GOP first Presidential debate tonight on Fox at 9pm

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NoStateofMind

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My take on the debate.

Ron Paul - Positions haven't changed which is a good thing. His topics on debt reduction and ending foreign occupation are definitely what people want to hear. Paul has been preaching this for years. However he misspoke at one point and even stuttered during his closing argument.

Tim Pawlenty - He was clearly trying too hard to look "presidential". He came off as being fake IMO.

Rick Santorum - Bush #3. Should I say more? Idiot.

Herman Cain - The surprise of this debate if you ask me. Clearly a man who wants to take methodical steps before making a decision, at least thats the impression I got. He made a good point though. Being asked how he could run for president when he has never held any political office he responded (not exact words) "Well all the other presidential winners have held office. How's that working out for ya?" lol

Gary Johnson - I liked the answers he provided. Wants a common sense approach to fiscal responsibility. According to him all government spending would be held to a "cost benefit analysis" to determine the best way to spend or cut back. How'd he end up with the "Which reality TV show would you have" question? Worthless question IMO. He made light of it though.
 
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Liked most of Ron Paul and Gary Johnsons answers.

Hate Pawlenty and Santorum.

Cain is meh to me.
 
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How is the GOP even relevant in 2012? Oh well piss that anonymous corporate money away righties. Hopefully you get billions and bankrupt the corrupt GOP enablers/string pullers.

It will make the 2008 and upcoming 2012 total election landslide ownage all the more satisfying.
 
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TechBoyJK

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Hmmmm. Johnson is my favorite so far. He's got a great record with New Mexico, and I can't help but think he'd make the best financial decisions for the country. That's what the US really needs right now.
 
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The goofy group on Hannity liked Cain the best, why I have no idea, he kept repeating the same thing over and over, acting like he reveled in the sound of his own voice.
 
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ichy

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I'm no Obama fanboy, but if Rick "frothy mix" Santorum is nominated I will be cheering for four more years of Hope & Change.
 
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Cain's view on abortion make him a non-starter for any non-religious conservative.

Gary Johnson seems like the only viable candidate to me.
 
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ichy

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I've read that Gary Johnson has relatively liberal social views, and is skeptical of the War on Drugs. If there's any truth to this I might change my registration to Republican just so I can vote for him in the primary.
 
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ichy said:
I've read that Gary Johnson has relatively liberal social views, and is skeptical of the War on Drugs. If there's any truth to this I might change my registration to Republican just so I can vote for him in the primary.
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He is pretty much pro-choice(I don't know his personal views) but supports Roe v Wade. And is against the war on drugs as most libertarians are.
 
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Codewiz said:
He is pretty much pro-choice(I don't know his personal views) but supports Roe v Wade. And is against the war on drugs as most libertarians are.
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I just checked out his website and he openly compares the War on Drugs to alcohol Prohibition, along with advocating the legalization of Marijuana. I can't believe that someone has the courage to say the obvious truth on that issue. He's got my vote.
 
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I'll call Gary Johnson Mr. Amnesty.
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His proposal was to give illegals work visas (not citizenship as he repeated a couple times) so they can get documented, background check and a Social Security number which will in turn allow them to be taxed. Removes the "free ride" notion. I'm warming up to Gary's idea's quite a bit.
 
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His proposal was to give illegals work visas (not citizenship as he repeated a couple times) so they can get documented, background check and a Social Security number which will in turn allow them to be taxed. Removes the "free ride" notion. I'm warming up to Gary's idea's quite a bit.
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I saw on another interview Gary explain it in more detail.

He basically said "lets get real. We're not going to be rounding up 10million people any time soon. If we could, it would have happened by now. So rather than an unrealistic all or nothing approach, let's at least try and get these people on the radar. Let's get them documented. We don't have to give them services and benefits that citizen's enjoy, but we can at least get who they are in the system, figure out if they are bad people or not, and at least give them a legit, honest way to pay taxes to help cover what drain they are on society."

He then went on to say that after this is in place, we should THEN crack down on undocumented illegals since those who are hear honestly just to work, would have obviously got themselves documented by then.

Seems reasonable.
 
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The Greenville, SC Fox affiliate's morning show mentioned Gov. Johnson's and Rep. Paul's performance in the debate and commented how interesting it was to have a "Liberal" viewpoint in the Republican Party.

I think Rep. Paul already too marginalized within the party and Gov. Johnson far too sane for either man to have a chance of winning the Republican nomination.
 
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TechBoyJK said:
I saw on another interview Gary explain it in more detail.

He basically said "lets get real. We're not going to be rounding up 10million people any time soon. If we could, it would have happened by now. So rather than an unrealistic all or nothing approach, let's at least try and get these people on the radar. Let's get them documented. We don't have to give them services and benefits that citizen's enjoy, but we can at least get who they are in the system, figure out if they are bad people or not, and at least give them a legit, honest way to pay taxes to help cover what drain they are on society."

He then went on to say that after this is in place, we should THEN crack down on undocumented illegals since those who are hear honestly just to work, would have obviously got themselves documented by then.

Seems reasonable.
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Thank you for the explanation. It is not what I imagined it was. I suppose the focus of the answer on work visas threw me off, as if nothing else would be done. Still... any solution is pointless without the military on the border to curtail the inflow. I hope they realize that.
 
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ichy said:
I just checked out his website and he openly compares the War on Drugs to alcohol Prohibition, along with advocating the legalization of Marijuana. I can't believe that someone has the courage to say the obvious truth on that issue. He's got my vote.
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All of the libertarian types say this until they get elected and then it mysteriously disappears from their website and memories.
 
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