GOP to Make Tax cuts permanent

compcons

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"Buying" votes?

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/house-republicans-seek-permanent-tax-215114323.html

Cliff's notes from AP:

Republicans looking to make their $1.5 Trillion dollar gift/deficit bill to corporations and rich people permanent and the deficit even bigger.

Weird timing right before the election in my opinion.

Excellent move by the party of fiscal responsibility. Deficits is only a four letter word when you are not writing the checks.

I imagine a bunch of their leadership sitting around trying to find something to bolster support for the mid-terms. Since their only real legislation was a $1.5 Trillion dollar loan, they are going back to the well to see if they can dupe their dumb-ass supporters once again. Based on the comments section, it will work.
 
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K1052

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Midterm panic and the House Rs are mashing all the buttons because it looks bleak.
 

Bitek

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Imo, they are trying to counter an election ad point where people's taxes will eventually go up. Completely craven.

Still getting fucked on the SALT limits tho.

Fuck these tax cuts
 
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umbrella39

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Just in time for the Dems to take the House. Right before the real truth of this "tax cut" is felt but just in time for the Dems to then get the blame...

How many seats DOES the GOP want to lose in November? While these screw Americans first assholes are busy trying to make this give away to the rich permanent the Dems should be sitting back with their feet up enjoying House control for years to come...

Tick tock tick tock...
 

pauldun170

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Long game.....this is all about holding power.
It's like an ARM.
While republicans are in, they sucker you into buying the pricey house but smooth talking you with low rates.
Then the democrats get power and the reality of paying for a house comes into play when the rates go up

Republicans then blame Democrats for paying for the fancy house.

Unfortunately, voters fall for this sort of thing and Democrats get labelled as tax bastards.
 
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Ajay

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And the truth is found in the last paragraph:

“The 2019 Republican budget scraps any sense of responsibility to the American people and any obligation to being honest,” said Rep. John Yarmuth (Ky.), the top Democrat on the Budget Committee. “Its repeal of the Affordable Care Act and extreme cuts to health care, retirement security, anti-poverty programs, education, infrastructure, and other critical investments are real and will inflict serious harm on American families.”
 

Ajay

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I'm more expecting them to campaign on it besides just float policy proposals.
If the republicans did this now, they would certainly lose the midterms. They are just signalling to they wealthy and their corporate overloads what they think should happen. Rat bastards.
 

Indus

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When the dems take over, they should make taxes 1% for the first $100,000, 20% for 100k-1 million and 80% for more than that.

Lets see how GOP repeals that.
 

JTsyo

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When the dems take over, they should make taxes 1% for the first $100,000, 20% for 100k-1 million and 80% for more than that.

Lets see how GOP repeals that.
You think that wold pass the Senate and get signed by Trump? I imagine that would drop revenue by a huge margin.
 

theeedude

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It's for show. They have no way to pay for these, so they have to expire to pass under reconciliation in the senate.
 
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Jhhnn

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Just in time for the Dems to take the House. Right before the real truth of this "tax cut" is felt but just in time for the Dems to then get the blame...

How many seats DOES the GOP want to lose in November? While these screw Americans first assholes are busy trying to make this give away to the rich permanent the Dems should be sitting back with their feet up enjoying House control for years to come...

Tick tock tick tock...

You badly underestimate the hold right win propagandists have on GOP voters. They're conditioned at a deeply emotional level. Rational thinking doesn't have much to do with it.
 
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Wonder if this has anything to do with the fact the Senate just shifted to a toss up. Arizona Florida and even Texas are at risk

Gotta get all they can when they can.
 

fskimospy

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Wonder if this has anything to do with the fact the Senate just shifted to a toss up. Arizona Florida and even Texas are at risk

Gotta get all they can when they can.

Who called the Senate a toss-up? That seems generous, although if I remember right in elections like this one party tends to win most or all of the close races. If that happened for the Democrats that would be enough.

While at this moment a Senate victory appears unlikely if it did happen that would really be the icing on the cake as if Democrats have a brain in their head (debatable) all Trump judicial appointments end the first day of the next Congress. Leave the courts as empty as possible for the next (hopefully Democratic) president and then nominate the youngest judges you can find anywhere. After the Democrats re-fill all those vacancies offer a deal to Republicans where no party engages in that kind of blockade again. With luck, seeing that the stove is in fact hot will cause them to think twice in the future.
 

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Of course they're trying to buy votes. They're not going to campaign on the fifth-largest budget deficit in history. Or the fact that the August deficit was double compared to last August. Or that their corporate donors have had their taxes drop 30% this year while individual taxes have increased 4%. Or that defense spending is up another 6%.
 
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K1052

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After the Democrats re-fill all those vacancies offer a deal to Republicans where no party engages in that kind of blockade again. With luck, seeing that the stove is in fact hot will cause them to think twice in the future.

Republicans won't even agree with the Democrats to not use hacked materials in political campaigns because they're afraid of missing out on an advantage. I think de-escalation of the judicial war they started is even more unlikely.
 
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ivwshane

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Hey, if you aren't planning on fixing government or dealing with issues the American people find important then, yeah, you should be giving back as much money back to the people as you can.

Personally, I'd rather have a functioning government and politicians that are willing to deal with issues we face.
 
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Who called the Senate a toss-up? That seems generous, although if I remember right in elections like this one party tends to win most or all of the close races. If that happened for the Democrats that would be enough.

While at this moment a Senate victory appears unlikely if it did happen that would really be the icing on the cake as if Democrats have a brain in their head (debatable) all Trump judicial appointments end the first day of the next Congress. Leave the courts as empty as possible for the next (hopefully Democratic) president and then nominate the youngest judges you can find anywhere. After the Democrats re-fill all those vacancies offer a deal to Republicans where no party engages in that kind of blockade again. With luck, seeing that the stove is in fact hot will cause them to think twice in the future.
This liberal rag seems to be voicing some concerns.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...rity-in-jeopardy-tight-races-raise-alarm.html

They are basing it off RCP.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/2018_elections_senate_map.html
 
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Jhhnn

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Of course they're trying to buy votes. They're not going to campaign on the fifth-largest budget deficit in history. Or the fact that the August deficit was double compared to last August. Or that their corporate donors have had their taxes drop 30% this year while individual taxes have increased 4%. Or that defense spending is up another 6%.

They just love the smell of a class warfare looting spree on the Treasury.
 
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fskimospy

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Republicans won't even agree with the Democrats to not use hacked materials in political campaigns because they're afraid of missing out on an advantage. I think de-escalation of the judicial war they started is even more unlikely.

You could certainly be correct on that one but frankly if de-escalation is impossible than the dissolution of the US or the descent into dictatorship is inevitable as the system will (relatively) quickly destroy itself. Seems worth giving the Republicans a paddling if possible with the hopes that they see that their scorched earth tactics have costs as well as benefits.
 
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trenchfoot

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Seems to me the Repubs have always pushed things to the limit and beyond in the way of tax cuts for the rich and takeaways from everyone else and then dare the Dems to piss off the donor class/big corporations {jerb givers) by insisting they pay their fair share.

This last round of tax cuts for the wealthy saw them give their very wealthy benefactors a nice hefty cut and give the middle class far far less than was promised, yet give Trump and the Repubs something to brag about and have the middle class think really hard of whether or not they would vote away the measly crumbs they were given by the previous Repub controlled Congress. A bird in hand as it were.

The one thing the Repubs can and do rely on is the idea that if they can keep the poor in their place at the bottom of the economic ladder and blame the baby murdering, gun taking Satan loving Dems for their suffering they will keep winning elections. All the while they're telling them they will bring them jobs, tax cuts and a much much better health plan which never happens yet somehow is believed in time after time after time.

What a racket it is.
 
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Bitek

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I'll say it again, Ds should be promising to rework the tax cuts to make them balanced towards the middle and lower class instead of the corporations and billionaires.

Rs are baiting them into just raising taxes.

Don't do it. Be for the masses.
 
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