Good Temps for slight overclock?

HighDef

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Hi was just posting to see if anyone could offer some insight. Just applied a mild overclock to 2.7 on my E6600 for the 1st time. Also, should I be more concerned with the temp that is listed in speedfan for the cores 0,1 or is the CPU temp more important seems to be a big temp difference there? I am hoping that these temps are real low as I would like to do some more Overclocking :)

EDIT These are idle temps btw, hav'nt fired up orthos yet

Ambient Temp 84F

Asus Probe

CPU - 40C Vcore 1.31v
MB - 35C


Speedfan 4.32

CPU - 40C
Mobo - 35C
?Temp3? 24C
HD1 - 37C
?Temp1? - 40C (does not change w/ CPU)
Core 0 - 50C
Core 1 - 47C

I was also wondering if anyone could help me figure out some of those times in speedfan.

Thanks

System Specs---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Antec Nine Hundred Case (side fan attached and modded for wire/airflow managnment)
Asus P5N-E SLI Nvidia 650i chipset - Zalman south bridge cooler
E6600 Core 2 Duo - Scythe Ninja Plus rev. B - OC'd to 2.7 GHZ
2X512 and 2X1GB Corsair XMS2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)@ 2.2 volts
PNY 7900GS PCIE X16
300GB SATA Seagate 7200RPM
Samsung Lighscribe 18x DVD Burner
Soundbalster X-Fi XtremeGamer
Antec True Power Trio 650w
 

MarcVenice

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50/47 under load ? That's pretty okay, you can push temps up to 60 without a problem, wouldn't go any higher then 60c though. I'm guessing 3-3.2ghz should be doable at stock vcore.
 

jonks

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If you're running 47/050 at idle, that's a bit warm, I run about 10-12 degrees cooler. You can check anands cpu cooler reviews for a good idea of what range you should be running under idle/load.
 

MarcVenice

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Yeah if those temps are idle then overclocking isn't gonna fly. If you fire up orthos right now you will be hitting 60c under load. With a scythe ninja you should be seeing lower temps though, I bet it isn't seated correctly, or the thermal grease isn't applied correctly. Either to much or not enough has been applied.

Or ambient temps are like 30c which could explain higher idle temps.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Read this with some attention before you go forward:


Tom's Hardware C2D Temperature Guide

Don't use ASUS Probe or SpeedFan with the 650i chipset to monitor your temperatures.

For the TCase temperature mentioned in the Temperature Guide, use nVidia Monitor.

For the TJunction temperatures for individual cores, use CoreTemp. You should be able to find CoreTemp from one of the stickies here or on the Cases & Cooling forum.

Now -- I'm just spinning thoughts off the top of my head. The Ninja is a darned decent cooler. Check the mounting first. Start with the fan running closer to 2,500 -- forget about your noise-irritation threshold for the moment.

The Antec case -- I've seen this before -- I'm only guessing it's a midtower. You might want to re-examine the fan options and the airflow, because I know it can be improved. It's possible to get the E6600 (and at that over-clock) to show an idle several degrees below the mobo temperature, and the mobo temperature in the low 30's of Celsius. With some cases, it requires more work and modding. Try taking the side-panel off and just blow a room-fan on the opening at high speed to see what affect this has on the idle temperatures and stock load values.



 

HighDef

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Well knowing that those temps were too high for me I want back to my default config. My temps here are.

I use speedfan and it gives the same temp as coretmp for the cores

Ambient Temp. 81F

CPU - 36C
Mobo - 33C
Temp3 - 24C
HD1 - 34C
Temp1 - 40C
Core 0 - 44C
Core 1 - 42c

Core temp
Tjunction - 85C
Core 0 -44C
Core1 - 42C

I have probably gone through the procedure of applying AS5 many different ways now I originally had the Thermaltake V1 and was having issues. Someone recommedned the Ninja so I went and got it and have seen virtually no difference. I am pretty sure that with the V1 my thermal paste procedure was not corrrect. But I have gone through it with the Ninja about 6 times now and trying different thickness, or shape. The heat spreader does not need lapped nor does the heatsink they are both really flat. The method used to apply (this time, best temps so far) was a thin haze of as5 over heatsink. Then a line just as Artic silvers websites photos show, right down the middle in orientation with the cores. When I seat the head sink i look underneath and it looks proper. Underneath there is a little point sticking through with a black rod in the middle of it. On the other side I see that there is still white plastic showing although the point is all the way through. Is this proper? I was under the assumption it was I have been taking the whole MB out and installing HS/Paste so as to seat it properly. Also I have modded my case pretty good and think that there is good airflow. One of the bottom fans in the 900 was moved up top and there is a direct flow of air from a fan (all fans on high) over the processor and then a new fan Tsunami as the exaust out the back. The cpu fan and the rear tsunami are on exhaust while the front fan 2 fans are intake. There is also a 200mm on the top, exhaust, and the sidewindow fan is on intake. I have the camera charging and plan to post some pics sometime tonight before I go to work hopefully will have time to show airflow in there.

Thanks again, also still wondering what is more important the core temps or the Cpu temp, I am assuming the core temps, just seems weird there is such a big difference 6-7C

EDIT Just went and got everest home 2.20 and once i ran it it changed all my temps somehow????? now i am gettingthe same core temps on speedfan but CPU 18C Mobo 17C Temp3 12C all the rest are the same??? any ideas? Also made my Vcore reading jump all the way to 2.14v for no reason and it is manually set in bios at 1.23. Restarting now
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: MarcVenice
Yeah if those temps are idle then overclocking isn't gonna fly. If you fire up orthos right now you will be hitting 60c under load. With a scythe ninja you should be seeing lower temps though, I bet it isn't seated correctly, or the thermal grease isn't applied correctly. Either to much or not enough has been applied.

Or ambient temps are like 30c which could explain higher idle temps.

not necessarily. Not every CPU gets low temps.
 

MarcVenice

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no time to respond properly,

@cmdredd, you do realize he would be looking at 60 idle-ish with the stock HSF? Maybe his cpu is a dud, but that's 1 hell of a dud, it would be throttling all the time with the stock HSF :p
 

SerpentRoyal

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For a mild overclock, make sure CPU cooler is properly seated. Raise Vcore to 1.35 and find your maximum stable FSB speed under Orthos Large mode. Also run Memtest86 to check RAM.
 

betasub

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To put those ambient temps on the same scale as the hardware temps:

84F = 28.9C
81F = 27.2C
 

Capitalizt

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Your ambient temps are too high man!

Turn your air conditioner on 76F and leave it alone. That alone will make a big difference.