GOP senators pledge to block all bills until Bush tax cuts extended

[spacejamz]

And he doesn't want to raise taxes still. It is not part of his plan.

Republicans holding things hostage for the rich was probably not in the contingencies either.

try explaining that to all of the working middle class when they see more taxes being taken out of their paychecks...

 

[theeedude]

Thank God for Obama...the true champion for the middle class!!!

At least your irony has a brain, maybe you should be ironic more.

 

[theeedude]

You're exactly right. In the worst countries in history in terms of a few rich owning everything and everyone else being virtual impoverished slaves, you had the same arguments being made about the same issues. Today I was just reading about some history in the late 19th century, when the heads of European states (think 'Czar') were telling one another about the terrible and immoral push for the public to have more power coming from the 'new world' (that's the US) than endangered them.

At the height of the robber baron era in the US with slums, child labor, people working 16 hour days six days a week in unsafe condition, you had the same arguments.

There is no limit to how far the right would push the society into oligarchy step by step.

This is why the anecdote of a man telling Bush he was disappointed in him and hoped he was not re-elected had Bush smile for the cameras but lean in and say so just he could hear, "Who cares what you think?" was so provoking to people, because it reflected the whole 'the public has no power' situation the right leads to.

Banana republic cheap labor tax shelters are the models for what conservatives want to do with America. Of course the teabaggers supporting them are going to be at the bottom of the food chain, working two jobs each just to stay above water, but hey, small price to pay to keep the aristocracy happy.

 

[spidey07]

What version of reality do you subscribe to?

The middle class tax cuts were the biggest cuts made in addition to eliminating marriage penalty and larger child tax credit. In terms of a family's taxes as a percentage of household taxes paid were cut the most were the middle class.

I wasn't just the rate reduction that helped the middle class so much, it was all the other goodies. But keep buying the liberal spin that it was "tax cuts for the rich". There are plenty of calculators out there to see just how much middle class incomes are going to be taxed if all the bush tax cuts expire. I read an article just yesterday that said your average family with two kids making 75K would pay 2500 dollars MORE.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Banana republic cheap labor tax shelters are the models for what conservatives want to do with America. Of course the teabaggers supporting them are going to be at the bottom of the food chain, working two jobs each just to stay above water, but hey, small price to pay to keep the aristocracy happy.

Aren't you ther guy who liked buying cheap vegetables picked with cheap labor? Or was that somebody else?

 

[theeedude]

Aren't you ther guy who liked buying cheap vegetables picked with cheap labor? Or was that somebody else?

Yeah, except I'd rather they be picked by illegals, not working class Americans you want working the fields for pennies.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yeah, except I'd rather they be picked by illegals, not working class Americans you want working the fields for pennies.

So, it's OK to exploit people in only those cases where it benefits you directly?

 

[theeedude]

So, it's OK to exploit people in only those cases where it benefits you directly?

Exploiting teabaggers like you would benefit me directly too. If you want to get out there and pick me some lettuce instead of an illegal doing it, by all means proceed. But I'd rather Americans have better options.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Exploiting teabaggers like you would benefit me directly too. If you want to get out there and pick me some lettuce instead of an illegal doing it, by all means proceed. But I'd rather Americans have better options.

Oh my...the irony of it all makes my head explode.

So...I'm afraid to ask...how did you come to the conclusion that I'm a "teabagger"? The folks from the Party of Intellectualism never cease to amaze me.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well at least we get gridlock out of this.

 

[Bowfinger]

Oh my...the irony of it all makes my head explode.

So...I'm afraid to ask...how did you come to the conclusion that I'm a "teabagger"? The folks from the Party of Intellectualism never cease to amaze me.

That's been my assumption. If it walks like a duck ...

You're not raving loony about it like "We the People" Spidey, but you generally seem to support that line, parroting many of the same points and launching the same attacks from the same distorted perspective. You sometimes toss off a comment critical of the right, but it always seems to be a half-hearted formality before you jump back into passionately bashing the left.

 

[theeedude]

Oh my...the irony of it all makes my head explode.

So...I'm afraid to ask...how did you come to the conclusion that I'm a "teabagger"? The folks from the Party of Intellectualism never cease to amaze me.

Your obvious contempt for intellect. It's obvious.

 

[Craig234]

Banana republic cheap labor tax shelters are the models for what conservatives want to do with America. Of course the teabaggers supporting them are going to be at the bottom of the food chain, working two jobs each just to stay above water, but hey, small price to pay to keep the aristocracy happy.

They're well trained little farm animals who are very grateful for what they get from the generous bosses. It's sick to watch. They're like enablers of authoritarians. Unamerican.

 

[hal2kilo]

You forget the Reagan dogma; tax cuts always increase government revenue.

It's like magic. It's quite Lafferable.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

That's been my assumption. If it walks like a duck ...

You're not raving loony about it like "We the People" Spidey, but you generally seem to support that line, parroting many of the same points and launching the same attacks from the same distorted perspective. You sometimes toss off a comment critical of the right, but it always seems to be a half-hearted formality before you jump back into passionately bashing the left.

I doubt very much that you know much of anything about what I think. Yet you somehow feel justified in speculating and making assuptions as a basis to attack me.

IIRC, the last time you made a post directed at me you 'assumed' something that wasn't true regarding the phrase 'Party of Intellectualism'. Now you're back here again throwing mud at me based on another one of your 'assumptions'.

Is there something personal going on here?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Your obvious contempt for intellect. It's obvious.

Yes it's obvious...I do have contempt for what you call intellect.

 

[Zebo]

They're well trained little farm animals who are very grateful for what they get from the generous bosses. It's sick to watch. They're like enablers of authoritarians. Unamerican.

This is normal. About every 4 generations we have to go through this. there is a High (1950-1970), a revolt (Started with nixon), a Unraveling (Debt we created in late 80's and 90s to mask fail) and a Crisis (coming soon and the so called great depression) which then wakenes people up again to have a high. US history it's always the same.

So don't worry Craig. There be massive pain which will cause people to think again.

 

[Fern]

I doubt the Repubs would be able to keep 41 together for a filibuster. They only have 42 seats now, and that includes Snowe, Collins, and Brown. If only one of them broke for the $250K limit ther would be no filibuster.

But not long ago someone posted about the 'secret hold' rule. I suppose just one Repub could prevent a vote on the now passed tax extention bill.

Fern

 

[theeedude]

Yes it's obvious...I do have contempt for what you call intellect.

Yeah, it is pretty obvious.

 

[Bowfinger]

I doubt very much that you know much of anything about what I think. Yet you somehow feel justified in speculating and making assuptions as a basis to attack me.

IIRC, the last time you made a post directed at me you 'assumed' something that wasn't true regarding the phrase 'Party of Intellectualism'. Now you're back here again throwing mud at me based on another one of your 'assumptions'.

Is there something personal going on here?

LOL!

Wow! What an ego. I hate to disappoint you, but you're presuming a much greater level of concern about you than I have. I'm afraid I don't spend much time considering what you may think. or speculating and making assumptions about you. I simply offered an observation on the impression you've created with your posts here. If that impression is somehow inaccurate you have a choice to make. You can ignore it, you can do a littler self-reflection, or you can choose to be immature and shoot the messenger. Whatever works for you.

As to "Party of Intellectualism," I don't remember whatever exchange we may (or may not) have had about it, but it's a good example of exactly my point about you. That phrase embodies one shameful theme of the tea bag crowd, their open disdain for intellect. They cherish stupidity. They think it is admirable to be dumb. By parroting that phrase you flag yourself squarely in the tea bag camp.


PS. I should note to your credit that you seem to consider being associated with the tea party as "throwing mud." It shows you're not a complete loon. There are many -- far too many -- who consider that a badge of honor.

 

[werepossum]

LOL!

Wow! What an ego. I hate to disappoint you, but you're presuming a much greater level of concern about you than I have. I'm afraid I don't spend much time considering what you may think. or speculating and making assumptions about you. I simply offered an observation on the impression you've created with your posts here. If that impression is somehow inaccurate you have a choice to make. You can ignore it, you can do a littler self-reflection, or you choose to be immature and shoot the messenger. Whatever works for you.

As to "Party of Intellectualism," I don't remember whatever exchange we may (or may not) have had about it, but it's a good example of exactly my point about you. That phrase embodies one shameful theme of the tea bag crowd, their open disdain for intellect. They cherish stupidity. They think it is admirable to be dumb. By parroting that phrase you flag yourself squarely in the tea bag camp.


PS. I should note to your credit that you seem to consider being associated with the tea party as "throwing mud." It shows you're not a complete loon. There are many -- far too many -- who consider that a badge of honor.

You understand exactly nothing about the Tea Party movement. Whether that's due to a lack of sufficient intelligence or a total lack of integrity - and I specifically do not rule out both - you demonstrate a complete lack of intellect whilst accusing others of the same. While that is amusing in a spoiled child sort of way, it hardly induces anyone to weight whatever you might utter with even the slightest pretense of significance.

 

[Bowfinger]

You understand exactly nothing about the Tea Party movement. Whether that's due to a lack of sufficient intelligence or a total lack of integrity - and I specifically do not rule out both - you demonstrate a complete lack of intellect whilst accusing others of the same. While that is amusing in a spoiled child sort of way, it hardly induces anyone to weight whatever you might utter with even the slightest pretense of significance.

Hit a nerve, did I? You worship stupidity too?

 

[PokerGuy]

Hit a nerve, did I? You worship stupidity too?

It's pretty evident you do.....

 

[Bowfinger]

It's pretty evident you do.....

:thumbsup:

Awesome. Let's see how many more of you teabaggers we can get to pile on. You're too dumb to realize you're only proving my point. Much appreciated!

 

[werepossum]

Hit a nerve, did I? You worship stupidity too?

To paraphrase Stone and Parker: I hate stupidity. But I really, really hate stupidity proclaiming its intelligence.