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Good news for all you wine lovers

NumbaJuan

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Mondavi Challenged by "Two Buck Chuck"
Thursday March 27, 2:45 pm ET
By Matt Richey

Somebody pass a bottle to Robert Mondavi (Nasdaq: MOND - News). Last night, the California winery chopped earnings expectations by nearly 25%, plus restructuring charges on top of that. An oversupply of grapes combined with weak demand for expensive wines is spelling disaster for the premium wine maker.





This is the second time in three months Mondavi has scaled back its expectations for the current fiscal year (ending in June). Originally, the company called for EPS of $2.55 to $2.60. Then, in January, management trimmed that number to $2.30 to $2.35. Now, the ax has really come down, and EPS before charges is expected at $1.76 to $1.81. After charges for excess inventory and employee severance costs, the final number could be as low as $0.91.

Even in normal years, the wine business is inherently difficult, subject to the vagaries of each year's grape harvest and huge inventory requirements as the wine ages. But this past year has been especially tough on upscale wine makers like Mondavi because of the weak economy, which has depressed the wine-important travel and entertainment sector.

And while demand has been weak, grape supply has been strong, resulting in a proliferation of lower-price wines. One new brand, in particular, has taken the market by storm: Charles Shaw, more popularly known as "Two Buck Chuck," which offers cabernet, chardonnay, and sauvignon blanc, each for just $1.99 a bottle. It may be cheap, but this is no Boone's Farm. Charles Shaw is delivering a quality wine that's getting rave reviews and stealing share from higher-price competitors.

On this morning's Mondavi conference call, Charles Shaw was the first topic of discussion in the Q&A. The caller asked about the size of Charles Shaw's competitive threat, to which management had the following to say (courtesy of Fair Disclosure Financial Network):

[Charles Shaw is] rumored to be somewhere in the neighborhood of a 1.5 million to 2 million case brand. And in the context of the California premium wine market in the U.S., which is somewhere in the volume of 95 [million] to 100 million cases, you are talking about a brand that has come in and taken about 2% of the share in a very quick period of time. And probably a good portion of the growth, because if the market is growing at 4% to 5%, let's say that's 4 [million] or 5 million cases, and this new brand has taken 20% to 40% of that growth.

Charles Shaw has done the unthinkable -- taken wine's high-price snob appeal and turned it on its head, creating a certain hipness to cheap wine. Whether this proves a fad or a long-term phenomenon will be critical to the future of Robert Mondavi's business

 
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
You would think that "all these people" boycotting French stuff could pull Mondavi back up 😉

I didn't know anyone even bought French wine to begin with. I much prefered the Cali stuff.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
You would think that "all these people" boycotting French stuff could pull Mondavi back up 😉

I didn't know anyone even bought French wine to begin with. I much prefered the Cali stuff.
Some of the best bargains on domestic wine these days are from Oregon. Lots of good pinot noir, pinot gris, pinot blanc and chardonnays for generally $10-15.

 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
You would think that "all these people" boycotting French stuff could pull Mondavi back up 😉

I didn't know anyone even bought French wine to begin with. I much prefered the Cali stuff.

The real purists will usually only drink French stuff. Personally, I think Calif. wine is as good or better than french wine. But that could just be because I'm too ignorant to tell the difference.
 
I passed this on to my personal sommolier. Hopefully she replies soon and tells me if this really is a good thing or not 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
You would think that "all these people" boycotting French stuff could pull Mondavi back up 😉

I didn't know anyone even bought French wine to begin with. I much prefered the Cali stuff.

Don?t know if you have tried any Charles Shaw, but I gotta tell ya, don?t let this bargain low price fool ya. It?s a good quality wine and also a steal for $1.99 a bottle 😉
 
Originally posted by: NumbaJuan
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
You would think that "all these people" boycotting French stuff could pull Mondavi back up 😉

I didn't know anyone even bought French wine to begin with. I much prefered the Cali stuff.

Don?t know if you have tried any Charles Shaw, but I gotta tell ya, don?t let this bargain low price fool ya. It?s a good quality wine and also a steal for $1.99 a bottle 😉

I will have to try to find some.
 
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: NumbaJuan
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
You would think that "all these people" boycotting French stuff could pull Mondavi back up 😉

I didn't know anyone even bought French wine to begin with. I much prefered the Cali stuff.

Don?t know if you have tried any Charles Shaw, but I gotta tell ya, don?t let this bargain low price fool ya. It?s a good quality wine and also a steal for $1.99 a bottle 😉

I will have to try to find some.

i live in calif. and they have bunch of the stuff at a place named Trader Joes
 
I'm doing my part.

Oh wait, no I'm not. I buy Berringer wines, mostly, and Fetzer Winery on occasion.

Sucks to be you Mondavi!
 
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
You would think that "all these people" boycotting French stuff could pull Mondavi back up 😉

I didn't know anyone even bought French wine to begin with. I much prefered the Cali stuff.

The real purists will usually only drink French stuff. Personally, I think Calif. wine is as good or better than french wine. But that could just be because I'm too ignorant to tell the difference.

I could be wrong, but I remember someone telling me about something wiping out the vinyards in France a while back. They also told me that California stock was used to repopulate the French vinyards. Can anybody back me up on this?
 
The only decent wine is from California. The French have always had over-priced mediocre wines and champagne which is great if you like headaches.

Give me a nice California Zinfandel any day... preferably from some place like Ravenswood!

Listen to an old man who knows whats good. Was I wrong about Jennifer Garner? 😀
 
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
You would think that "all these people" boycotting French stuff could pull Mondavi back up 😉

I didn't know anyone even bought French wine to begin with. I much prefered the Cali stuff.

The real purists will usually only drink French stuff. Personally, I think Calif. wine is as good or better than french wine. But that could just be because I'm too ignorant to tell the difference.

I could be wrong, but I remember someone telling me about something wiping out the vinyards in France a while back. They also told me that California stock was used to repopulate the French vinyards. Can anybody back me up on this?
You're thinking of phylloxera. It's a louse that kills grape vines by laying eggs and boring holes in the roots of the vines. Native american vine roots were found to be immune to the louse so they used the rootstock to repopulate the vineyards that had been decimated by the bugs. The kicker is that phylloxera was imported to Europe.....from the US. 😉

 
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
The only decent wine is from California. The French have always had over-priced mediocre wines and champagne which is great if you like headaches.

Give me a nice California Zinfandel any day... preferably from some place like Ravenswood!

Listen to an old man who knows whats good. Was I wrong about Jennifer Garner? 😀
The thing with French wines is that it's much harder to find the bargains than it is with CA or other wines. Sometimes you spend $20 and get crap, other times magic. You really, really have to know your stuff to shop for them or you might as well just throw a dart. California makes a lot of good wines and some extremely good wines. France makes everything from cheapo table wines to stuff that is a step under nectar of the gods. There are just so damn many regions and vineyards that finding the good stuff can be a life's work. This contributes to the notion that it's all overpriced and not worth it because most people don't know any better, shop by price alone and end up getting burned.

 
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
The only decent wine is from California. The French have always had over-priced mediocre wines and champagne which is great if you like headaches.

Give me a nice California Zinfandel any day... preferably from some place like Ravenswood!

Listen to an old man who knows whats good. Was I wrong about Jennifer Garner? 😀
The thing with French wines is that it's much harder to find the bargains than it is with CA or other wines. Sometimes you spend $20 and get crap, other times magic. You really, really have to know your stuff to shop for them or you might as well just throw a dart. California makes a lot of good wines and some extremely good wines. France makes everything from cheapo table wines to stuff that is a step under nectar of the gods. There are just so damn many regions and vineyards that finding the good stuff can be a life's work. This contributes to the notion that it's all overpriced and not worth it because most people don't know any better, shop by price alone and end up getting burned.

Wine is very similar to beauty. They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have come to find that wine is in the taste of the beholder. If you want to do something fun, have a blind wine tasting with any particular wine. People will bring wine ranging from $5.00 - $35.00 per bottle. Everyone that I have been at no one seems to choose the most expensive bottle as the best tasting. It is a fun and interesting thing to do.
 
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
The only decent wine is from California. The French have always had over-priced mediocre wines and champagne which is great if you like headaches.

Give me a nice California Zinfandel any day... preferably from some place like Ravenswood!

Listen to an old man who knows whats good. Was I wrong about Jennifer Garner? 😀
The thing with French wines is that it's much harder to find the bargains than it is with CA or other wines. Sometimes you spend $20 and get crap, other times magic. You really, really have to know your stuff to shop for them or you might as well just throw a dart. California makes a lot of good wines and some extremely good wines. France makes everything from cheapo table wines to stuff that is a step under nectar of the gods. There are just so damn many regions and vineyards that finding the good stuff can be a life's work. This contributes to the notion that it's all overpriced and not worth it because most people don't know any better, shop by price alone and end up getting burned.

You're partially right. French wine does run the gamut of quality, but you have to keep in mind that the French wine available in the States is only a portion of what they actually produce. My favorite wine appellation, Auxey-Durresses, is from a small village near the heart of the Bourgogne wine region and its capital, Beaune. Only a couple of the vintners there actually export their wine to the U.S., which is a shame since it's fantastic (I have six bottles aging in the States right now with my parents).

California, on the other hand, is part of the States (duh!) so there's no importing/exporting to worry about, though I imagine that what's available in California is a bit different than what's available outside the state.

For me, I know French wine much better than I do California wine. Plus, while some people consider the region thing in France to be confusing, I think it makes much more sense because a little bit of knowledge goes a long way to knowing the character of a certain wine if you know a bit about its region or even about the regions surrounding it. CA has no such system, and I find myself passing over CA wines because I have no earthly idea what it's going to be like unless they happen to list the grapes on the bottle.
 
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