GOP fails to implement its own budget

dank69

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Cut spending sounds so good until you have to decide what to cut.

With this action, the House has declined to proceed on the implementation of the very budget it adopted just three months ago...

Bunch of God-damned clowns. :D
 

ivwshane

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Cut spending sounds so good until you have to decide what to cut.



Bunch of God-damned clowns. :D

No, clowns at least do their job. As far as I'm concerned they are just leeching off of Americans with their nice $174k salary all while doing nothing.

Bhoener said he should be judged by how many laws they repeal, that would number would be zero.
 

drebo

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Lol, what cuts? The ones that make government not function or the imaginary ones that one cut waste?

I'm pretty sure that closing some of our 100+ military bases around the world fall into neither of those categories.
 

cubby1223

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This isn't a surprise. Politicians prefer doing what will best win the next election instead of doing what is best for the fiscal health of the nation in many years to come.

I live in Illinois, where an out of control pension system was identified as a problem needing to be dealt with going at least back to 1959, 54 years ago. The legislature is *still* doing nothing to fix it. Our governor recently used his line-item veto powers to defund legislature salaries until pension reform is dealt with, and they still are doing absolutely nothing.

It's all about doing what's best for tomorrow, while 10 years from now be damned. It's a problem plaguing all politicians.
 

Juddog

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This isn't a surprise. Politicians prefer doing what will best win the next election instead of doing what is best for the fiscal health of the nation in many years to come.

I live in Illinois, where an out of control pension system was identified as a problem needing to be dealt with going at least back to 1959, 54 years ago. The legislature is *still* doing nothing to fix it. Our governor recently used his line-item veto powers to defund legislature salaries until pension reform is dealt with, and they still are doing absolutely nothing.

It's all about doing what's best for tomorrow, while 10 years from now be damned. It's a problem plaguing all politicians.

The current political atmosphere is one of gridlock. That's the downside of polarizing politics to the point it's gotten to now. Nothing gets done.
 

hal2kilo

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I don't get why their constituants are complaining.

Everybody I know wants to have their SS and Medicare cut to give tax cuts to the wealthy.
 

michal1980

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Anyone who thinks "cuts" is the solution to everything should practice coloring between the lines before they try to produce a rational coherent thought.

Oh look the typical lib response.

Cuts = bad. Can a lib brain function without government spending?
 

Fern

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So some bill most haven't heard of didn't pass right away and it's a big deal? Shrug, whatever.

We don't even know any details for its delay (or failure, depending).

Am I posting in a Dem circle jerk thread?

Fern
 

Paratus

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So some bill most haven't heard of didn't pass right away and it's a big deal? Shrug, whatever.

We don't even know any details for its delay (or failure, depending).

Am I posting in a Dem circle jerk thread?

Fern

The write ups I've seen in this basically point out this budget bill fractured the monolithic GOP block in the house. While they all agreed in principle with the Ryan budget when it came time to implement it in this bill the individual GOP congressmen balked at the impact of the cuts.

It appears that as of this moment on this bill they'd have a better chance passing a House democrat bill with a few Pubs then getting most of the pubs together.

So schadenfreude.
 

Fern

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The write ups I've seen in this basically point out this budget bill fractured the monolithic GOP block in the house. While they all agreed in principle with the Ryan budget when it came time to implement it in this bill the individual GOP congressmen balked at the impact of the cuts.

It appears that as of this moment on this bill they'd have a better chance passing a House democrat bill with a few Pubs then getting most of the pubs together.

So schadenfreude.

Thanks for add'l info.

I find the concept of a "monolithic GOP" silly. They're so badly split on so many things some have opined we may be seeing the emergence of a 3rd party.

Fern
 

BlueWolf47

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Oh look the typical lib response.

Cuts = bad. Can a lib brain function without government spending?

Of course targeted cuts in programs and agencies that have been over funded are necessary. However, we are no longer that far off from closing the deficit.

I know its hard for you to articulate a meaningful response but keep working hard at it.
 

sportage

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Republicans only goal was to quote "make Obama a one term president".
That failed.
So now they just play hate the black guy.

Lets just kick them out in 2014.
Long over due.
They pretend to hate big government but notice how they love their big government perks.
And the desire to retain them on a personal level.
Paul being the hypocritical jerk # 1 of the bunch.
 

ivwshane

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I see, but the Senate isn't a bunch of God-damned clowns for not passing a single Obama budget for over 3 years?

Sorry you failed again. The house and senate work on it concurrently in budget committees of their respective legislatures.

After receiving the President's budget request, Congress generally holds hearings to question Administration officials about their requests and then develops its own budget resolution. This work is done by the House and Senate Budget Committees, whose primary function is to draft and enforce the budget resolution. Once the committees are done, their budget resolutions go to the House and Senate floors, where they can be amended (by a majority vote). A House-Senate conference then resolves any differences, and a conference report is passed by both houses.
The budget resolution is a "concurrent" congressional resolution, not an ordinary bill, and therefore does not go to the President for his signature or veto. It also requires only a majority vote to pass, and its consideration is one of the few actions that cannot be filibustered in the Senate.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=155
 

michal1980

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Of course targeted cuts in programs and agencies that have been over funded are necessary. However, we are no longer that far off from closing the deficit.

I know its hard for you to articulate a meaningful response but keep working hard at it.

Its hard for your pea sized brain that keeps thinking, government spending more = good. To realize the goal should not be to just close the deficit.

Plus your like these phony republicans. Talk about cuts in general, but then can never do it in detail.
 

her209

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The biggest joke

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dank69

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I see, but the Senate isn't a bunch of God-damned clowns for not passing a single Obama budget for over 3 years?
The difference here is that these particular clowns passed the budget only a few months ago when it didn't have any details but now that they have to make good on their platitudes they are realizing that they are full of shit.

Anyone with any sense knows that "spending cuts" sound good but are not easy in reality. The GOP's entire platform revolves around these mythical spending cuts and only idiots believe they will be able to implement them without driving us back into recession.
 

zsdersw

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So some bill most haven't heard of didn't pass right away and it's a big deal? Shrug, whatever.

We don't even know any details for its delay (or failure, depending).

Am I posting in a Dem circle jerk thread?

Fern

Most haven't heard of the Ryan budget? Most average Americans, perhaps, but not most politicians/pundits/P&N regular posters.
 

zsdersw

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I see, but the Senate isn't a bunch of God-damned clowns for not passing a single Obama budget for over 3 years?

While that is a valid criticism, the focus of this thread is the House and the political lead balloon the Ryan budget truly is.