GOP begins to do the right thing......until!

[HomerJS]

So with all the Hillary Rosen Ann Romney flap the Catholic league a prominent Republican intrest group piled on Rosen with the following...

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rnc-...e-encouraging-adoption-not-demeaning-parents/

“Unlike Rosen, who had to adopt kids, Ann raised 5 of her own.” Communications director for the RNC

The Catholic League thought it was a good time to criticize Rosen who happens to be lesbian for adopting kids in lieu of haveing them the traditional way.

RNC communications director Sean Spicer replied with the following...

Sean Spicer, quickly addressed the remark and said the League shouldn’t be demeaning parents who adopt.

While Spicers reply is a bit self serving in light of the flap it was the right thing to do sticking up for Hillary Rosen, until.................

Someone happen to note Spicer(RNC) was supporting gays adopting kids. So now what do the Republicans do, stick to principle do the right thing and reiterate their support for Ronsen? Not quite....

Followup tweet from Spicer...
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/04/12/463659/rnc-rose/

@drdigipol: Love it. RNC’s @SeanSpicer endorses #LGBT cple adoption in@HilaryR v Ann Romney debate. http://bit.ly/HM0eT6http://bit.ly/Ibup1H #p2 #tcot

@seanspicer: that is not what i said RT @drdigipol: Love it. RNC’s @SeanSpicer

Shame stuck between doing the right thing or revert to back to the traditional GOP playbook regarding gay people. Guess we know what wins out.

 

[xBiffx]

So the League makes the observation that Rosen adopted while Romney did not. I didn't see anything else added to that statement otherwise. No criticizing or other commentary was made. Faux outrage yet again.

 

[Craig234]

You said it well.

This has nothing to do with anything but the Republican party's pursuit of power for wealth for the 0.01% - and when their pandering to 'social conservatives' gets them in trouble with women, they create phony attacks. Oh no, Hillary Rosen said Mitt Romney's 'female issues' expert, his wife, hadn't had to deal with the bad economy like working women have, who aren't married to men worth $240 million.

So we get this phony attack on Rosen as 'the Democrats' saying it's 'an attack not respecting women's choices' - a lie - to try to let them lie that they're 'on women's side'.

Unfortunately, the politics of it have had the Democrats play along by 'apologizing' and 'disagreeing' with the phony version the Republicans are claiming.

You're right on about the Republicans on the gay parents' issue.

Yet more of the same pandering to the bigots to get votes, which they seem to always be happy to do up to the point there are more votes if they back off. Disgraceful.

 

[HomerJS]

So the League makes the observation that Rosen adopted while Romney did not. I didn't see anything else added to that statement otherwise. No criticizing or other commentary was made. Faux outrage yet again.

They didn't say she adopted, they said she had to.

Frankly I didn't even know she was gay until yesterday.

 

[woolfe9999]

This whole issue is a stupid side show.

Seriously.

 

[Craig234]

Here's a very good Rachel Maddow clip summaraizing the issue:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#47036545

 

[xBiffx]

They didn't say she adopted, they said she had to.

Frankly I didn't even know she was gay until yesterday.

Again, an accurate observation. What is the outrage in calling out the obvious. They are trying to simply state the two women are very different and come from very different perspectives. Obvious is obvious until faux outrage is needed.

 

[xBiffx]

This whole issue is a stupid side show.

Seriously.

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[Ausm]

This whole issue is a stupid side show.

Seriously.

Desperate attempt from the Right to gin up any controversy to help their woeful numbers when it comes to wooing over the Female vote.

 

[Craig234]

Desperate attempt from the Right to gin up any controversy to help their woeful numbers when it comes to wooing over the Female vote.

There are a few basic marketing techniques. It's amazing how much they're exploited.

Ya, Democrats are doing one with 'Republicans' war on women', but it's legit.

At least, by the standards of the 'war on' attacks - where Republcans have attacked Democrats for countless 'wars' - on religion, energy, Christman, coal, and dozens more.

 

[woolfe9999]

Desperate attempt from the Right to gin up any controversy to help their woeful numbers when it comes to wooing over the Female vote.

Probably. Either way, it's consuming more oxygen than is warranted by its importance. It's one of those things that you think is going to stick around for maybe one news cycle, but it just doesn't go away.

 

[werepossum]

They didn't say she adopted, they said she had to.

Frankly I didn't even know she was gay until yesterday.

Have you SEEN Rosen?

Some women embrace lesbianism; others have lesbianism forced on them. Rosen couldn't get a man if she was towing a new bass boat. Women (or at least lesbians) are able to see past the pudgy fugly exterior and embrace the interior ugly.

/attempted humor

This whole issue is a stupid side show.

Seriously.

LOL True. Rosen launched a DNC attack and it backfired major league, but in the end this whole "war on women" is nothing but distraction. Gotta give the DNC credit though, politically it's brilliant even if this particular firing squad had its own toes in the sights.

 

[xBiffx]

Rosen couldn't get a man if she was towing a new bass boat.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Again, an accurate observation. What is the outrage in calling out the obvious. They are trying to simply state the two women are very different and come from very different perspectives. Obvious is obvious until faux outrage is needed.

Here is the entire tweet:

Lesbian Dem Hilary Rosen tells Ann Romney she never worked a day in her life. Unlike Rosen, who had to adopt kids, Ann raised 5 of her own.

In context, that tweet is saying that having biological children is inherently better than adopting. There's no reason to throw in the line about Rosen adopting children unless you're saying via comparison that biological offspring are superior. Speaking as someone who was adopted by lesbians, that's incredibly fucking offensive, and the moron that wrote it is an asshole. I don't care about the stupid "war on women" or all that other nonsense; it's a complete sideshow. But you don't go sending out tweets that imply that adopted children aren't as good as biological children.

 

[Jhhnn]

Probably. Either way, it's consuming more oxygen than is warranted by its importance. It's one of those things that you think is going to stick around for maybe one news cycle, but it just doesn't go away.

It sticks around because Repubs are caught in their own inconsistencies, basically waging the War on Women even as they try to deny it.

I'm not even sure they realize they're doing it, wrapped in their cocoon of ideological denial & male dominated "values", but they are, and Dems will exploit that.

When American women look at repub politicians & come to the conclusion that "They don't get it, do they?", then Dems will agree, and point out their strong and continuing support for women's issues, families in need, and social justice in general. "We get it- we're with you."

It's a dead bang loser for Repubs, so they desperately want it to go away, but they'll be damned if they'll change their ways to make it happen.

 

[woolfe9999]

Have you SEEN Rosen?

Some women embrace lesbianism; others have lesbianism forced on them. Rosen couldn't get a man if she was towing a new bass boat. Women (or at least lesbians) are able to see past the pudgy fugly exterior and embrace the interior ugly.

/attempted humor


LOL True. Rosen launched a DNC attack and it backfired major league, but in the end this whole "war on women" is nothing but distraction. Gotta give the DNC credit though, politically it's brilliant even if this particular firing squad had its own toes in the sights.

I don't think the "war on women" is a distraction. Which is not to say I approve of the partisan spun formulation of it as a war on women. What I mean is there is a real disagreement about women's issues between the two parties. And in the short term, it does look like the slate of legislation that has been backed by the GOP in various states is hurting them with female voters. Some of that is probably due to over-spin by the dems, but some of it is also due to reality.

What's a waste of oxygen is this business about Rosen in particular. First of all, she's a nobody. Second, her remarks were more in the vein of class warfare than gender warfare. Class warfare rhetoric from a dem pundit is hardly a major news story. Third, no one is going to remember this one way or the other in November.

 

[ky54]

Let's see - if you're a white woman who's happy raising their children while battling breast cancer instead of drowning them in a bathtub then you're someone who shouldn't even be afforded the same rights we give prisoners. Really, Rosen can go piss off. Look at her history and see who she hates and then think if you're one of them.

 

[Craig234]

It sticks around because Repubs are caught in their own inconsistencies, basically waging the War on Women even as they try to deny it.

I'm not even sure they realize they're doing it, wrapped in their cocoon of ideological denial & male dominated "values", but they are, and Dems will exploit that.

When American women look at repub politicians & come to the conclusion that "They don't get it, do they?", then Dems will agree, and point out their strong and continuing support for women's issues, families in need, and social justice in general. "We get it- we're with you."

It's a dead bang loser for Repubs, so they desperately want it to go away, but they'll be damned if they'll change their ways to make it happen.

The Rpeublicans naturally want to have it both ways - wage the war on women to get social conservative votes, and deny it to minimize the damage.

It's sort of like how they talk 'anti-spending' all day but only put it in policy when it comes to spending on the American people - but run huge deficits for their donors.

It's how Reagan is both the 'big talker' on anti-debt, while creating the modern era of massive deficits. Both ways - the most corruption, but say it's the DEMOCRATS.

 

[xBiffx]

In context, that tweet is saying that having biological children is inherently better than adopting.

The tweet simply doesn't say that. You can assume what you want but only a partisan takes offense with the League stating the obvious. Rosen is a lesbian, check. Rosen adopted her children, check. Romney raised her own children, check. If the tweet says anything more than what was stated it just to outline the differences between the two women. One simply cannot know where the other is coming from.

 

[Bird222]

The tweet simply doesn't say that. You can assume what you want but only a partisan takes offense with the League stating the obvious. Rosen is a lesbian, check. Rosen adopted her children, check. Romney raised her own children, check. If the tweet says anything more than what was stated it just to outline the differences between the two women. One simply cannot know where the other is coming from.

Are you really telling us that you don't get that they are saying AR is better than Rosen for raising '5 of her own'? If so, then why did Sean Spicer feel the need to tweet on it? And he's a republican.

 

[xBiffx]

Are you really telling us that you don't get that they are saying AR is better than Rosen for raising '5 of her own'? If so, then why did Sean Spicer feel the need to tweet on it? And he's a republican.

You would have to ask Mr. Spicer that.

 

[dainthomas]

So the League makes the observation that Rosen adopted while Romney did not. I didn't see anything else added to that statement otherwise. No criticizing or other commentary was made. Faux outrage yet again.

"Unlike Rosen, who had to adopt kids, Ann raised 5 of her own"

My adopted daughter is my own. To say otherwise is extremely demeaning and disrespectful. :thumbsdown:

 

[Bird222]

You would have to ask Mr. Spicer that.

Point is Mr. Spicer is not a democratic partisan and he felt the need to speak out. However, according to you only a partisan would be outraged.

 

[xBiffx]

"Unlike Rosen, who had to adopt kids, Ann raised 5 of her own"

My adopted daughter is my own. To say otherwise is extremely demeaning and disrespectful. :thumbsdown:

That may be but its also accurate. She is not your flesh and blood. I am not saying any of this to be disrespectful, just truthful/accurate. The truth hurts sometimes.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

"Unlike Rosen, who had to adopt kids, Ann raised 5 of her own"

My adopted daughter is my own. To say otherwise is extremely demeaning and disrespectful. :thumbsdown:

Exactly. I had to deal with that shit in grade school; "yeah, but who's your REAL mom?" Bitch, they're both my real mom. Just because I don't share their genetics doesn't make them not my mothers... It's a childish place to come from and a foolish statement to make, ESPECIALLY over Twitter (don't hit send, dammit!).