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Scotteq

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W/O an energy policy we have to meddle. Dems are to blame there too. I have not see a new nuke plant go up since I've been alive while China made about 75. France 50. and so on.

I agree on the nuke plants.. and you can bet that's due to the coal industry and probably oil industry. France and China aren't as controlled by foreign (corporate) finances like our nation is IMO.

Personally, I don't think anything justifies meddling... if it's not your energy you have no right to steal it from another people or nation.. you simply go back to horse and buggy if you are that energy starved.

It's yet another example of Republican hypocrisy.. how is foreign meddling (stealing oil for "our" companies benefit), the free market? So much for the free market when you're coming in with a huge socialist bureaucracy that is our military to intervene. But we can't intervene domestically on healthcare.



The reason given most often is because (Over???) regulation plus environmental and anti-nuclear groups; plus the ready availability of Coal (we have lots and lots of it) have made it not economical to do.

On a personal level: With the cancellation of the Yucca Mountain project, I don't know/see what can be done with the tons and tons and tons of Nuclear Waste already in existance (nearly all currently stored on the site where it was created). This is a real, and really big, problem that needs solved.


Here's the NRC's page for New Reactors: http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactors.html


http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/page/analysis/nuclearpower.html


According to the Wiki godz:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_the_United_States

The Obama administration has disallowed reprocessing of nuclear waste, citing nuclear proliferation concerns.

2008

On August 26, 2008, it was reported that The Shaw Group and Westinghouse would construct a factory at the Port of Lake Charles at Lake Charles, Louisiana to build components for the Westinghouse AP1000 nuclear reactor. On October 23, 2008, it was reported that Northrop Grumman and Areva were planning to construct a factory in Newport News, Virginia to build nuclear reactors.


2009

As of March 9, 2009, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission had received applications for permission to construct 26 new nuclear power reactors with applications for another 7 expected. Six of these reactors have actually been ordered. In addition, the Tennessee Valley Authority petitioned to restart construction on the first two units at Bellefonte. However not all of this new capacity will necessarily be built, with some applications being made to keep future options open and reserving places in a queue for government incentives available for up to the first three plants based on each innovative reactor design.

In May 2009, John Rowe, chairman of Exelon, which operates 17 nuclear reactors, said he would cancel or delay construction of two new reactors in Texas without federal loan guarantees. U.S. nuclear power developers are increasingly looking for new partners to share the high costs and risks of building new reactors.

As of July 2009, the proposed Victoria County Nuclear Power Plant has been delayed, as the project proved difficult to finance. As of April 2009, AmerenUE has suspended plans to build its proposed plant in Missouri because the state Legislature would not allow it to charge consumers for some of the project's costs before the plant's completion. The New York Times has reported that without that "financial and regulatory certainty," the company has said it could not proceed. Previously, MidAmerican Energy Company decided to "end its pursuit of a nuclear power plant in Payette County, Idaho." MidAmerican cited cost as the primary factor in their decision.

2010

On February 16, 2010, President Barack Obama announced loan guarantees for two new reactors at Georgia Power's Vogtle NPP. If the project goes forward, these would be the first plants built in the United States since the 1970s. The reactors are "just the first of what we hope will be many new nuclear projects," said Carol Browner, director of the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy. Mark Z. Jacobson, professor of civil and environmental engineering at Stanford University, has said: "If our nation wants to reduce global warming, air pollution and energy instability, we should invest only in the best energy options. Nuclear energy isn't one of them".

Also in February 2010, Vermont Senate voted 26 to 4 to block operation of the Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant after 2012, citing radioactive tritium leaks, misstatements in testimony by plant officials, a cooling tower collapse in 2007, and other problems. By state law, the renewal of the operating license must be approved by both houses of the legislature for the nuclear power plant to continue operation.

Other than the Vogtle project, ground has been broken on just one other reactor, in South Carolina, as of September 2010. The prospects of a proposed project in Texas, South Texas 3 & 4, have been dimmed by disunity among the partners. Two other reactors in Texas, four in Florida and one in Missouri have all been "moved to the back burner, mostly because of uncertain economics". Constellation Energy has "pulled the plug" on building a new reactor at its Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Power Plant despite a promised $7.5 billion loan guarantee from the Department of Energy". Matthew Wald from the New York Times has suggested that "the nuclear renaissance is looking small and slow at the moment".[50]
 

BoberFett

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Numbnuts? STFU you mental midget. My point is there's a lot of symbolism there.

The pyramid is printed on our money, numbnuts.

But keeping screaming, it's funny to watch people like you explode IN INTERNET RAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!
 

Obsoleet

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What a goon. Rage? If you think so. It is on the money, but the cartoon says "global elite" bankers, not US. Think about it, mental midget.
 

Obsoleet

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Not sure it's HomerJS that needs to be educated.. Keynes is pronounced Canes. Kenyan is not even remotely close.

Regardless, Austrian economics are as bunk as Keynesian. I love how anti-progressives pretend there's merit in debating two 19th century economic theories. As if they are possible answers relevant to the problems facing today's world.
 

werepossum

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Perfect!

Not sure it's HomerJS that needs to be educated.. Keynes is pronounced Canes. Kenyan is not even remotely close.

Regardless, Austrian economics are as bunk as Keynesian. I love how anti-progressives pretend there's merit in debating two 19th century economic theories. As if they are possible answers relevant to the problems facing today's world.
Let the economists predict the climate and the climatologists predict the weather, and no one would ever know the difference. Sometimes I think the phrase "surprising economists" must by law appear in every report about any economic indicator.
 
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Svnla

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Boy are you people dumb

You people? :rolleyes:

Oh, do you mean "ENEMIES" like your comrade leader BO said? Excellent of Hope and Change leadership right there.

Yes We Can vote you out.
 
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nick1985

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Any evidences to back your name calling or just some stupid opinion? :colbert:

Tell me again how did you get to become "elite" member? :thumbsdown:

Dave McOwen was an elite member once too. Just keep that in mind
 

Scotteq

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Neither Party has the interests of the American People at the fore, but rather themselves and the people/special interests paying the millions and millions of dollars necessary to win elections. Therefore - although one might perceive one party as... less vile.. then the other - ultimately, feuding based on Demo/Repub partisanship is ultimately futile.


...however amusing temporarily.
 

RightIsWrong

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I am angry over crazy govt spending and bailouts, and the dems got what they deserved.

I'm angry that, at any time during an election, that 51% of the people are stupid enough to believe that there is any difference whatsoever between a Republican or a Democrat. The are exactly the same with the only difference being the benefactors of their welfare programs.

Until this country gets a viable third or fourth party, we will keep getting the same, recycled crap over and over again with the same messages attached:

Vote for Dems if you want your privacy! (Never mind that they sat by idly while those rights were and still are being eroded)

Vote for Repubs if you want fiscal discipline! (Never mind that they had total control for 6+ years and the budget quadrupled and every policy that they stand for increases corporate welfare which causes bigger deficits)
 

Nemesis 1

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Sorry to pull this back up . But anyone thinking this changes anything is wrong other than who wins in 2012.

Differant people same puppet master.

This does however change who gets elected , We all know the house will pass bills now that will make the voters happy . Hell the Rep in the house will go crazy on giving the people what they want . But so what , These Billd will never get by the Senate and the Dems will be blamed for not passing them or the ones that pass won't make by Obamas veto power . Lol The Dems will be blamed for blocking everthing the new house sends up to the senate . Match set win for the republicans in 2012, All the while nothing gets done and the Dems get blame for stopping bill passages. YOU all lose .