google to buy you tube?

theNEOone

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searched for google and youtube. nada.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/10/06/co...y-unsubstantiated-googleyoutube-rumor/

I got an email tonight about a possible Google acquisition of YouTube that may be in the final stages before closing. Rumored price is $1.6 billion. A quick phone call to a VC confirmed that the rumor is circulating (he also confirmed the price), but that is far from confirmation that this deal is happening. I?m digging for more but the source on this one is very good.

We know that YouTube has had informal talks with a number of companies about acquisition in the $1.5 - $2 billion range. And I suspect Google won?t be daunted by the prospect of dealing with a ton of pissed off copyright holders.

Based on experience with these sort of rumors, I?d put this at 40% likely to be at least partially true.


the wall street journal has apparently confirmed the rumors.
Google Inc. is in talks to acquire popular video-sharing site YouTube Inc. for roughly $1.6 billion, according to a person familiar with the matter. The discussions are still at a sensitive stage and could well break off, this person says.

A spokeswoman for YouTube could not be reached for comment. A Google spokesman said, "We don't comment on rumors and speculation." Rumors of such talks were reported earlier on the TechCrunch blog.

Founded in Feb. 2005, closely-held YouTube is the poster child for the boom in online video. The company says consumers view videos -- which range from short home videos to clips recorded from TV shows -- over 100 million times daily through its service and upload more than 65,000 videos each day. YouTube, San Mateo, Calif., has efforts underway to generate more advertising revenue from such traffic. At the same time, it's trying to address some media companies' concerns about the presence of video on YouTube's site that was uploaded without the content owners' permission.

A purchase of YouTube could give a big boost to the online video efforts of Google. YouTube commanded 46% of visits to U.S. online video sites in August, according to market research firm Hitwise. That compared to a 23% share for the video activities of News Corp.'s MySpace social-networking site, and 10% for Google Video.

The discussions are the latest evidence of a land grab underway by Internet and media companies looking to extend their reach on the Web. Yahoo Inc. and other technology and media companies have held discussions about acquiring social networking site Facebook Inc. for amounts in the range of $1 billion or higher, say people familiar with the matter. News Corp. spent $650 million to buy MySpace last year.

Rumors circulated earlier this year that some major media companies expressed interest in buying closely-held YouTube. Chief Executive Chad Hurley said at the time that the company was not for sale and an IPO in the future was a possibility.

The transaction would mark one of the largest acquisitions for Google, which had nearly $10 billion in cash at the end of June. To date, the Mountain View, Calif., firm has focused mostly on smaller targets such as Pyra Labs, the company behind the Blogger service, online photo-search firm Picasa and satellite-mapping company Keyhole. Google has spent heavily to secure places to display and broker ads. In August it pledged $900 million in payments to MySpace to broker ads on the site, and in December it paid $1 billion for a stake in AOL as part of an advertising pact.

YouTube has stood out from the growing crop of online video services for its simplicity. YouTube serves up videos that generally can be viewed without users downloading special software. It also let consumers display its videos on other sites, such as blogs or personal pages on MySpace.

Last month, the company announced a new system to give media companies more control over the video on the site and to address their fears that others will profit from consumers' piracy of their content. Warner Music Group is the first entertainment company to embrace the system. It will post its catalog of music videos on YouTube and collect an unspecified percentage of the revenue from advertising appearing alongside them.


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Safeway

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Noooo.

What about all the nudity and such? Google will G-rated-ify it.
 

Xyo II

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Is it 1.6 million or billion? You have million in the summary. That would be a hell of a acquisition though.
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: Einstein Element
Is it 1.6 million or billion? You have million in the summary. That would be a hell of a acquisition though.

It's definitely worth more than 1.6 million...
 

HendrixFan

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Any amount would be a steal for YouTube, even $1.6 million. The only reason they haven't been sued yet is that they have no money to be sued for. Apparently, copyright holders are just waiting for some stupid company to buy them up so that they can be sued into oblivion.

YouTube bleeds money terribly, has no business model to make revenue, and when bought they will be sued into extinction. Only a fool would buy them up, at any price.
 

ChaoZ

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Originally posted by: Pastore
Originally posted by: Einstein Element
Is it 1.6 million or billion? You have million in the summary. That would be a hell of a acquisition though.

It's definitely worth more than 1.6 million...

And yet not worth 1.6 billion.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: HendrixFan
Any amount would be a steal for YouTube, even $1.6 million. The only reason they haven't been sued yet is that they have no money to be sued for. Apparently, copyright holders are just waiting for some stupid company to buy them up so that they can be sued into oblivion.

YouTube bleeds money terribly, has no business model to make revenue, and when bought they will be sued into extinction. Only a fool would buy them up, at any price.

I would tend to agree
 

K1052

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Well then Google is apparently run by morons, at least according to Mark Cuban.

 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: HendrixFan
Any amount would be a steal for YouTube, even $1.6 million. The only reason they haven't been sued yet is that they have no money to be sued for. Apparently, copyright holders are just waiting for some stupid company to buy them up so that they can be sued into oblivion.

YouTube bleeds money terribly, has no business model to make revenue, and when bought they will be sued into extinction. Only a fool would buy them up, at any price.

No business model? Wonder how much ESPN payed for this page. Right there is your business model. Where there are people watching stupid home made videos there will be companies paying for eyeballs hitting their ads.
 

PottedMeat

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do they even make enough money to break even on bandwidth costs? i mean i dont see any ads on there.
 

yllus

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If YouTube does not place short ads in front of clips it hosts (maybe only the clips longer than 60 secs), sooner or later it is dead.

Google would be stupid to buy them right now, but maybe they have a plan.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: mobiblu
don't google already have google video...why need youtube?

Exactly. I already like Google Video better than YouTube, but it's missing the social aspects of it. Maybe Google should integrate some of their Orkut blogging technology into it to fix that. It would be a lot cheaper than 2 billion to pull it off, anyway, and they would probably do a better job of it.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Pastore
Originally posted by: HendrixFan
Any amount would be a steal for YouTube, even $1.6 million. The only reason they haven't been sued yet is that they have no money to be sued for. Apparently, copyright holders are just waiting for some stupid company to buy them up so that they can be sued into oblivion.

YouTube bleeds money terribly, has no business model to make revenue, and when bought they will be sued into extinction. Only a fool would buy them up, at any price.

No business model? Wonder how much ESPN payed for this page. Right there is your business model. Where there are people watching stupid home made videos there will be companies paying for eyeballs hitting their ads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmHCVwJ3EhU&mode=user&search= :D
 

theNEOone

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Originally posted by: Pastore
Originally posted by: HendrixFan
Any amount would be a steal for YouTube, even $1.6 million. The only reason they haven't been sued yet is that they have no money to be sued for. Apparently, copyright holders are just waiting for some stupid company to buy them up so that they can be sued into oblivion.

YouTube bleeds money terribly, has no business model to make revenue, and when bought they will be sued into extinction. Only a fool would buy them up, at any price.

No business model? Wonder how much ESPN payed for this page. Right there is your business model. Where there are people watching stupid home made videos there will be companies paying for eyeballs hitting their ads.
exactly. the public perception of youtube bleeding money seemed like some sort of phenomenon to most people. they'll be making muchos buckos very soon. youtube recently stopped looking for VC capital which indicates they'll start operating in the black. or at least, they think they will.

now, as far as the copyright infringement goes, that's another issue.


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Rubycon

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Why would they buy something that's going to be shut down for copyright infringement?