Google Chrome EULA: All your **** belong to us!

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Lifer
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Article at Gizmodo

11. Content license from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

 

FP

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I want to know how they would ever be able to tell something was posted through their browser unless it is phoning home.

Yes you could look at the HTTP headers if you could gain access to sites web server logs but I am sure someone will come out with a header spoofer for Chrome eventually.
 

IceBergSLiM

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love how you didn't bold the most important part!

You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.

You are just giving them permission to use items as a promotional tool for chrome that is all.
 

Deeko

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Welcome to Google.

I haven't trusted Google for years now. It's a shame they make such good products, but for a company who's motto is "do no evil", they're a pretty damn evil company.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
love how you didn't bold the most important part!

You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.

You are just giving them permission to use items as a promotional tool for chrome that is all.


Hmm....im not detecting any sarcasm here? Are you trying to put lipstick on a pig?


11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.


Lets see your best shot on making that one pretty.....
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
love how you didn't bold the most important part!

You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.

You are just giving them permission to use items as a promotional tool for chrome that is all.


Hmm....im not detecting any sarcasm here? Are you trying to put lipstick on a pig?


11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.


Lets see your best shot on making that one pretty.....

i dont understand what that means actually.
 

dwell

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
i dont understand what that means actually.

It means you retain the copyright to anything you post through Chrome *but* Google has the right to read it, re-publish it, or make money off it by sharing it with their business partners.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Chris
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
i dont understand what that means actually.

It means you retain the copyright to anything you post through Chrome *but* Google has the right to read it, re-publish it, or make money off it by sharing it with their business partners.

This part I specifically don't understand

for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

what the hell are syndicated services? Is that even a term that would hold any weight in court?
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Article at Gizmodo

11. Content license from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

Yeah there was all kinds of controversy when some other company had similar language (I think it was Flikr?). It's just a legal CYA clause, not some nefarious scheme to steal your content and eat your babies.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Article at Gizmodo

11. Content license from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

Yeah there was all kinds of controversy when some other company had similar language (I think it was Flikr?). It's just a legal CYA clause, not some nefarious scheme to steal your content and eat your babies.


Riiight. They need to use my "content" royalty free to cover thier ass. They need to sell said "content" to other companies to cover thier ass. Why is it even reporting my content back to google? I want my content as private as possible thank you very much.

But hey, to each his own.
 

IceBergSLiM

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This doesn't violate anything. And if you're still scared of it, use Chromium, the active open source project without the EULA that Chrome is based on.
 

Quiksilver

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The EULA for chrome is the same for every google service... so quick stop using gmail, google search, blogger, you tube, picasso, and every other free google service because you bothered to pay attention to the a EULA for once in your life.

:roll:
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Article at Gizmodo

11. Content license from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

Yeah there was all kinds of controversy when some other company had similar language (I think it was Flikr?). It's just a legal CYA clause, not some nefarious scheme to steal your content and eat your babies.


Riiight. They need to use my "content" royalty free to cover thier ass. They need to sell said "content" to other companies to cover thier ass. Why is it even reporting my content back to google? I want my content as private as possible thank you very much.

But hey, to each his own.

It's legal boilerplate language, and it really IS just included in EULAs so you can't sue them for doing something that is necessary for their product to function.

It's in the terms of service that apply to all of their websites:
http://google.com/accounts/TOS?hl=US
Now, I'd hope you can see why they'd need that in there for something like Picasa or Gmail or Google Docs. If you uploaded a picture and hadn't agreed to those terms, you could sue them for violating your copyright by displaying the picture that you implicitly asked them to display.

Now, I can't think of any reason off the top of my head why they'd need that language in Chrome, but I'm sure there could be a very legitimate, non-nefarious reason. Or they could have just left it in there because it's part of their generic TOS that they use for ALL of their products. Most of their products are services, so that clause is necessary. [edit: see below]

Here's another example of nearly identical language:
http://toomanynerds.com/2008/0...press-beware-eula.html
Adobe changed their language because of publicity, but you can be sure that they had no intentions of stealing your pictures - it was just a CYA clause so you couldn't sue them for providing the service that they offered you.

I'm sure you'll find the same clause with almost identical language at MANY other websites. If you don't, those websites probably didn't have a lawyer involved in writing their TOS.


Edit: I did think of a reason why that clause would be necessary with Chrome. It does Google searches, and Google logs those searches and uses them to generate statistics. Better go unistall Google Toolbar too, since it likely has the same clause in its EULA. And while you're at it, you need to stop doing web searches at Google.com.
 

IceBergSLiM

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If the same people that questioned EULA questioned the actions of the government we'd really be on to something. :roll:
 

Throckmorton

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"This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services. "

Isn't that pretty clear that they can't steal your intellectual property?