Google is now Big Brother....

[zinfamous]

Aren't you also part of the problem by using the services which push forward such a dangerous philosophy?

I do like the 'failed humanity' hyperbole though. I guess you're 'saving humanity' by complaining about the lack of privacy while still willfully giving it up.

I do use Google.


I don't use Facebook or twitter or whatever.

I have no real issue with what Facebook is--currently.

I have serious concerns with Zuckerburg and his core philosophy, which is patently dangerous

 

[Gibson486]

Then how are you a member of Linked-In? That's how it works. I looks at your contact lists for others and then looks at their contact lists for anyone shared by more than one of your contacts that isn't linked to you and then suggests that you link them. It actually doesn't need an email if it can ID them from some other bit of info. in order to do something with that list you sent, she probably made an electronic contact list out of it and then it got synced.

Ummm...you misunderstand...The only evidence of me knowing lots of these people are in the excel spread sheet. We do not have those people's email address ANYWHERE and we still do not know it. I only speak to these people on phone or in person and never by email because they are not close family. I only know their address because it's in an excel sheet that I made from a information from my Rolodex.

 

[Jeff7]

Sweet jesus.

You really don't understand how much of your personal life is going to be known to government, healthcare and advertisers... and how those details are going to weigh in on so many decisions.

Yeah. Hellooooo datamining.
Hm, there's a correlation between people who enjoy "Poker Face," drive green cars, and tend to buy Rubbermaid brand trash cans on Thursdays; and a 50% greater risk of dying before age 40.
Health insurance application declined. Buy Sterlite on Fridays instead. Sponsored by Sterlite. Vote Quimby.




Though, all of this will make the Information Security career field explode. :hmm:[/QUOTE]
It'll also make the Information Theft career field even more lucrative. :\

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While this technological world has it's positives, one negative of it is we do not have any privacy. I guess it's not bad if you have nothing to hide. All our moves are tracked through money transactions, web transactions etc...

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Nothing to hide.
Who's deciding what's acceptable and what's not?
Oh, you like the color purple? The new government has decreed that those who enjoy purple things shall be put to death.
You have nothing to hide though, right?

There are extremists out there, and sometimes they find themselves in a position of political power, sometimes even by a popular election.

Here's a good one: Porn. Some people want it criminalized. Some people want it to be a jailable offense. Some religions might even go so far as to say that it's a capital offense.
Many other people have absolutely no problem with it.
Nothing to hide? That depends entirely on who's writing and enforcing the laws, sometimes behind closed doors.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

holy fucking hell:

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My apologies. Im really really sorry but I just missed everything you said. I was in the toilet taking a crap so your going to have to repeat it please.
Again my sincere apologies..

 

[alent1234]

Yeah. Hellooooo datamining.
Hm, there's a correlation between people who enjoy "Poker Face," drive green cars, and tend to buy Rubbermaid brand trash cans on Thursdays; and a 50% greater risk of dying before age 40.
Health insurance application declined. Buy Sterlite on Fridays instead. Sponsored by Sterlite. Vote Quimby.




Though, all of this will make the Information Security career field explode. :hmm:
It'll also make the Information Theft career field even more lucrative. :\







Nothing to hide.
Who's deciding what's acceptable and what's not?
Oh, you like the color purple? The new government has decreed that those who enjoy purple things shall be put to death.
You have nothing to hide though, right?

There are extremists out there, and sometimes they find themselves in a position of political power, sometimes even by a popular election.

Here's a good one: Porn. Some people want it criminalized. Some people want it to be a jailable offense. Some religions might even go so far as to say that it's a capital offense.
Many other people have absolutely no problem with it.
Nothing to hide? That depends entirely on who's writing and enforcing the laws, sometimes behind closed doors.

until recently porn has been a crime worthy of jail for a long time. Larry flynt went to jail when he first started his magazine.

the Sedition Act of 1798 and other laws of the time were a lot worse than the patriot act and anything we have now

find something else to be scary about.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

until recently porn has been a crime worthy of jail for a long time. Larry flynt went to jail when he first started his magazine.

the Sedition Act of 1798 and other laws of the time were a lot worse than the patriot act and anything we have now

find something else to be scary about.

Thats why things like Wi fi hotspots were created. Not doing your private stuff on it but your naughty stuff.

To think In 1996 Larry Page and Sergey Brin designed a higly sofisticated algorythm that enables them to steal peoples data as well as linking searches and sell it off to add companies.

 

[Miramonti]

http://scroogle.org/ is good too

even better...

https://ssl.scroogle.org/

 

[CZroe]

Ummm...you misunderstand...The only evidence of me knowing lots of these people are in the excel spread sheet. We do not have those people's email address ANYWHERE and we still do not know it. I only speak to these people on phone or in person and never by email because they are not close family. I only know their address because it's in an excel sheet that I made from a information from my Rolodex.

I do not misunderstand. You can make an electronic contact list in nearly any format without email addresses. If she did this, it *CAN* be synced with Linked-In. Linked-In then looks at everyone else's contact lists and volunteered information and matches it. Neither you nor she needed to have the email addresses. Someone else or many others on their network do. All they needed what a name, phone number or something else to link it to them.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

even better...

https://ssl.scroogle.org/

try this one. the best for me
https://ixquick.com

Then theres the 300 firefox extensions one must get just clean a couple of places garbage out.
But try this lil browser
Winwap

It renders quicker than FF and Opera. Neat little ah heck

 

[Gibson486]

I do not misunderstand. You can make an electronic contact list in nearly any format without email addresses. If she did this, it *CAN* be synced with Linked-In. Linked-In then looks at everyone else's contact lists and volunteered information and matches it. Neither you nor she needed to have the email addresses. Someone else or many others on their network do. All they needed what a name, phone number or something else to link it to them.

The only contact list is the excel sheet. There is no other contact list with these people's info. Anyone that has those people's email address or names in their email account somehow, we do not not know. In fact, most of our family is not even on email. All i am trying to point out is that Gmail has the ability to read attachments...

 

[zinfamous]

My apologies. Im really really sorry but I just missed everything you said. I was in the toilet taking a crap so your going to have to repeat it please.
Again my sincere apologies..

fair enough...i suppose.

It's not about "simple things you say on the internet."

it's about a mass-societal move towards this shared belief that privacy no longer matters. it very, very much matters, and it is the death of civil and individual liberties when an entire generation decides that their private lives should cease to exist.

Again--I have no issue with Facebook as they currently exist--essentially, the vast amounts of data mining that they compile simply "identify" individual computers, and of course IP addresses. They don't link, say, one's love of donkey midget porn and weird Samoan scat Opera with LiuKangBakinPie, specifically. Just your computer. However, the world-wide death of individual privacy is the core philosophy of dingleberries like Fuckerburg, of which he has made no secret, many numbers of times, in public appearances. People like that should be in charge of nothing.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Seven of the top 100 sites appeared to be using what's known as HTML5 local storage to back up standard cookies, and two were found to be respawning cookies. One was Hulu.com, the popular video site that settled a class-action lawsuit over that very issue this year.

Third-party advertisers on the site were still employing the flash cookies, along with another type that takes advantage of the browser's cache, where online data is stored on the computer so it can be delivered faster. This ETag tracking allows advertisers to monitor users, even when they block all cookies and use a private browsing mode.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2000-02-...lick-new-york-s-doubleclick-notice-and-choice

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

fair enough...i suppose.

It's not about "simple things you say on the internet."

it's about a mass-societal move towards this shared belief that privacy no longer matters. it very, very much matters, and it is the death of civil and individual liberties when an entire generation decides that their private lives should cease to exist.

Again--I have no issue with Facebook as they currently exist--essentially, the vast amounts of data mining that they compile simply "identify" individual computers, and of course IP addresses. They don't link, say, one's love of donkey midget porn and weird Samoan scat Opera with LiuKangBakinPie, specifically. Just your computer. However, the world-wide death of individual privacy is the core philosophy of dingleberries like Fuckerburg, of which he has made no secret, many numbers of times, in public appearances. People like that should be in charge of nothing.

Same with Google. They keep IP after IP for months.
But we use privacy features and other things to make us feel a bit better and secure but how many of us has really checked if they work?

Does private browsing do its job. Does No Script function just as good and let the pages render just as quick when you block google-analystics or other google ones? What about the cookie waiting at our ISP gateway when we log on where they sell it for ads?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Yeah. Hellooooo datamining.
Hm, there's a correlation between people who enjoy "Poker Face," drive green cars, and tend to buy Rubbermaid brand trash cans on Thursdays; and a 50% greater risk of dying before age 40.
Health insurance application declined. Buy Sterlite on Fridays instead. Sponsored by Sterlite. Vote Quimby.




Though, all of this will make the Information Security career field explode. :hmm:

It'll also make the Information Theft career field even more lucrative. :\







Nothing to hide.
Who's deciding what's acceptable and what's not?
Oh, you like the color purple? The new government has decreed that those who enjoy purple things shall be put to death.
You have nothing to hide though, right?

There are extremists out there, and sometimes they find themselves in a position of political power, sometimes even by a popular election.

Here's a good one: Porn. Some people want it criminalized. Some people want it to be a jailable offense. Some religions might even go so far as to say that it's a capital offense.
Many other people have absolutely no problem with it.
Nothing to hide? That depends entirely on who's writing and enforcing the laws, sometimes behind closed doors.

Ok maybe that was interpreted wrong. But what I'm saying is, yes it is a bad thing that we have no privacy, but chances are if we have nothing to hide, there is nothing to worry about. Is it annoying? yes, but there's nothing we can do about it except for turning everything off, and even then we get tracked through more primitive stuff like taking money out of the bank, etc.

I'm also in Canada, where things are more lax here and an extremist would most likely never make it to parliament. Ok so we've had some crazies, but nothing like the US gets. Our big issues are things like the gun registry or how far from a door you can smoke and other silly things like that, not whether or not a company should have the power to shut down your website because it does not like what's on it. (SOPA)

Is it annoying that all our moves are tracked? yes, but there's just nothing we can do about it, and we just have to live with it. The positive way of looking at this is at least criminals get caught more easily.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

I dont bother bout it cause I dont bring my private shit onto the internet. Google even scan all ones mails and give the info to the add companies