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Good online wine retailer?
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CaffeineAndStuff
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K&L in San Francisco ( http://klwines.com )
Premier Cru in Emeryville ( http://premiercru.net ) - although if it is pre-arrival it could take a long time to get to you
Garagiste in Seattle (this is more of an Email list though) ( http://www.garagistewine.com/ )
Lots of others I have had good experience with too (Garys , winex, The wine house SF )
Bear in mind it is a little late in the season (hot) to be shipping ground so unless it is close to you you'll need to pay for 2nd day to ship to you.
Also - if you don't know about it your best friend for comparison shopping for wine is wine-searcher ( http://www.wine-searcher.com )
Premier Cru in Emeryville ( http://premiercru.net ) - although if it is pre-arrival it could take a long time to get to you
Garagiste in Seattle (this is more of an Email list though) ( http://www.garagistewine.com/ )
Lots of others I have had good experience with too (Garys , winex, The wine house SF )
Bear in mind it is a little late in the season (hot) to be shipping ground so unless it is close to you you'll need to pay for 2nd day to ship to you.
Also - if you don't know about it your best friend for comparison shopping for wine is wine-searcher ( http://www.wine-searcher.com )
CaffeineAndStuff
Member
Ugh - forget what I just said. I see you're in Massachusets hence most of these places won't ship to you as it is illegal to ship by common carrier to MA.
Your best bet is probably to find an in-state retailer who will deliver (wine-searcher could help with this) or - I think - wine.com manages it somehow
Your best bet is probably to find an in-state retailer who will deliver (wine-searcher could help with this) or - I think - wine.com manages it somehow
Not a single retail reseller, but here are some excellent sources to shop (for the G O O D handcrafted stuff - some of the best wines in the world).
(Your profile locates you in MA, which some of these might not ship to, but maybe MA is merely your home base and you are actually in some different state?
There seems to be some issue about shipping wine to MA that I don't know about.)
Sanford Winery
Babcock Winery
Zaca Mesa Winery
Sunstone Vineyards and Winery
Brander Vineyard
Gainey Vineyards
Bridlewood Estate Winery
Firestone Vineyard
Fess Parker Winery and Vineyards
Byron Vineyard & Winery
Santa Barbara Winery
Kalyra Winery
Longoria Wines
McKeon-Phillips Winery
If you want more just let me know
(Your profile locates you in MA, which some of these might not ship to, but maybe MA is merely your home base and you are actually in some different state?
There seems to be some issue about shipping wine to MA that I don't know about.)
Sanford Winery
Babcock Winery
Zaca Mesa Winery
Sunstone Vineyards and Winery
Brander Vineyard
Gainey Vineyards
Bridlewood Estate Winery
Firestone Vineyard
Fess Parker Winery and Vineyards
Byron Vineyard & Winery
Santa Barbara Winery
Kalyra Winery
Longoria Wines
McKeon-Phillips Winery
If you want more just let me know
Wow, a lot of nice wineries there. Must be hella nice to live in coastal CA 🙁
A few of those sites mentioned that MA (along with a few others) are subject to a current Supreme Court ruling. And some won't ship to MA at all. Do you know what this particular ruling is?
It's not really worth buying a single bottle at a time, is it (unless it's some $80+ bottle)? Or do retailers get single orders of $20-40 bottles often?
Thanks again.
I usually just buy local, but if I buy online I do so from the sites that CaffeineAndStuff mentioned for the most part. I pick up some rarer bottles from WineBid as well. I have an '03 Clos des Papes, '95 Romanee-Conti, and an '85 Heitz Cabernet on the way from WineBid.
Find a local retailer that's knowledgable and picks their wines by taste rather than price in a catalog. You'll find enough to keep you busy for years.
Find a local retailer that's knowledgable and picks their wines by taste rather than price in a catalog. You'll find enough to keep you busy for years.
No I don't know the issue.
I just now briefly glanced on the web, and it seems to be this:
The US Supreme Court ruled that wineries can ship direct to consumers interstate,
but some states made their own in-state prohibitions against it, to protect local jobs and make sure they get tax on alcohol.
Text
EDIT: But I just found this contradictory info:
QUOTE
SAN FRANCISCO ? The U.S. Supreme Court ruled today that discriminatory bans on interstate, direct-to-consumer wine shipments in New York and Michigan are unconstitutional, paving the way for the third and tenth largest wine consuming states to join 27 other states that allow for direct shipping of wine to consumers.END QUOTE
Source
So there must be some recent legal wrangling going on in MA if a prohibition still exists on shipment to consumers there, because that'd be contrary to the US Supremes' ruling.
Possibility: I wonder if the web sites that say they can't ship to MA are merely out of date? Maybe that was true but not anymore?
I don't personally know.
I don't know, but I guess they'll sell you whatever they put up for sale on their web site. If they offer a single bottle at a time then I guess the'll sell it that way.
I usually go in with friends on a case at a time & we split it. But that's when we physically go to the wineries and buy it there, on the spot. I've never bought wine over the internet.
I just now briefly glanced on the web, and it seems to be this:
The US Supreme Court ruled that wineries can ship direct to consumers interstate,
but some states made their own in-state prohibitions against it, to protect local jobs and make sure they get tax on alcohol.
Text
EDIT: But I just found this contradictory info:
QUOTE
SAN FRANCISCO ? The U.S. Supreme Court ruled today that discriminatory bans on interstate, direct-to-consumer wine shipments in New York and Michigan are unconstitutional, paving the way for the third and tenth largest wine consuming states to join 27 other states that allow for direct shipping of wine to consumers.END QUOTE
Source
So there must be some recent legal wrangling going on in MA if a prohibition still exists on shipment to consumers there, because that'd be contrary to the US Supremes' ruling.
Possibility: I wonder if the web sites that say they can't ship to MA are merely out of date? Maybe that was true but not anymore?
I don't personally know.
I don't know, but I guess they'll sell you whatever they put up for sale on their web site. If they offer a single bottle at a time then I guess the'll sell it that way.
I usually go in with friends on a case at a time & we split it. But that's when we physically go to the wineries and buy it there, on the spot. I've never bought wine over the internet.
CaffeineAndStuff
Member
Damn Descartes - some nice stuff there....
Had my first taste of DRC (only 30 yo Grand Echereaux from not so great year though) on Monday night at an old wine tasting I went to. Was very tired .... Had some stunning bottles of 70's Heitz though (74 Marthas was particularly good, and the 78 Bella Oaks wasn't too shabby either)
... I take it the DRC you got wasn't the Romanee Conti itself - otherwise wow - you have waaayyy too much money!!
Had my first taste of DRC (only 30 yo Grand Echereaux from not so great year though) on Monday night at an old wine tasting I went to. Was very tired .... Had some stunning bottles of 70's Heitz though (74 Marthas was particularly good, and the 78 Bella Oaks wasn't too shabby either)
... I take it the DRC you got wasn't the Romanee Conti itself - otherwise wow - you have waaayyy too much money!!
CaffeineAndStuff
Member
http://www.freethegrapes.org/ has details on wine shipping laws
Hammerhead
Platinum Member
Windsor Vineyards
you can personalize your labels too
you can personalize your labels too
It's a genuine DRC, but I usually call it Romanee-Conti in forums not dedicated to wine as it's more familiar. I also have a '95 Louis Latour Romanee-St Vivant on the way, and I'm fairly excited to see how it will turn out. I finished an '03 Louis Latour Volnay 1er last weekend, and overall I've been fairly satisfied with their work in Burgundy.
A 30 yo DRC Grands Echezeaux? Nice. Sounds like it might have been a little past its time for an off year though? I like to buy lower-rated years as I can usually drink them younger and get them cheaper; it's not always a bargain though, especially since you're still looking at a few hundred dollars a bottle in a lot of cases.
I'm really looking forward to my Clos des Papes. I'll likely drink one immediately and then see if I can find a case to cellar for a decade or so 🙂
[edit]I've taken a new interest in Heitz lately. Their '01 Cabernet is already drinking wel but I only have a bottle left.[/edit]
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Email the sales dept of the major liquor distributor in your area that does the bulk of fine wine sales for the local restaurants. They may set up an account for you if you spend enough each year to make it worthwhile and they will bill it as a no delivery dock sale. You fax them what you?re looking for and they fax back the price and availability date.
CaffeineAndStuff
Member
You're thinking of Clos Pepe which is a vineyard in the Santa Rita Hills (and also a winery there too)
Clos des Papes is a winery in Chateauneuf-du-Pape in the Southern Rhone.
Interesting. Clos Pepe is one I've never tried, although in my local area. I'll have to give it a go!
There are a lot of little wineries around here that have miniscule volume production, with no marketing "Oomph" behind them so nobody knows their names. But some make great wine!
CaffeineAndStuff
Member
... oops managed to double post
Glavinsolo
Platinum Member
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