GOP Gubernatorial candidate says porn causes school shootings

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brycejones

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No DSF, the real problem in society are those smutty VHS tapes. We've got to get them off the shelves! The kids, think of the kids. They're unsupervised and thinking impure thoughts because of VHS. It's horrible! /s

Those gosh darn PG movies with thier vile language and skimpy clothing. Porn I tell you it's just porn.
 

zerocool84

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Sorry. But the outrage and just how easy it is to wind up people over such things never ceases to amaze me.
Yup because we shouldn't care that these idiotic lawmakers are blaming everything else except guns because who cares that children have to fear for their lives everyday they go to school. Nobody should have any outrage for these people that do not want to help fix the issues of innocent children dying on a weekly basis is what you are saying.
 

soundforbjt

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Simple, Incels probably watch porn, therefore all women should be like porn actresses and want to have sex with Incels, that doesn’t work out that way in real life for the Incel and he goes cray cray and shoots up the school. That’s probably her “reasoning “.
 
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Yup because we shouldn't care that these idiotic lawmakers are blaming everything else except guns because who cares that children have to fear for their lives everyday they go to school. Nobody should have any outrage for these people that do not want to help fix the issues of innocent children dying on a weekly basis is what you are saying.
That's what you actually hear me saying? Unbelievable. You sir are one f*cked up human being imo....and the really sad part is that you're too fn stupid to know it. For the sake of humanity, please don't breed.
 
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Serious question and this goes to both sides of the gun issue.

If solving shootings required Pr0n be banned would you support removing porn?
 

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Serious question and this goes to both sides of the gun issue.

If solving shootings required Pr0n be banned would you support removing porn?

Start with legalizing and making prostitution more prominent and try that out first. Half the problem is repression and making people bury their frustrations that end up being manifested in much more violent ways.
 
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Start with legalizing and making prostitution more prominent and try that out first. Half the problem is repression and making people bury their frustrations that end up being manifested in much more violent ways.

So half the shooting and all the porn?

Again this is just a thought exercise.
 

fskimospy

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At this point it's become almost funny how desperate conservatives are to figure out any reason why mass gun murders aren't due to the ease of acquiring tools of mass gun murder.
 

SMOGZINN

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That's what you actually hear me saying? Unbelievable. You sir are one f*cked up human being imo....and the really sad part is that you're too fn stupid to know it. For the sake of humanity, please don't breed.

To be fair you made no argument, you just made a comment about how outraged you are about people being outraged.
 
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SMOGZINN

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Serious question and this goes to both sides of the gun issue.

If solving shootings required Pr0n be banned would you support removing porn?

If there was some real reason to think that porn was a major contributing factor in these sorts of killing, then yea I think I would be for it. If we found that porn was that destructive to society then it would be in our best interest to do something about it.
 

deathBOB

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I'm outraged! Spasms...omg...brain spasms! And porn stars getting screwed by banks? Never mind the irony...OMG!

That's it...I'm setting my hair on fire for the 5th time today!

Guys cmon this is just some locker room idiocy, nothing to see here.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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GOP should stick with its current bigotry driven politics, at least everyone understands where its coming from.
 

nickqt

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Kind of makes you wonder who the stupid ones are.
No need to wonder.

The useful idiots voting for clowns simply because the clowns repeat the conjuring words that on-air thought leaders use on a daily basis.

We're gonna bring back coal jobs and the steel industry! Because MAGA! And, Crooked Hillary!

Also: Benghazi. Plus, Pizzagate. And don't forget, DeepState. And of course, Jade Helm. Plus, Kenyan Usurper. Socialism. Freedom. Love it or leave it.

Traced all the way back to professional scumbag and destroyer of civility, Newt Gingrich, and his on-air thought leader buddies.
 

Greenman

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No need to wonder.

The useful idiots voting for clowns simply because the clowns repeat the conjuring words that on-air thought leaders use on a daily basis.

We're gonna bring back coal jobs and the steel industry! Because MAGA! And, Crooked Hillary!

Also: Benghazi. Plus, Pizzagate. And don't forget, DeepState. And of course, Jade Helm. Plus, Kenyan Usurper. Socialism. Freedom. Love it or leave it.

Traced all the way back to professional scumbag and destroyer of civility, Newt Gingrich, and his on-air thought leader buddies.
I always liked Newt, sharp guy, well spoken. Him and Chaney would have made a good team as prez and vp.
I guess it's a bummer that more smart people don't vote. You'd think that with half the population at or above average IQ they'ed be bright enough to get out there and make a difference. Instead they spend their lives on social media complaining about how stupid the people that do vote are.

I'll end where I started. kind of makes you wonder who the stupid ones are.
 

nickqt

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I always liked Newt, sharp guy, well spoken. Him and Chaney would have made a good team as prez and vp.
I guess it's a bummer that more smart people don't vote. You'd think that with half the population at or above average IQ they'ed be bright enough to get out there and make a difference. Instead they spend their lives on social media complaining about how stupid the people that do vote are.

I'll end where I started. kind of makes you wonder who the stupid ones are.
Not a surprise that you like Newt Gingrich: scumbag supreme.

I often go on about thought leaders and how the useful idiots get triggered by the phrases they hear their thought leaders repeat ad nauseam.

Gingrich, in government, and Limbaugh/Jones/O'Reilly/Hannity, on-air, repeat and repeat and repeat and get the useful idiots to follow. Right over a cliff. Over and over again.

Here is Gingrich's GOPAC memo from 1996. An actual written-down map on how to get useful idiots to be especially useful idiots.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130902053532/http://web.utk.edu/~glenn/GopacMemo.html (nice and clear-cut)

In case you're just going to conjuring word away the criticism because of the source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOPAC#GOPAC_memo_of_1990

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...-political-action-committee-gingrich-pamphlet

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/20/opinion/the-politics-of-slash-and-burn.html

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-11-23/news/mn-171_1_doublespeak-award-for-war

http://users.wfu.edu/zulick/454/gopac.html


So, yeah. What a smart guy.

Gingrich and friends have trained modern US conservatives to scream and yell and get triggered by conjuring words.

Brilliant.
 

Greenman

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Not a surprise that you like Newt Gingrich: scumbag supreme.

I often go on about thought leaders and how the useful idiots get triggered by the phrases they hear their thought leaders repeat ad nauseam.

Gingrich, in government, and Limbaugh/Jones/O'Reilly/Hannity, on-air, repeat and repeat and repeat and get the useful idiots to follow. Right over a cliff. Over and over again.

Here is Gingrich's GOPAC memo from 1996. An actual written-down map on how to get useful idiots to be especially useful idiots.

https://web.archive.org/web/20130902053532/http://web.utk.edu/~glenn/GopacMemo.html (nice and clear-cut)

In case you're just going to conjuring word away the criticism because of the source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOPAC#GOPAC_memo_of_1990

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...-political-action-committee-gingrich-pamphlet

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/20/opinion/the-politics-of-slash-and-burn.html

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-11-23/news/mn-171_1_doublespeak-award-for-war

http://users.wfu.edu/zulick/454/gopac.html


So, yeah. What a smart guy.

Gingrich and friends have trained modern US conservatives to scream and yell and get triggered by conjuring words.

Brilliant.
And you think Newt invented this? Is it also your opinion that it isn't almost universal? Would you like a few examples from the liberal point of view? How about berthers, tea baggers, pro choice (it should reflect the actuality of the situation and be pro abortion). What you call "conjuring words" I would call marketing and vilification. That you fall prey to a different set of words isn't my problem at all. I know what I'm walking into when I hear them, do you?

I'm sorry that your offended by my liking newt, but life is full of little disappointments. I accept that you hate him, and I have no interest in trying to change your mind. In your words that makes me a rethuglian, stupid, an idiot, redneck, hillbilly, uneducated and a few more that slip my mind at the moment. I'm ok with that.
 

nickqt

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And you think Newt invented this? Is it also your opinion that it isn't almost universal? Would you like a few examples from the liberal point of view? How about berthers, tea baggers, pro choice (it should reflect the actuality of the situation and be pro abortion). What you call "conjuring words" I would call marketing and vilification. That you fall prey to a different set of words isn't my problem at all. I know what I'm walking into when I hear them, do you?

I'm sorry that your offended by my liking newt, but life is full of little disappointments. I accept that you hate him, and I have no interest in trying to change your mind. In your words that makes me a rethuglian, stupid, an idiot, redneck, hillbilly, uneducated and a few more that slip my mind at the moment. I'm ok with that.
No, I don't think Newt invented it. And he wasn't the first to use it. I can think of some fairly-recent examples of people and governments who used terms to vilify their political opponents at every opportunity in order to consolidate power and divide the population into "us vs them" to scapegoat minorities.

How about you?

Teabagger is what the TeaParty™ called itself until they realized what the counterculture term meant. Birthers are people who swore up and down and all around that the Black Man in the White House wasn't a "real American", because, uh, obviously not race. Not to mention there is nothing inherently vilifying in the term "birther". And being pro-choice is just that. It's being for the woman having absolute control over her own organs. For example, I think it should be 100% legal for a woman to commit suicide. Which means she has the right to cut out her own uterus, or any other body part, if she so wishes. It's her choice.

And, please, quit projecting your own hatred onto me. I look at Newt, scumbag supreme, and see someone who seeds hatred in others by fucking literally using vilifying terms and propaganda to DEMONIZE political opponents, and I shake my head at how vile and disgusting it is.

You, and your tribe, who are extremely exclusive and attempt to deny as many people as possible from being members (Real America being rural areas not on the coasts, etc.) are the ones full of hate and fear.

So, keep on projecting your own hatred and fear while celebrating the people who've TRAINED you to think that way if you want.

I mean, you literally just hand-waved away a memo by your hero Gingrich called "Language: A Key Mechanism of CONTROL". Because to acknowledge that you're been trained to be controlled by language that these fucking scumbags use, would be, uh, uncomfortable for your, mentally.

Just understand that everyone who isn't a member of your specific, exclusive tribe, knows exactly who you are and what you believe no matter how much you attempt to hide it behind abstract terms you barely comprehend.

Keep on keepin' on.
 

zinfamous

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I always liked Newt, sharp guy, well spoken. Him and Chaney would have made a good team as prez and vp.

Ah. so, you're just an ignorant fool. Damn, I thought you might be one of the useful ones.

That's sad.

lol, Newt. He "speaks all good," therefore he is considered the braintrust of the modern conservative. No, I'm not repeating you--that is literally his title. He earned it decades ago. He misread some history books, convinced enough idiots that he was brilliant, and then you have the Newtists. The Newtered. The end of rational politics...and it was a strategy. Newt is a successful human, but he knows his limits, he knows his tiny mind, but he well knows he only needs to command those far, far less gifted than him. Those wholly incapable of calling him out for the drooling dilettante that he is.

"The smartest man in the room"...never a phrase more apropos of the modern conservative movement. By all accounts, Newt was a super smart-sounding guy in a room of wonks. There is something to be said for that. But of course, being super smart-sounding doesn't always translate to knowing a fucking thing. Harding was that sort of person: Super smart sounding, tall and handsome, caused an entire party to swoon....quickly become the most incompetent, corrupt, useless president until G Dubs showed up.

Then there is Rumsfeld. Also "Smartest guy in the room." By all accounts, really is a smart dude. He actually reads books, which is totally cool. A strange thing, really, for the people that call this guy a member, but he does it. He reads a lot. ...so did Kissinger, and so did Nixon. Super smart folks--but vile, vindictive, incompetent folks. For Rumsfeld, it was always "Hey, maybe this is a great idea...it sounds good...but oh, shit it doesn't actually work. 500k people. Dead. Well, whatever. Do-over, anyone?"

You can sound smart and actually even be smart, but if your ideas in practice are toxic, and wholly unsuccessful (everything that Newt is, by any metric), then you are useless. Prop him up, though: He sounds like, smart and stuff. Whatever makes you feel goods.