GOP busted trying to mis-lead voters....GOP sends letter appearing to be census form.

JEDIYoda

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I am not supriused at all......go figure...this would be funny if it wasn`t so serious....
I can see the GOP is really trying hard to attract voters.....
Very interesting read.....if I was a Republican I would be looking for a hole in the ground to hide my embarrasement for my party!!


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100125/ap_on_el_ge/us_gop_census

By STEVEN K. PAULSON, Associated Press Writer Steven K. Paulson, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 3 mins ago
DENVER – The Republican Party is seeking input and money from GOP voters — seemingly under the guise of the U.S. Census Bureau.

"Strengthening our Party for the 2010 elections is going to take a massive grassroots effort all across America. That is why I have authorized a Census to be conducted of every Congressional District in the country," GOP Chairman Michael Steele says in a letter mailed nationwide.

The letter was sent in plain white envelopes marked "Do Not Destroy, Official Document." Labeled "2010 Congressional District Census," the letter uses a capital "C," the same as the Census Bureau. It also includes a "Census Tracking Code."

The letter makes a plea for money and accompanies a form asking voters to identify their political leanings and issues important to them. There are no disclaimers that participation in the GOP effort is voluntary; participation in the government census is required by law. Failure to participate carries a $5,000 fine, though it is rarely enforced.

Sara Sendek, a Republican National Committee spokeswoman, said the letter was not an attempt to mislead voters.

"The document clearly indicates that it is an RNC mailer. The purpose of this document is to gather Republican opinion from across the country and raise a little money," Sendek said.

The letter asks political questions, including, "Do you think the record trillion dollar federal deficit the Democrats are creating with their out-of-control spending is going to have disastrous consequences for our nation?" and, "Do you worry that the Obama administration is committed to greatly expanding the government's role in your life?"

Democrats said the letter was part of a deceptive pattern by Republicans. They said it could mislead voters to believe it's part of the nationwide census being conducted this year. The Census Bureau officially begins its head count this week in rural Alaska; the count for the rest of the nation begins in March.

"When you have no new ideas to offer, all you are left with are the deceptive ideas," said Hari Sevugan, a Democratic National Committee spokesman.

U.S. Census Bureau spokesman Michael Cook says he has received several complaints over the past week from voters who believed the letter was misleading. Cook says the agency is still deciding what steps to take..

Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., asked the Postal Service to investigate complaints about the letters in December and was rebuffed. Ken Currier, manager of government relations for the postal service, said it's clear the document was not from the government. Maloney said she is considering legislation to make it clear such mailings are not allowed.

Among the recipients was Democratic Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, whose letter arrived at the governor's mansion.

"The Republicans have said they want to get a bigger tent," Schweitzer told The Associated Press, "so perhaps they are trying to lure a politician into the Republican Party that can actually balance a budget."
 
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SirStev0

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My GF's Grandmother apparently blew a few thousand on things like this from the NY Republican party before they diagnosed her with Vascular Dementia. They had no idea until her Lawyer (a fam friend) realized she was blowing through money and went through her records finding all these carefully worded scams sucking money out of her.
 

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I can see the GOP is really trying hard to attract voters.....

Nothing as bad as ACORN going on here, move along.

The letter asks political questions, including, "Do you think the record trillion dollar federal deficit the Democrats are creating with their out-of-control spending is going to have disastrous consequences for our nation?" and, "Do you worry that the Obama administration is committed to greatly expanding the government's role in your life?"

Oh, and I would have to answer YES to both of the above questions.

:D
 

nageov3t

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Michael Steele's kind of a scumbag.

this reminds me of when he was running for senate and started printing out Steele Democrat stickers and tried to trick voters into thinking that he wasn't a republican.
 

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I've personally seen one of these letters. You'd have to be a complete idiot to think it was anything other than a fundraising letter.

Fern
 

PJABBER

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Michael Steele's kind of a scumbag.

this reminds me of when he was running for senate and started printing out Steele Democrat stickers and tried to trick voters into thinking that he wasn't a republican.

You mean like "REAGAN DEMOCRAT"? I know THAT bumper sticker fooled a lot of voters!

:awe:
 

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I've personally seen one of these letters. You'd have to be a complete idiot to think it was anything other than a fundraising letter.

Fern

Yup.

But lets just throw a temper tantrum because we aren't getting out way on health care and Obama's poll numbers are TANKING.

Oh ya. Forgot to mention that the only way you will get one is if you are a registered Republican or sign up for one on their web site.
 
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I am not supriused at all......go figure...this would be funny if it wasn`t so serious....
I can see the GOP is really trying hard to attract voters.....
Very interesting read.....

if I was a Republican I would be looking for a hole in the ground to hide my embarrasement for my party!!

Are you kidding? You ain't seen nothing yet.

They will make Madoff look like a Saint, just look at the GOP posters in here.
 

Patranus

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Are you kidding? You ain't seen nothing yet.

They will make Madoff look like a Saint, just look at the GOP posters in here.

Madoff was a major donor to the Democrat party. You might want to pick another example next time....

(just saying)
 

Genx87

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I've personally seen one of these letters. You'd have to be a complete idiot to think it was anything other than a fundraising letter.

Fern

You have to remember the party trying to make something of this has a history of their voters not able to figure out a ballot.
 

PJABBER

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I'm unaware of any instance where Ronald Reagan engaged in a campaign to convince voters that he was a democrat.

Why do you believe Steele did? Especially as he was, as REPUBLICAN Lieutenant Governor, completely identified as Bob Ehrlich, Republican Governor in Maryland? And Steele was Chairman of the Prince Georges County Republican Central Committee, Chairman of Maryland Republican Party, etc. etc. etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Steele

No one in Maryland, a very Blue State, thought he was a Democrat, ever. Though there were plenty of "Steele Democrats" that helped put him and Bob Ehrlich in office.

You must really think voters are stupid.
 
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JEDIYoda

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I've personally seen one of these letters. You'd have to be a complete idiot to think it was anything other than a fundraising letter.

Fern

So are you saying your an idiot??? heheh...I`ve seen one of those letters also and there are quite a few idiots out there who voted for Palin/McCain.......
 

Patranus

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So are you saying your an idiot??? heheh...I`ve seen one of those letters also and there are quite a few idiots out there who voted for Palin/McCain.......

Again, the only people who get these are people who signed up for them in one way or another.

If this was sent to every US household unsolicited than you *might* have a point.
 

PJABBER

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So are you saying your an idiot??? heheh...I`ve seen one of those letters also and there are quite a few idiots out there who voted for Palin/McCain.......

Trolling, trolling, trolling down the stream! Merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream!

:)
 

Amused

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How very convenient you left this part out of your cut and paste:

Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., asked the Postal Service to investigate complaints about the letters in December and was rebuffed. Ken Currier, manager of government relations for the postal service, said it's clear the document was not from the government. Maloney said she is considering legislation to make it clear such mailings are not allowed.

Nothing to see here, folks.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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How very convenient you left this part out of your cut and paste:

Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., asked the Postal Service to investigate complaints about the letters in December and was rebuffed. Ken Currier, manager of government relations for the postal service, said it's clear the document was not from the government. Maloney said she is considering legislation to make it clear such mailings are not allowed.

Nothing to see here, folks.

I agree, but some Alzheimer patient is going to think it's mandatory. Not that I'm arguing "Alzheimer Liberation", but some people particularly the elderly do get confused. It wouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out there are better ways than this.
 

Craig234

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How very convenient you left this part out of your cut and paste:

Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., asked the Postal Service to investigate complaints about the letters in December and was rebuffed. Ken Currier, manager of government relations for the postal service, said it's clear the document was not from the government. Maloney said she is considering legislation to make it clear such mailings are not allowed.

Nothing to see here, folks.

Just because they carefully stay within the line of the law not to actually claim to be from the US Census, doesn't mean they're not misleading. I've received similar mailing and they are designed to mislead.
 

Craig234

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Even when Ronny was a Democrat?

Yes, when Ronny was a Democrat, he wasn't running for office.

His political entrance began as the AMA's national spokesma to oppose medicare in the JFK election., calling it a 'socialist program'.

He rose in the Repubolican party as it was clear he was happy to serve corporate interests as a whore and do PR with the public, as he had as spokesman for GE.