GOP voters in Colorado vs. the all-MAGA school board they elected

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LOLOL. Reap what you fucking sow.


A new school board quickly enacted its agenda in Woodland Park. Now teachers are leaving and the board faces growing opposition, including from lifelong GOP voters.


Some quotes:
- “I think they look at us as this petri dish where they can really push all their agenda and theories,” said Joe Dohrn, a Woodland Park father who described himself as a staunch Republican and “very capitalistic.” “They clearly are willing to sacrifice the public school and to put students presently in the public school through years of disarray to drive home their ideological beliefs. It’s a travesty.”
- Teachers grew particularly alarmed early this year when word spread that Ken Witt, the new superintendent, did not plan to reapply for grants that covered the salaries of counselors and social workers. Witt told staff members he prioritized academic achievement, not students’ emotions. “We are not the department of health and human services,” he said, as teachers angrily objected, according to two recordings of the meeting made by staff members and shared with NBC News.
- As the school year winds down, many of the Woodland Park School District’s employees are heading for the exit, despite recently receiving an 8% raise. At least four of the district’s top administrators have quit because of the board’s policy changes, according to interviews and emails obtained through records requests. Nearly 40% of the high school’s professional staff have said they will not return next school year, according to an administrator in the district.
- At the first board meeting in January with Witt as superintendent, the board voted to adopt the American Birthright social studies curriculum standard. No social studies teachers had been consulted prior to the vote, according to three current employees and an administrator who asked to speak anonymously to protect their employment. American Birthright materials emphasize patriotism, argue that the federal government should have no authority over public schools and say teachers should not encourage civic engagement, such as registering to vote or petitioning local lawmakers on issues students care about. “It is terribly important to be a disengaged citizen, and indeed, a disengaged student,” said David Randall, research director at the National Association of Scholars, a conservative organization that created the standards last year.

LOL…that last bit? That’s how you prep a population to be obedient fascists and obey your masters. When will conservative voters fucking learn? It’s all fun and games when you mess with the “urban” school districts in downtown Denver or Boulder, but no, you fucked around and found out on your own turf!! Conservatives don’t respect public institutions. They suck them dry of tax dollars like vampires and destroy them.
 

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Part and parcel of keeping their youth in line with the "traditional" anachronistic ideology of the supremacists of whom are passionately intent on not only keeping their racist yearnings alive, they want their hatred to spread out as far and as wide as possible to so as to make themselves "feel comfortable" about themselves and their surroundings.

Education of the kind that is accurate and truthful broadens the perspectives of our youth. It broadens their worldview of things. That's a very bad thing for those who want to imprison, to shackle the minds of not only their own children but of those other kids who could influence their children into believing that it's OK to have friends and loved ones of different cultures and physical features.

This thing where the GOP has decided that it's fine to embrace and welcome the nation's racists with open arms into the fold as a means to separate, isolate and unify their members against the rest of the nation as a means to remain politically relevant is going to prove without doubt that they are on the wrong side of history and one of the main reasons for their demise.
 
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They are reaping what they have sown, and the community will suffer years because of it.

It certainly doesn't help that this country has way too many elected positions that often have votes that fall on one of too many election days.
 

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They created this problem for themselves, why don't they get themselves out of it? Instead of complaining and whining about it, they should do something about. If they are unhappy with direction of the new school board, they should just recall all the school board members. Otherwise, they are just quietly being complicit by complaining and taking no action against the school board members.
 

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Not sure if that's the case there, but kooky maga school board candidates in Oregon have gotten crafty. In 2020 I believe, some in Beaverton were openly taking donations from Proud Boys and got absolutely trounced. Now they use little code words to disguise their ultra reactionary book banning anti-teacher views ("parents rights" etc). Voters must be ever vigilant against them now.
 

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“It is terribly important to be a disengaged citizen, and indeed, a disengaged student,” said David Randall, research director at the National Association of Scholars, a conservative organization that created the standards last year.

WTF is this BS...sounds like an Onion piece
 

tweaker2

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They created this problem for themselves, why don't they get themselves out of it? Instead of complaining and whining about it, they should do something about. If they are unhappy with direction of the new school board, they should just recall all the school board members. Otherwise, they are just quietly being complicit by complaining and taking no action against the school board members.


I fully agree with your comments on this topic, however the problem with taking decisive action against the School Board is that those folks who want the board to reflect the attitudes of the general population of the area and not that of those far right wing reactionaries that are there is the threats, the ostracizing, the shaming and the alienating of those folks who think those board members are going way too far in their right wing ideological pursuits. As the saying goes, the nail that sticks out from the board will get pounded down to conform with the others (whose heads are already buried deep in the wood).
 

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“It is terribly important to be a disengaged citizen, and indeed, a disengaged student,” said David Randall, research director at the National Association of Scholars, a conservative organization that created the standards last year.

WTF is this BS...sounds like an Onion piece
Yeah I read that, and then promptly closed the window thinking I had read enough on the internet for the day. Yikes. I don't even know what to make of that statement. I *have* to think there's a missing "not" in there somewhere.
 

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Not sure if that's the case there, but kooky maga school board candidates in Oregon have gotten crafty. In 2020 I believe, some in Beaverton were openly taking donations from Proud Boys and got absolutely trounced. Now they use little code words to disguise their ultra reactionary book banning anti-teacher views ("parents rights" etc). Voters must be ever vigilant against them now
One of the worst parts of today's campaign finance laws is that they allow private education monied interests to secretly get public school officials elected for the purpose of defunding public education.
 

Zorba

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This is why important to vote party line Democrat so Republicans don't take any seats. You can't even trust them to be dog catchers.
I think school boards are almost always non-partisan. So you have to actually research what they are saying. I am so thankfully all these maga fucks lost in the last election. IN my zone the non-crazy won by like ~25 votes. Way too close for comfort.
 

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The same republicans also thought the abortion issue would blow over. a year later and they've realized they fucked up.
 
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Yeah I read that, and then promptly closed the window thinking I had read enough on the internet for the day. Yikes. I don't even know what to make of that statement. I *have* to think there's a missing "not" in there somewhere.

See, how terribly important it is to be a disengaged citizen? They literally are raging about knowledge ruining their bullshit made up utopia (that never existed - even in their own minds), hence they want everyone to do the same and go back to blissful ignorance so that they can continue all the racist/sexist/fucked up bullshit that conservatives do.

I think school boards are almost always non-partisan. So you have to actually research what they are saying. I am so thankfully all these maga fucks lost in the last election. IN my zone the non-crazy won by like ~25 votes. Way too close for comfort.

I don't think that's ever actually been true, but it was an old sham that we used to prop up under the guise of it being good for kids to keep politics outta sight. Kinda like how parents used to stay together instead of getting divorced "for the kids". But now there's shitloads of these batshit insane right wingers running on various layers of nonsense they've been screaming about (be it anti-trans/LGBTQ, anti-"PC", "fixing liberal bias in schools, etc.) so the partisanship isn't only not hidden its the cornerstone of what they're trying to achieve (whilst they scream about brainswashing...). Hence what we see here, and we see exactly why this is shitty.

I genuinely don't know how to unfuck American education at this point. From morons like Louis CK trashing common core because he doesn't understand pictographs, to Betsy DeVos, to working to undo lots of longterm damage from policies that were obviously going to lead to problems (No Child Left Behind, enabling vouchers for private schools, rise of for profit charter schools, cost of college and student loan debt, issues like parents having to prep to try to get their kids in the best schools starting before preschool even these days).

The same republicans also thought the abortion issue would blow over. a year later and they've realized they fucked up.

I don't think the rank and file Republicans thought that, and in fact I think polling shows they didn't support banning abortion that much, likely because they know its shitty and would be awful for them politically. Its just the insane shitheads who they did too little too late to try and stop that pushed that shit through. The rank and file thought they could leverage it but didn't think it'd actually happen (kinda like Brexit where the conservatives admitted they didn't think it'd actually pass and actually didn't really want it, it was a ploy to try and galvanize political will). What we're seeing here is the exact same thing we saw when they voted in Republicans who kept promising to abolish Obamacare (and allegedly that would fix health care and/or they'd do "something better") only for them to realize Republicans didn't have any actual plan other than just straight fucking over people. Same here, they bought into the endless stream of BS about education (from the anti-trans fearmongering, the shit about common core, bs about CRT, etc) only to realize that these shitheads don't have any actual plans beyond just fuck up everything just to fuck it up.

Certainly, anyone with a functioning rational mind should have known this, but average MAGA-minded people weren't thinking rationally.
 
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I don't think that's ever actually been true, but it was an old sham that we used to prop up under the guise of it being good for kids to keep politics outta sight. Kinda like how parents used to stay together instead of getting divorced "for the kids". But now there's shitloads of these batshit insane right wingers running on various layers of nonsense they've been screaming about (be it anti-trans/LGBTQ, anti-"PC", "fixing liberal bias in schools, etc.) so the partisanship isn't only not hidden its the cornerstone of what they're trying to achieve (whilst they scream about brainswashing...). Hence what we see here, and we see exactly why this is shitty.
I don't think he meant that school boards were/are not made up of partisan people, if I read him correctly he meant that they are not voted on in partisan format. So that when you vote for your local school board it will not put the (R) or (D) next to their name. The only way to know what party or ideology they espouse is to pay attention to their platform.

Not many people do, so they end up voting for someone nearly at random. That often means that the more extremists tend to win because they vote with intention. If you have a thousand people that randomly vote for either candidate, and then 100 that all vote for one person, that one person mostly wins.
 
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I don't think that's ever actually been true, but it was an old sham that we used to prop up under the guise of it being good for kids to keep politics outta sight. Kinda like how parents used to stay together instead of getting divorced "for the kids". But now there's shitloads of these batshit insane right wingers running on various layers of nonsense they've been screaming about (be it anti-trans/LGBTQ, anti-"PC", "fixing liberal bias in schools, etc.) so the partisanship isn't only not hidden its the cornerstone of what they're trying to achieve (whilst they scream about brainswashing...). Hence what we see here, and we see exactly why this is shitty.

I genuinely don't know how to unfuck American education at this point. From morons like Louis CK trashing common core because he doesn't understand pictographs,
Non partisan elections just means they don't list the party and there isn't a party based primarily. Doesn't mean the person doesn't actually belong to a party. I am glad for non partisan elections because people actually vote based off policies not the letter. My city council/mayor and school board is packed full of same moderates/liberals but not a single one would've been elected in a partisan election.
 

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I think school boards are almost always non-partisan. So you have to actually research what they are saying. I am so thankfully all these maga fucks lost in the last election. IN my zone the non-crazy won by like ~25 votes. Way too close for comfort.
Yes, you gotta research or vote for incumbents. But these idiots usually talk a lot, so easy to find out the Republicans. They also have websites with endorsements.
 

Zorba

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Yes, you gotta research or vote for incumbents. But these idiots usually talk a lot, so easy to find out the Republicans. They also have websites with endorsements.
Yeah, around here there are a few tall tells. First the crazies all use a red background on their signs, put little flags on them, and generally have identical looking everything (showing they have a backer). There is also a shitty strip center whose owner must be a full blown MAGA, but he'll put huge signs in the parking lot, so any one advertized there is almost definitely a crazy.

But yeah, if you read anything the crazies have said, it's pretty easy to spot them too.
 

dainthomas

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I don't think he meant that school boards were/are not made up of partisan people, if I read him correctly he meant that they are not voted on in partisan format. So that when you vote for your local school board it will not put the (R) or (D) next to their name. The only way to know what party or ideology they espouse is to pay attention to their platform.

Not many people do, so they end up voting for someone nearly at random. That often means that the more extremists tend to win because they vote with intention. If you have a thousand people that randomly vote for either candidate, and then 100 that all vote for one person, that one person mostly wins.

Another good tip is to look at their endorsements. An endorsement from known maga state legislators or, in my case, our local fascist sheriff is a giant red flag.
 
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Yeah, around here there are a few tall tells. First the crazies all use a red background on their signs, put little flags on them, and generally have identical looking everything (showing they have a backer). There is also a shitty strip center whose owner must be a full blown MAGA, but he'll put huge signs in the parking lot, so any one advertized there is almost definitely a crazy.

But yeah, if you read anything the crazies have said, it's pretty easy to spot them too.
Yeah, researching what actual party affiliation is for "non-partisan" offices is what takes most time. For partisan races I don't even read candidate name.
 

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The same republicans also thought the abortion issue would blow over. a year later and they've realized they fucked up.
Sadly, they don't think they fucked up, they continue to double down by pushing more and more abortion restrictions. The difference with the regret for electing this school board is that it is impacting them and their kids, where abortion restrictions only impacts others.

Republicans love controlling the lives of everyone else, but when things impact them, they whine about their freedoms.
 

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