GOP win in Hawaii is meaningless

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zsdersw

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.. but you wouldn't know that listening to Michael Steele.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/theg...a-republican-wins-in-blue-hawaii-so-what.aspx

A Republican Wins in Blue Hawaii. So What?
Andrew Romano
And so it ends, not with a bang but a whimper.

Yesterday, Honolulu City Councilman Charles Djou, a Republican, won the special election in Hawaii's 1st Congressional District to replace Rep. Neil Abercrombine, breaking a Democratic streak that includes victories in all seven House special elections (NY-20, IL-5, CA-32, CA-10, NY-23, FL-19, PA-12) held since President Obama's inauguration 16 months ago.

Predictably, the GOP reacted by thumping its chest. "Charles's victory is evidence his conservative message of lowering the tax burden, job creation and government accountability knows no party lines," said RNC Chairman Michael Steele. "It is a message Americans want to hear from candidates across the country." In an effort to further inflate Djou's win, other Republicans have pointed out that the seat is located in Obama's hometown and that no Republican has won there in 20 years.

All of which is well and good--in terms of spin. But how meaningful is Djou's victory, really?

Not very. When Democrat Mark Critz upset Republican Tim Burns to win the late Jack Murtha's spot in the House last week, liberals were quick to claim that the results portended a stronger-than-expected showing for Democrats in November. But we here at Gaggle world headquarters immediately noted the obvious:

In the right-leaning 12th, Critz's win was impressive, and given that it was the only race of the night that actually previewed November's key contests—a Democrat vs. a Republican in a swing district—it was perhaps the most revealing as well. Still, Critz won because he had strong union support in a low-turnout race, and he said he would've voted against health-care reform. Unless Dems think they can re-create these conditions everywhere else, they should probably keep their expectations for November relatively low.

The same idea--that "regardless of the larger forces at work, elections are ultimately all about specific candidates in specific environments"--applies in Hawaii as well. Sure, voters are upset with Washington. And yes, Djou ran a disciplined campaign. But his election says less about the national mood or the Republicanization of Honolulu than the particular conditions of the contest in question. Yesterday, the Democratic vote was split between two fueding Democratic candidates: Colleen Hanabusa, who finished second with 30.8 percent of the vote, and former Congressman Case, who placed third with 27.6 percent. Because the race was winner-take-all, Djou was able to declare victory with a paltry 39.4 percent plurality--which is nearly 20 percentage points less than the combined Democratic vote of 58.4 percent. Needless to say, Djou wouldn't have stood a chance in a district that Obama won 70-28 percent if he'd faced a single Democratic foe.

Still, yesterday victory's is a nice little talking point for the GOP, which gets to boast about winning Obama's hometown for at least another few hours. The celebration will be short-lived, however. Abercrombie's term will expire in November, which means that Djou will be back on the ballot. And he won't have the same advantages he had this time. On Sept. 18, Hanabusa and Case face off in the Democratic primary. Unless two nominees somehow emerge, I suspect that Republicans will have their work cut out for them in November.

He's also right about the Dem win in PA.
 

NesuD

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I am most definately not a liberal but I have to agree that some of the conservative rejoicing over the win in Hawaii is probably premature. I think there was a very good chance he would have lost had the dems not split their votes. That said he does have an opportunity to prove himself before the November elections and try to swing some of those votes over from whichever Dem candidate he ends up running against. Should be interesting to watch.
 

cubby1223

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Yeah well New York's 23rd congressional district went Democratic because the Republicans split their vote - and still all "progressives" and especially Nancy Pelosi got up and declared the victory a huge political victory and a mandate for Obamacare.

So which is it? Races are of immense important when your preferred letter wins, but always meaningless when the letter you hate wins?

Let Steele have his moment and just move on with your life. Politics is seriously bordering on pathetic, if it's not come to that already here in AT P&N.
 

zsdersw

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Yeah well New York's 23rd congressional district went Democratic because the Republicans split their vote - and still all "progressives" and especially Nancy Pelosi got up and declared the victory a huge political victory and a mandate for Obamacare.

So which is it? Races are of immense important when your preferred letter wins, but always meaningless when the letter you hate wins?

Let Steele have his moment and just move on with your life. Politics is seriously bordering on pathetic, if it's not come to that already here in AT P&N.

:rolleyes: I guess you missed the comment I put under the quote, where I said that the Dem win in PA wasn't all that significant either. It's easier for you to accuse me of having a "preferred letter".
 

ProfJohn

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Hawaii was meaningless.

NY was meaningless.

PA was meaningless (a pro-life, pro-gun Democrat???)

There are races that aren't meaningless and the Democrats aren't doing so well in those. MA Senate, NJ+VA governor.

It is going to be a very bad year for the Democrats. The only real question is whether the Republicans can take control of the House and Senate. But even if they don't the Obama agenda comes to a halt next Jan when he will not have enough votes to break any Republican filibusters nor will it only take a couple of Republican crossovers to break one.

I think we are going to see two years of gridlock until 2012.
 

blackangst1

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All of which is well and good--in terms of spin. But how meaningful is Djou's victory, really?

Not very.

And how meaningful was the Dem's majority congressional wins in 2006? Not very, apperently.
 

cubby1223

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Here is the truth, all elections have meaning.

Though what the proper perspective is, rarely if ever is found in the party cheerleaders that fill the airwaves.
 

her209

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Here is the truth, all elections have meaning.

Though what the proper perspective is, rarely if ever is found in the party cheerleaders that fill the airwaves.
Agreed. It taught us that you don't win elections by splitting your votes.
 
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