GOP pandering to racists.....again!

[Atreus21]

I've said this a hundred times and I'll keep saying it. Republicans, don't bitch and moan that you can't woo the black vote. Maybe because of stuff like this.

First we had unamerican
Then we had "ferner"
then we had kenyan
then we had "mooslim"
then we had antichrist

Now the latest white sheet narrative.

Obama "grew up in a privileged way", "never had to work for anything", "never had ups and downs in life" "Obama's upbringing is what distances him from Americans"

So let's dissect and analyze

Obama grew up with a single parent mother who at sometime was on food stamps. At some point in time cared for an ailing grandmother. Went to college on his own ability. Became President of the Harvard Law review which is only earned by merit. Took his degree and went to work in the community.

Ok, so it appears the narrative is factually incorrect and his bio is easy to reference. So what does the latest smear indicate? These are code words. The wink wink people in the GOP use to get the message to those who believe this uppity negro was handed everything in life probably by the "gubmit" and did nothing to earn his status. The same wink wink used by the birthers. Attempting to brand him as an "other"

Herman Cain must be a moron if he really believes blacks are brainwashed into voting Democrat. I submit it's bullshit like this that keeps them away.


More info on this personal smear
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68586.html

I'd like to think that Republicans have a good shot at wooing the black vote considering that they:

1. Want to treat blacks as equals, as undeserving as whites or any other race of any special privileges in getting jobs or college applications
2. Can point to the origin and history of their party as being important. The party was formed to end slavery.
3. Can point to the origin of the KKK as being important.
4. Can point to the votes percentages by party of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and the 1965 Voting Rights Act, as being important.
5. Generally oppose abortion, which disproportionately targets black children.
6. Don't have special, race-specific insults for blacks who happen not to be Republican.

 

[Atreus21]

From your article


I'll accept that

Once again, Fox News as a whole ranked fairly low among regularly used media outlets -- 20 percent answered all four correctly and 18 percent answered three correctly. Still, those numbers beat the national average of 14 percent and 20 percent, respectively. (The best-scoring outlet, the Wall Street Journal, posted scores of 51 percent and 23 percent, respectively.)

Fox actually scored better than its two direct cable-news rivals -- MSNBC, which is a liberal counterpoint to Fox, and CNN, which is considered more middle-of-the-road. Also scoring lower than Fox were local television news, the evening network news shows and the network morning shows.

So will I.

 

[cybrsage]

Again in order for you to justify current GOP behavior you have go use a dead guy on something he did back in 1965. Laughable at best.

Have to stop you there, for you are mentioning a lie. The current GOP actions are not racist.

Maybe you need to focus more on current GOP bahavior.

Show the racist GOP policies you claim exist.

 

[HomerJS]

Have to stop you there, for you are mentioning a lie. The current GOP actions are not racist.




Show the racist GOP policies you claim exist.

Again reading comprehension. I didn't say the action in themselves were racist, I pointed out the method of code word, wink wink pandering to racists.

 

[cybrsage]

Then post the specific laws created by the republicans that are racist. You say they are pandering to them, prove it.

Should be easy for you, since you are the one making the claim.

 

[Atreus21]

Should be easy for you, since you are the one making the claim.

 

[fskimospy]

I'd like to think that Republicans have a good shot at wooing the black vote considering that they:

1. Want to treat blacks as equals, as undeserving as whites or any other race of any special privileges in getting jobs or college applications
2. Can point to the origin and history of their party as being important. The party was formed to end slavery.
3. Can point to the origin of the KKK as being important.
4. Can point to the votes percentages by party of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and the 1965 Voting Rights Act, as being important.
5. Generally oppose abortion, which disproportionately targets black children.
6. Don't have special, race-specific insults for blacks who happen not to be Republican.

Hahaha, you don't actually believe what you just wrote, do you? Good luck on 'wooing the black vote' by the way, black people aren't stupid. (oh, and nice try on the civil rights act. how many times does that red herring need to be trotted out?)

 

[cybrsage]

Wait...dems voting against civil rights for blacks is meant to destract people from talking about racism in political parties? Uh....

 

[HomerJS]

I'd like to think that Republicans have a good shot at wooing the black vote considering that they:

1. Want to treat blacks as equals, as undeserving as whites or any other race of any special privileges in getting jobs or college applications
2. Can point to the origin and history of their party as being important. The party was formed to end slavery.
3. Can point to the origin of the KKK as being important.
4. Can point to the votes percentages by party of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and the 1965 Voting Rights Act, as being important.
5. Generally oppose abortion, which disproportionately targets black children.
6. Don't have special, race-specific insults for blacks who happen not to be Republican.

You guys always use this argument in attempting to say Demoracts have a worse record on race issues then Republicans but totally ignore a major turing point in black support of Republicans, the Southern Strategy.

Eisenhower in his last election got almost 40% of the black vote. Today that kind of result would be as big a story as the election of Obama.

But things changed after implimentation of the SS. Republicans wanting to lock up the vote in the South coopted virtually all the racist Dixiecrats from the Demoracts and mounted a national Presidential campaign of "states rights" i.e anti-civil rights. This was reflected in the black vote from Goldwater going forward.

Yes Republicans in the Senate offered a large percentage of support for the CRA/VRA but any credit was nullified because the Presidential candidates ran on a position in opposition.

Now you guys are stuck with all those Dixiecrats and their decendants and have been unwilling to ostrisize them from your midst.

So go ahead keep allowing Republican officials to make watermelon, fried chicken and black face jokes about Obama. You have the right.

 

[Atreus21]

Hahaha, you don't actually believe what you just wrote, do you? Good luck on 'wooing the black vote' by the way, black people aren't stupid. (oh, and nice try on the civil rights act. how many times does that red herring need to be trotted out?)

On the contrary, if the Republicans think blacks are stupid for one reason, it's for falling hook line and sinker for the Democrat victimization scheme.

 

[hal2kilo]

Wait...dems voting against civil rights for blacks is meant to destract people from talking about racism in political parties? Uh....

Bu, Bu, Bu Byrd. Diversion!

I see you are clueless as to the lhistory of the old Democratic party and the southern dixecrat wing. I won't bore you with the reason why the south was so democratic. Something to do with northern Republican carpet baggers, but I digress.

You do realize that once democratic President Johnson signed the civil rights act, virtually all those dixiecrats left the Democratic party and the Republicans being the racists oportunists that they are, created a strategy to woo all those white southern democrats into the Republican fold.

It's obvious if you look at a Red state, Blue state map, that the Republicans were quite successful.

 

[cybrsage]

Bu, Bu, Bu Byrd. Diversion!

I see you are clueless as to the lhistory of the old Democratic party and the southern dixecrat wing.

I assume you know that the Northern Democrats actively called for Northern soldiers to leave their stations and go fight for the South during the civil war, right?

The Copperheads were a vocal group of Democrats in the Northern United States (see also Union (American Civil War)) who opposed the American Civil War, wanting an immediate peace settlement with the Confederates.

During the American Civil War (1861–1865), the Copperheads nominally favored the Union and strongly opposed the war, for which they blamed abolitionists, and they demanded immediate peace and resisted draft laws. They wanted President Abraham Lincoln and the Republicans ousted from power, seeing the president as a tyrant who was destroying American republican values with his despotic and arbitrary actions.[citation needed]
Some Copperheads tried to persuade Union soldiers to desert. They talked of helping Confederate prisoners of war seize their camps and escape. They sometimes met with Confederate agents and took money. The Confederacy encouraged their activities whenever possible.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copperheads_(politics)

 

[cybrsage]

;for my opinion of the first are, that you could as soon scrub the blackamore white, as to change the principles of a profest Democrat; and that he will leave nothing unattempted to overturn the Government of this Country.

http://www.pbs.org/georgewashington/collection/post_pres_1798sep30.html

 

[Ausm]

lol thanks for proving my point...

We will see in Nov 2012 but with the GOP clown show going on right now...I don't think you guys will have a cold chance in hell of getting the WH back.

 

[Ausm]

On the contrary, if the Republicans think blacks are stupid for one reason, it's for falling hook line and sinker for the Democrat victimization scheme.

You must not be familiar with the Southern strategy I take it?

 

[CitizenKain]

I'd like to think that Republicans have a good shot at wooing the black vote considering that they:

1. Want to treat blacks as equals, as undeserving as whites or any other race of any special privileges in getting jobs or college applications
2. Can point to the origin and history of their party as being important. The party was formed to end slavery.
3. Can point to the origin of the KKK as being important.
4. Can point to the votes percentages by party of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and the 1965 Voting Rights Act, as being important.
5. Generally oppose abortion, which disproportionately targets black children.
6. Don't have special, race-specific insults for blacks who happen not to be Republican.

1. Hahahahahahahaah.
2. Funny how the parties swapped positions.
3. See 2.
4. See 2 again.
5. "Sorry women, we've decided you don't own yourself, so we are going to own you"
6. See how the rightwing is saying that Cain is "one of the good ones." Also the long running birther debate that only the rightwing is doing.

Black people aren't stupid, they remember the same people who try to keep them from voting are the same people with R's after their name.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Well, Americans get pissed off when their President calls them lazy.

2 things:

1. "We" ARE lazy. Most people will point to plenty of their neighbors or "other" people and say tings like "get a job" and "unions", but somehow when that is applied to the nation as a whole... well somehow those people are no longer in the country so the country is not lazy.

2. Nobody likes to hear the truth, especially when all the buffering statements are removed. He said we are still at the top, but that position has made us lazy. We want to sell on REPUTATION more than actually working for the sale (See Ford as an example). But clipped out, all he says is "Americans are lazy....."<clip>.

90% of the stupid people out there will get mad when you call them stupid, but they will still go to see an Adam Sandler flik.

 

[fskimospy]

On the contrary, if the Republicans think blacks are stupid for one reason, it's for falling hook line and sinker for the Democrat victimization scheme.

Clearly people of an ethnic group voting at around 90% levels for one political party is due to an enduring, decades long mass delusion. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the policies of the two parties.

Any time your analysis requires the party you are analyzing to be insane, that's a good reason to believe you got something wrong. The Republicans have explicitly engaged in race baiting campaigning in the recent past, and have since switched to thinly veiled race baiting instead.

The fact that Democrats and black people are aligned on economic issues combined with these campaigning actions explains their voting patterns a whole lot better.

 

[fskimospy]

http://www.pbs.org/georgewashington/collection/post_pres_1798sep30.html

And of course our good friend George was talking about a party that preached state's rights, strict constitutionalism, and campaigned against the equivalent of the federal reserve.

Gee, what party does that sound like?

 

[cubby1223]

<snip>

Your problem is your arguments depend on a position that there is a singular collective called "the right".

Get over yourself. You are nothing special. You are wrong.


I've said it many, many, many, many times before on this forum, and I'll repeat it again - Perry is not winning the GOP nomination. There is nothing more to discuss other than your factually incorrect thread title. And that last point is *your* problem, not anyone else's. Do you never wonder why it is people don't take you seriously?

 

[soundforbjt]

Then post the specific laws created by the republicans that are racist. You say they are pandering to them, prove it.

Should be easy for you, since you are the one making the claim.

How about the repug govs passing voter ID laws and closing and or limiting hours for DMV's in black neighborhoods?

Who do you think those laws are targeting?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

How about the repug govs passing voter ID laws

How is that racist?

 

[fskimospy]

How is that racist?

Because the laws serve absolutely no purpose and they affect minorities to a hugely disproportionate extent.

 

[Drako]

Because the laws serve absolutely no purpose and they affect minorities to a hugely disproportionate extent.

It serves the purpose of not allowing non-citizens to vote. How is that "no purpose"?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Because the laws serve absolutely no purpose and they affect minorities to a hugely disproportionate extent.

So are only minorities being carded when voting under this(these) law(s)?