads his liberal crap-gun and starts mericlessly firing into the crowd....
if you believe that bull sheat moonbeam I feel truly sorry for you.
It is quite obvious that gore is incompetent and will never be a sucessful leader..he is a big whining baby that wants to sue everyone and will lie cheat and steal his way into office
Right about now if he does get in I wouldn't be surprised if there is another scandal within the next year.
Gore is a joke, plain and simple and if he does steal and cheat his way in Canada is looking a heck of a lot better, just have to learn how to say Eeh after every sentence.
if you believe that bull sheat moonbeam I feel truly sorry for you.
It is quite obvious that gore is incompetent and will never be a sucessful leader..he is a big whining baby that wants to sue everyone and will lie cheat and steal his way into office
Right about now if he does get in I wouldn't be surprised if there is another scandal within the next year.
Gore is a joke, plain and simple and if he does steal and cheat his way in Canada is looking a heck of a lot better, just have to learn how to say Eeh after every sentence.
No !!!
the only crooked path is that of the pseudo moral Moonbeam that supports the proven liar & cheat algoron
Your definition is hogwash !!!
Algoron is the real liar...
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One of Algoron's lies in the debates.
Algoron came to Sarasota during the debates & stayed for several days. He met with a number of local people. He met with a family with a teen daughter in high school. The daughter is in a magnet school with everything new & up to date. She is taking advanced placement classes. One of the cream of the crop schools with low teacher student /ratios ( no more than 1 to 20 ).
Algoron, in the debates, used the girls name & her as an example of the poor educational system that he intended to change. He talked about crowded class rooms, high teacher /student ratios, poorly equipted facilities, etc, etc.
All of his talk was a BS made up story that was a blatant lie. He could have talked about education in general & have been accurate. Rather, he choose to lie & use a personal example that could have not been farther from the truth.
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The only cheating is from the goron minions that have tried to subvert the election process by changing the rules after the election.
Nice how you bring up Algoron's mentor, His fine moral & ethical teacher, that great slime, Billy Clinton.
the only crooked path is that of the pseudo moral Moonbeam that supports the proven liar & cheat algoron
Your definition is hogwash !!!
Algoron is the real liar...
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One of Algoron's lies in the debates.
Algoron came to Sarasota during the debates & stayed for several days. He met with a number of local people. He met with a family with a teen daughter in high school. The daughter is in a magnet school with everything new & up to date. She is taking advanced placement classes. One of the cream of the crop schools with low teacher student /ratios ( no more than 1 to 20 ).
Algoron, in the debates, used the girls name & her as an example of the poor educational system that he intended to change. He talked about crowded class rooms, high teacher /student ratios, poorly equipted facilities, etc, etc.
All of his talk was a BS made up story that was a blatant lie. He could have talked about education in general & have been accurate. Rather, he choose to lie & use a personal example that could have not been farther from the truth.
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The only cheating is from the goron minions that have tried to subvert the election process by changing the rules after the election.
Nice how you bring up Algoron's mentor, His fine moral & ethical teacher, that great slime, Billy Clinton.
If I was Bush I wouldn't meet with Gore either ... I wouldn't want to be seen in public with him. The constitution says nothing about popular vote ... it says electorial votes are what wins it. Thats the way it is. If he loses this certified count today he should just deal with it. He is just making himself out to be an a$$. His party won't want to touch him next election ... which means it will probably be a choice between Bush again or Hillary god forbid. I can't respect any woman who will let her husband humilate her in front of a whole nation and still stand beside him. If e_mc_2 ever did something like that ... he would be sooooooo in trouble and sooo out the door ... luckily he's not that kind of man.
Thats o.k. guys,tell yourself whatever it takes to make you believe Bush won. But you know different in the recesses of your craniums. Denial would be the word I would use right now. Exit polls are just about always on target,and they showed Gore winning by 1%. Thats exactly what he would have won by if all the votes had been counted. So you just keep telling yourselves Bush won,when facts and statistics tell you different,we understand your dilemma,your guy must win at all costs. Don't you also wonder why in every election but two,the guy who won the popular vote won the electoral college also? Stop feeding people all of YOUR bullsh@t. Moonbeam is pretty much right in what he said,so don't dismiss it as being lieral unless you want us to dismiss you as those who have never worked a day in their lives but were born into money. You can't label someone because their party choice,it is not an accurate assesment, except to use as a tool for name calling.
<< ...those who have never worked a day in their lives but were born into money >>
And now everyone knows what your opinion of Republicans is.
Bush camp will certainly contest results too......Yesterday they dropped one suit and filed five more. And they are contesting all the way to Supreme court.....
Gore chose to enter the Court system to try to pull a "victory?" out of the muddy morass.
The voting booth is the best place to determine these matters.
The Supreme Court of the United States of America.....will clean it up and finish it.
The voting booth is the best place to determine these matters.
The Supreme Court of the United States of America.....will clean it up and finish it.
now we have come, to whine his case, little apegoron, unhappy with the democrat manipulated vote totals & wants us to look at exit polls.
I will happily take that one on. The exit polls showed that 1% of the Florida voters did not select a presidential preference. That goes with Palm Beach with about 9,000 undeclared vote cards. 1.5 % undeclared.
So do we go with little apegoron, (LAG) & rely on the exit polls ?
BTW LAG seems appropriate in the current context, also to be known as "a little behind".
What do I know in my cranium ? & in my GUT ?
I know that a SOB that will lie about a girl in HS to sound good in a debate & will accept a lie in a a presentation to a court on my behalf is a lowlife.
People that do such things are not to be trusted. When one is in public office ( Algoron ) & lies to the people, he is a slime.
In my personal experience, some one that lies to me in public, has no qualms about cheating me, stealing from me, & lying to me again.
You can disagree with me on every issue, every thing from the color of the sky to who should be king & I will support your right to disagree & fight for you if you are attacked unjustly, even tho I disagree with you.
Lie to me & Hell has no depths to hide you from my disgust.
Algoron is a proven liar. He has no honor. He should slink away like the low scum that he has proven himself to be, & hide his shame.
I will happily take that one on. The exit polls showed that 1% of the Florida voters did not select a presidential preference. That goes with Palm Beach with about 9,000 undeclared vote cards. 1.5 % undeclared.
So do we go with little apegoron, (LAG) & rely on the exit polls ?
BTW LAG seems appropriate in the current context, also to be known as "a little behind".
What do I know in my cranium ? & in my GUT ?
I know that a SOB that will lie about a girl in HS to sound good in a debate & will accept a lie in a a presentation to a court on my behalf is a lowlife.
People that do such things are not to be trusted. When one is in public office ( Algoron ) & lies to the people, he is a slime.
In my personal experience, some one that lies to me in public, has no qualms about cheating me, stealing from me, & lying to me again.
You can disagree with me on every issue, every thing from the color of the sky to who should be king & I will support your right to disagree & fight for you if you are attacked unjustly, even tho I disagree with you.
Lie to me & Hell has no depths to hide you from my disgust.
Algoron is a proven liar. He has no honor. He should slink away like the low scum that he has proven himself to be, & hide his shame.
There are many ways to lie. One can exagerate to effect. One can make a mistake. One can not say where he was the last year and a half of his escape from Viet Nam in the Guard refuge, or why no physical. One can say that he didn't mention having been arrested for drunk driving because he didn't want to set a bad example for his kids and then get caught out and claim that his admission is a sign of leadership. Which is it leadership or bad example. One can be willing to assume office knowing that he did everything in his power not to allow out in the open the fact more people went to the polls to vote for his opponent. A Bush presidency will be the BIG LIE. If the Supreme court goes against Bush, it will just be the opinion of 9 more biased people. Hehe! If they go for him, I pray he doesn't do the lousy job many of you hope Gore does and I suspect Bush is only capable of doing. I don't give a fig about Gore in the abstract. I see him as being the BETTER choice for the country generally. A majority of voters agree. A majority in Florida, too.
<< A majority of voters agree. >>
One more time...there are rules established before, the election.
The Electoral College and it's votes, will rule the day.
If that is not acceptable, then change it before the next election, this one has been decided.
Ok, the recount is now in effect, over, and Bush has once again won the recount Gore fought for in the FL Supreme Court, and the decision they prounounced has "only fair" & "the will of the people" when it was handed down.....regulations set forth and all! Now, it seems, they don't like the regulations, or the outcome, so, we will now have the Vice President of OUR United States, the Democratic Candidate for President of OUR United States Sueing possibly 4 Heavily Democratic Florida Counties! As the CNN Commentator just reported "this will not sit well with the Democratic Party and Democrats in this country as a whole!"
Bober, there are a couple of ways that you can examine the partisan thingi. Red Dawn points out that both sides are idiotic. I think he's right. However, since I see this election as reflecting a power struggle between two culture types, the old and the emerging, and because I have always favored the less powerful, I have a natural affection for those who get called the left. I see no real answers in the political. The work that humanity requires is spiritual, conscious evolution. We have to learn to understand who we are and how we work. Unless we see that we are stuffed full of ourselves, we can't take the first step to wisdom. I like to show what a person looks like who is stuffed full of himself to those who are stuffed full of themselves on the other side by allowing them to see what they look like. It's fun to be as stupid and inane as the opposition and watch them go mad. When people get far enough out on their limbs, they sometimes break off. We need to laugh at ourselves. The world is beautiful. Die laga is hofnungsloss aber nicht ernst or something like that. "The situation is hopeless but not serious."
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