Google street view is in the news again

jaqie

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Google has said that it is currently working on ways to automatically blur the faces of anyone their lenses snap so as to preserve their privacy (and, in some cases, their modesty)
For the record if they got me somehow and posted it on the net I would be just as angry. Taking pictures of people without their permission is in a grey area of the law at least, and posting them on the net without their knowledge or permission is definitely illegal. They need to set up an automatic face blur.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Google has said that it is currently working on ways to automatically blur the faces of anyone their lenses snap so as to preserve their privacy (and, in some cases, their modesty)
Taking pictures of people without their permission is in a grey area of the law at least, and posting them on the net without their knowledge or permission is definitely illegal. .

no its not
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Google has said that it is currently working on ways to automatically blur the faces of anyone their lenses snap so as to preserve their privacy (and, in some cases, their modesty)
For the record if they got me somehow and posted it on the net I would be just as angry. Taking pictures of people without their permission is in a grey area of the law at least, and posting them on the net without their knowledge or permission is definitely illegal. They need to set up an automatic face blur.

Actually taking pictures of people in a public area is fine.

And people also want their houses not in, their dogs, etc..

I think I'm going to launch a website.

GoogleStreetView2.0

and you can just explore any city in america, and when you look at the street, BAM! Just one big blur.

(If anybody has the time / effort to do this, I'd host it for them. - -;;)
 

jaqie

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You do realize that they are taking pictures of folks at their homes, right? That's what I was arguing.
 

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Google has said that it is currently working on ways to automatically blur the faces of anyone their lenses snap so as to preserve their privacy (and, in some cases, their modesty)
For the record if they got me somehow and posted it on the net I would be just as angry. Taking pictures of people without their permission is in a grey area of the law at least, and posting them on the net without their knowledge or permission is definitely illegal. They need to set up an automatic face blur.

You look in any newspapers, or local newscasts, you'll see people in the street having their picture taken and posted. I would say there is nothing gray about taking some ones picture in public, there is no expectation of privacy.
 
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Originally posted by: jaqie
Google has said that it is currently working on ways to automatically blur the faces of anyone their lenses snap so as to preserve their privacy (and, in some cases, their modesty)
For the record if they got me somehow and posted it on the net I would be just as angry. Taking pictures of people without their permission is in a grey area of the law at least, and posting them on the net without their knowledge or permission is definitely illegal. They need to set up an automatic face blur.

The girl in that picture clearly wanted to be seen. Not everybody would want to be, but that girl wanted to be seen for sure.

I don't think posting pictures of a person without their knowledge or permission is illegal, unless it violates some ToS. The only other way it would be illegal AFAIK would be if it was taken on private property. If it was illegal to post pic's of people without their knowledge or consent, then why doesn't Youtube get sued over 1/2 their video content? Also what about people posting vacation pictures that have others in it?

I agree with the facial blur though, and Google should do it.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Google has said that it is currently working on ways to automatically blur the faces of anyone their lenses snap so as to preserve their privacy (and, in some cases, their modesty)
For the record if they got me somehow and posted it on the net I would be just as angry. Taking pictures of people without their permission is in a grey area of the law at least, and posting them on the net without their knowledge or permission is definitely illegal. They need to set up an automatic face blur.

How many thousands of pictures do you think you have accidently been caught in while in public? What then?

Perhaps you should not venture out in public if this is an issue for you.
 

jaqie

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It's amazing how people take one single sentence and ignore the rest of the post.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: jaqie
You do realize that they are taking pictures of folks at their homes, right? That's what I was arguing.

legally if I?m standing in the street (public property) I can take a picture of anything/anyone I see and do basically whatever I want with it unless I?m using it for profit, if that?s the case you need a release that allows you to use it in that way
 
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Originally posted by: jaqie
You do realize that they are taking pictures of folks at their homes, right? That's what I was arguing.

The first time this came up yes, it was of the persons home. Google drove the car into their driveway, and took pictures of their home. From that article at least it seems as if the issue is that pictures are being taken of people in public places (sidewalks, streets, etc), which unless there is a law I am missing is not illegal.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: jaqie
You do realize that they are taking pictures of folks at their homes, right? That's what I was arguing.

But from a public street..

I love Privacy just as much as anyone else (hell, I'm an EFF member for goodness sake), but I can't believe how much flak Google is getting over this.
 

2Xtreme21

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Why don't you just have a law banning looking at other people's property? Or hell, looking at other people? I shouldn't have to be worried about getting sued if I look over and see someone walking out of the porn store as I'm driving along the road.
 

illusion88

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Google has said that it is currently working on ways to automatically blur the faces of anyone their lenses snap so as to preserve their privacy (and, in some cases, their modesty)
For the record if they got me somehow and posted it on the net I would be just as angry. Taking pictures of people without their permission is in a grey area of the law at least, and posting them on the net without their knowledge or permission is definitely illegal. They need to set up an automatic face blur.

Nope. If I take a picture of you, that's my image, not yours. I can do whatever I want with it. The rights to any image belong to the photographer, not the subject.
 

jaqie

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Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Why don't you just have a law banning looking at other people's property?
It's called the constitutional right to privacy. This applies to people when in their home even if the window is open and uncurtained.
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Why don't you just have a law banning looking at other people's property?
It's called the constitutional right to privacy. This applies to people when in their home even if the window is open and uncurtained.

So if you're walking down the sidewalk in front of my house and you do so much as glance in the general direction of my property, I should be able to sue you for all you're worth?
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Why don't you just have a law banning looking at other people's property?
It's called the constitutional right to privacy. This applies to people when in their home even if the window is open and uncurtained.

She's standing in the street.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: jaqie
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Why don't you just have a law banning looking at other people's property?
It's called the constitutional right to privacy. This applies to people when in their home even if the window is open and uncurtained.

standing in front of your house is different then someone useing a zoom to look into your windows

google is NOT useing a zoom to look in your windows


http://www.usatoday.com/tech/c...2-29-camera-laws_x.htm

If you can see it, you can shoot it

Let's get the easy stuff out of the way. Aside from sensitive government buildings (e.g., military bases), if you're on public property you can photograph anything you like, including private property. There are some limits ? using a zoom lens to shoot someone who has a reasonable expectation of privacy isn't covered ? but no one can come charging out of a business and tell you not to take photos of the building, period.

Further, they cannot demand your camera or your digital media or film. Well, they can demand it, but you are under no obligation to give it to them. In fact, only an officer of the law or court can take it from you, and then only with a court order. And if they try or threaten you? They can be charged with theft or coercion, and you may even have civil recourse. Cool. (For details, see "The Photographer's Right.")

It gets better.

You can take photos any place that's open to the public, whether or not it's private property. A mall, for example, is open to the public. So are most office buildings (at least the lobbies). You don't need permission; if you have permission to enter, you have permission to shoot.

In fact, there are very few limits to what you're allowed to photograph. Separately, there are few limits to what you're allowed to publish. And the fact that they're separate issues ? shooting and publishing ? is important. We'll get to that in a moment.

You can take any photo that does not intrude upon or invade the privacy of a person, if that person has a reasonable expectation of privacy. Someone walking in a mall or on the street? Fair game. Someone standing in a corner, looking at his new Prozac prescription? No. Using a long lens to shoot someone in an apartment? No.

Note that the limits have nothing to do with where you are when you take the shots; it's all about the subject's expectation of privacy. You can be on private property (a mall or office-building lobby), or even be trespassing and still legally take pictures. Whether you can be someplace and whether you can take pictures are two completely separate issues.
 

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Originally posted by: jaqie
It's amazing how people take one single sentence and ignore the rest of the post.

Jesus - 1500 posts in 5 weeks. Slow down & maybe you could have made your point clearer in the first post.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: illusion88
Originally posted by: jaqie
Google has said that it is currently working on ways to automatically blur the faces of anyone their lenses snap so as to preserve their privacy (and, in some cases, their modesty)
For the record if they got me somehow and posted it on the net I would be just as angry. Taking pictures of people without their permission is in a grey area of the law at least, and posting them on the net without their knowledge or permission is definitely illegal. They need to set up an automatic face blur.

Nope. If I take a picture of you, that's my image, not yours. I can do whatever I want with it. The rights to any image belong to the photographer, not the subject.

yeah seriously, welcome to photography. People take pictures of others without the subject knowing all the time, sometimes doing things they would prefer others not see. Permission is not necessary.

Hell, if I was the one who fell off the bike, I'd be laughing that they happened to catch me right at the moment. People need to lighten up. There are worse things in the world then someone having taken a photograph of you. Hell, means your guard was down. What if they had a gun and that was the scope. Boom, dead. Pay attention to your surroundings if you don't want to have a photograph taken of you, ever. ;)
always comes down to insecurity/vanity imho. people bitch too much.

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: jaqie
Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Why don't you just have a law banning looking at other people's property?
It's called the constitutional right to privacy. This applies to people when in their home even if the window is open and uncurtained.

She's standing in the street.

Lifting her shirt up.

Jaqie this is NOT about the first Street View issue where they were driving in peoples driveway. This is about taking pictures of people in public places, on public roads/sidewalks.

Originally posted by: illusion88
Originally posted by: jaqie
Google has said that it is currently working on ways to automatically blur the faces of anyone their lenses snap so as to preserve their privacy (and, in some cases, their modesty)
For the record if they got me somehow and posted it on the net I would be just as angry. Taking pictures of people without their permission is in a grey area of the law at least, and posting them on the net without their knowledge or permission is definitely illegal. They need to set up an automatic face blur.

Nope. If I take a picture of you, that's my image, not yours. I can do whatever I want with it. The rights to any image belong to the photographer, not the subject.

QFT
 

MegaVovaN

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Hell, if I was the one who fell off the bike, I'd be laughing that they happened to catch me right at the moment. People need to lighten up. There are worse things in the world then someone having taken a photograph of you. Hell, means your guard was down. What if they had a gun and that was the scope. Boom, dead. Pay attention to your surroundings if you don't want to have a photograph taken of you, ever. ;)
always comes down to insecurity/vanity imho. people bitch too much.
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Demo24

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I kind of wonder if she really expects to get anything as google took out the image of her exposing herself, look for yourself if you want

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