GOP Plans Vote to Put Kerry and Edwards on the Spot . .

CaptnKirk

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From the Washington Post - Register dammit !

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Republicans plan to use Congress to pull Sen. John F. Kerry and vulnerable Democrats into the cultural wars over gay rights, abortion and guns, envisioning a series of debates and votes that will highlight the candidates' positions on divisive issues, according to congressional aides and GOP officials.

The strategy will be on full display today, as Kerry (Mass.) and Sen. John Edwards (N.C.), the leading Democratic presidential candidates, plan to interrupt their Super Tuesday campaigning to fly to Washington for half a dozen votes on gun legislation, including liability protections for gun manufacturers. Both men oppose the liability bill, placing them in their party's majority even though some prominent Democrats -- including Senate Minority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) -- support the bill.

A top Edwards aide said the senator is "not thrilled" to be voting on gun control one week before southern states such as Texas hold their primaries. Kerry, who has missed every Senate vote this year -- plus several key votes last year -- canceled a Florida campaign event tonight to be on hand for the gun votes, several of which are expected to be close.

Steve Elmendorf, a senior Kerry adviser, said of the strategy by congressional Republicans and the administration, "We just have to aggressively defend our interests and make sure they do not abuse their power by coming up with phony political ideas." He said Kerry will rely on fellow Democrats to defend him in Congress most of the time.

Republicans openly welcome the discomfort that votes on issues such as gun control might cause Kerry, Edwards and other Democrats, now and later this year. "The Senate floor is full of bear traps," said Eric Ueland, deputy chief of staff to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.).

GOP leaders are not specifically scheduling votes to influence the election, he said, but they are aware of the political calendar and the potential impact of congressional votes. "We've got a lot of things to get done," Ueland said. "If they have resonance with the campaign, that's an added benefit."

One of the most divisive issues looming is a proposed constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriages, which President Bush has endorsed. A Senate panel holds hearings on the topic this week, even though Senate and House leaders appear far from figuring how to build the two-thirds majority required of each chamber to send the proposal to the states for ratification.

Republicans also plan a series of votes on judicial appointments and tax cuts this year that could put Kerry in tough political spots, according to a senior GOP leadership aide. Another possible wedge issue, aides in both parties say, is a long-standing proposed constitutional amendment to outlaw burning the American flag.

Sen. Rick Santorum (Pa.), chairman of the Republican Conference, said the GOP is justified in pushing for votes that highlight some of its strongest issues with voters. Democrats, he said, "love to talk about education and health care," two issues that traditionally benefit their own party.
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CaptnKirk

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<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.gop.com/RNCResearch/read.aspx?ID=3833">Virtually EVERY candidate on the trail has missed EVERY vote this year.
Today is Calandar day 62, remember the year is new.</a>
*Note - this is from LAST years final session

The INCUMBENT has missed NO VOTES - he (The President) NEVER DOES VOTE IN CONGRESS.

There are no GOP congressional people of merit running against Bush, but still there are
Republican senators and Congress-persons missing thier votes, as they have better
things to do in their partisan posturing than take care of the country for the public.
Their interest is only for thier personal agendaq, and keeping thier power.

There has only been ONE voting session so far this year, and that's in the Senate
That concerned Medical Negligence, and it was rejected.
The house has held no voting.

So, by barnstorming that the candidates have missed EVERY Voting Session, that is true, but misleading.

Here's the Vote record
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.gop.com/RNCResearch/read.aspx?ID=3833">Virtually EVERY candidate on the trail has missed EVERY vote this year.
Today is Calandar day 62, remember the year is new.</a>
*Note - this is from LAST years final session

The INCUMBENT has missed NO VOTES - he (The President) NEVER DOES VOTE IN CONGRESS.

There are no GOP congressional people of merit running against Bush, but still there are
Republican senators and Congress-persons missing thier votes, as they have better
things to do in their partisan posturing than take care of the country for the public.
Their interest is only for thier personal agendaq, and keeping thier power.

There has only been ONE voting session so far this year, and that's in the Senate
That concerned Medical Negligence, and it was rejected.
The house has held no voting.

So, by barnstorming that the candidates have missed EVERY Voting Session, that is true, but misleading.

What was their attendance like last fall?;)

CkG
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
What is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

Its really funny how quickly you regurgitate the talking points and rationale of the conservative talking heads in talk radio and cable TV.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
What is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

Its really funny how quickly you regurgitate the talking points and rationale of the conservative talking heads in talk radio and cable TV.

diverting? Why not answer the question? Oh wait...

CkG
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
What is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

Its really funny how quickly you regurgitate the talking points and rationale of the conservative talking heads in talk radio and cable TV.

diverting? Why not answer the question? Oh wait...

CkG

LOL. And he wasn't diverting from the OP's post? In fact, its quite plain why this tactic is wrong from the article. I don't know what he's asking the question for.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
What is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

Its really funny how quickly you regurgitate the talking points and rationale of the conservative talking heads in talk radio and cable TV.

diverting? Why not answer the question? Oh wait...

CkG

LOL. And he wasn't diverting from the OP's post? In fact, its quite plain why this tactic is wrong from the article. I don't know what he's asking the question for.

GOP plans vote to put kerry and edwards on the spot - meaning they would actually have to SHOW UP AND VOTE and state an opinion;) Now again - what is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

CkG
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
What is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

Its really funny how quickly you regurgitate the talking points and rationale of the conservative talking heads in talk radio and cable TV.

diverting? Why not answer the question? Oh wait...

CkG

If the vote is not close, why bother voting? Makes no difference. As long as they are there for the close votes that's fine. Just like the VP is only there for tiebreaker votes.
Besides, it's up to their constituents to decide. I am guessing Massachussets will reelect Kerry if he never votes on anything. Beats voting with the GOP.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
What is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

Its really funny how quickly you regurgitate the talking points and rationale of the conservative talking heads in talk radio and cable TV.

diverting? Why not answer the question? Oh wait...

CkG

LOL. And he wasn't diverting from the OP's post? In fact, its quite plain why this tactic is wrong from the article. I don't know what he's asking the question for.


The article was posted in an attempt to slur our current President. I merely pointed out the first thing that really stood out.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: alchemize
If anyone has some spare time...here's Kerry's entire voting record :)

Link

Slap it into a spreadsheet?

Wouldn't it be easier to just say he voted with the liberals on every single vote?
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: alchemize
If anyone has some spare time...here's Kerry's entire voting record :)

Link

Slap it into a spreadsheet?

Wouldn't it be easier to just say he voted with the liberals on every single vote?

Good. November is a choice. You want "conservative" politics that GOP has been peddling for the last 4 years, or you want a split ticket "consevative" Congress "liberal" president, like we had in the 1990's under Clinton? I know my answer.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: alchemize
If anyone has some spare time...here's Kerry's entire voting record :)

Link

Slap it into a spreadsheet?

Wouldn't it be easier to just say he voted with the liberals on every single vote?
That info is in there, yes :)

Here's another gem:


#1 contributors to Kerry? Lawyers......by a long shot.

Interestingly...Bush is #1 retired, #2 lawyers...

Even more interestingly, by 2 to 1 margin, Lawyers give more money to Bush over Kerry. Of course you forgot to mention that.
 

Romans828

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GOP plans vote to put kerry and edwards on the spot - meaning they would actually have to SHOW UP AND VOTE and state an opinion Now again - what is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

This is some funny Sh*t. Kerry and Edwards upset about having to actually take a position and vote near an election.

They want to maintain the ability to LIE TO POTENTIAL voters straight out, these men have NO CHARACTER at all.......worthless.

Its time the democratic party just admit they have no principles left, nothing they firmly believe and will TAKE A STAND ON
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Romans828
GOP plans vote to put kerry and edwards on the spot - meaning they would actually have to SHOW UP AND VOTE and state an opinion Now again - what is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

This is some funny Sh*t. Kerry and Edwards upset about having to actually take a position and vote near an election.

They want to maintain the ability to LIE TO POTENTIAL voters straight out, these men have NO CHARACTER at all.......worthless.

Its time the democratic party just admit they have no principles left, nothing they firmly believe and will TAKE A STAND ON

Speaking of lying to potential voters, whatever happened to the WMD's in Iraq?
I guess it took character to get US bogged down in a war that has killed 500 soldiers and burned through $100B of taxpayer money in 1 year only to find out that the reason given for the war was BS. It's very principled to saddle future generations with $500B of debt a year so Bush can campaign on taxcuts.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Romans828
The war in Iraq is a great success what are you talking about?

Success in what? Getting bogged down in open ended military commitments for reasons that can't withstand the facts?
 

EXman

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Its really funny how quickly you regurgitate the talking points and rationale of the conservative talking heads in talk radio and cable TV.
hahahaha what a joke. that is not a tough concept there bub if you don't go to work you shouldn't get paid or have a job.
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
What is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

Its really funny how quickly you regurgitate the talking points and rationale of the conservative talking heads in talk radio and cable TV.

diverting? Why not answer the question? Oh wait...

CkG

LOL. And he wasn't diverting from the OP's post? In fact, its quite plain why this tactic is wrong from the article. I don't know what he's asking the question for.


The article was posted in an attempt to slur our current President. I merely pointed out the first thing that really stood out.

You are not heartsurgeon, I wasn't referring to you.
 

MonstaThrilla

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
What is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

Its really funny how quickly you regurgitate the talking points and rationale of the conservative talking heads in talk radio and cable TV.

diverting? Why not answer the question? Oh wait...

CkG

LOL. And he wasn't diverting from the OP's post? In fact, its quite plain why this tactic is wrong from the article. I don't know what he's asking the question for.

GOP plans vote to put kerry and edwards on the spot - meaning they would actually have to SHOW UP AND VOTE and state an opinion;) Now again - what is wrong with asking Senators to fulfill their elected duties and vote on bills?

CkG

Statement of the obvious: The GOP is pushing these votes to start a culture war. They are trying to divide rather than unite. It is dirty politics, and it is wrong.
 

Romans828

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Statement of the obvious: The GOP is pushing these votes to start a culture war. They are trying to divide rather than unite. It is dirty politics, and it is wrong.

I am allowed to laugh at that right?

Start a culture war, now thats a good one.........

How about stop the bleeding
 

EXman

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Statement of the obvious: The GOP is pushing these votes to start a culture war. They are trying to divide rather than unite. It is dirty politics, and it is wrong.
Statement of the Niave it's politics it's gonna be dirty ON BOTH SIDES! Better not turn on your TV or read a paper til November! :p

Divide yes he is as Kerry can have his cake and eat it to other than voting one sided against all of our weapon systems that defend you and I he is on both sides of almost every other issue. I still have not heard HOW Kerry is gonna keep all his promises. All he has Done has Attacked the Pres and says He Sucks vote for me by default. Is that not deviding? Yes actually it is... same old same old... you better buy a raincoat and some earplugs and some thicker skin.

PS Dean lost already your sig is dated!