Good news: Chilean Mine workers to be pulled out on Wednesday

[Capt Caveman]

Am I the only one who sees how weird this is? Chile to its credit has bended heaven and Earth to rescue 33 miners, spending millions of dollars to rescue them, and when they are hopefully finally hauled to the surface, none of them will ever have to work another day in their lives.

Yet at the same time, worldwide, miners are one of the most exploited and have to suffer the most dangerous working conditions on earth. And in turn are rewarded by
low wages and become reviled when they ask for rudimentary safety standards from their employers. Because the coal and other minerals they mine cost extra money to the larger society if they are granted safety standards.

Now let us suppose, as a larger norm, that the same tunnel collapse these Chilean miners had experienced had crushed them to death instead , would we give a shit? And after we haul all 33 up to the surface to be reborn in the same freedom we on the surface have, will things be a damn wit better for all the other miners on earth?

One small step for humanity for 33, same old shit for millions of others. Tell me again about learning anything yet?

And the things learned from this accident and rescue (ie. Safe Areas work) and technology developed/used will assist future miners around the world.

You tell the families of the miners and citizens of the Chile that you're not going to try and save them.

Why not write a letter to your congressmen and complain that the US sent people and spent money on helping Chile and these miners?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Can't wait to see what happens with that miner when the wife and mistress both show up.

That miner requested both of them to be present when he came up but his wife told him that she loves herself too much to humiliate herself in front of the world.

 

[theeedude]

That miner requested both of them to be present when he came up but his wife told him that she loves herself too much to humiliate herself in front of the world.

He's going to get shafted.

 

[Lemon law]

Captain Caveman you have a lot of damn Gaul to say, "
Why not write a letter to your congressmen and complain that the US sent people and spent money on helping Chile and these miners? "

Why don't you and I send letters to our congressmen and say, we need better safety standards for US miners, because truth be told, mine owners find it cheaper to pay toothless fines as they kill and injure our own US mine workers.

Maybe when we start sending some our USA mine owners to jail for cold blooded murder instead of ineffectually slapping them on the wrist, the US can lead the world in mine safety.

Meanwhile, what the hell does the possibility that one of the miners had a mistress on the side have anything to do with the price of eggs in Afghanistan or mine safety?

I may endorse suffering fools like Capt Caveman gladly, but why suffer fools who blindly see nothing?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Captain Caveman you have a lot of damn Gaul to say, "
Why not write a letter to your congressmen and complain that the US sent people and spent money on helping Chile and these miners? "

Why don't you and I send letters to our congressmen and say, we need better safety standards for US miners, because truth be told, mine owners find it cheaper to pay toothless fines as they kill and injure our own US mine workers.

Maybe when we start sending some our USA mine owners to jail for cold blooded murder instead of ineffectually slapping them on the wrist, the US can lead the world in mine safety.

Meanwhile, what the hell does the possibility that one of the miners had a mistress on the side have anything to do with the price of eggs in Afghanistan or mine safety?

I may endorse suffering fools like Capt Caveman gladly, but why suffer fools who blindly see nothing?

:biggrin: Please reread your own post that I originally replied to for sheer ignorance. The only fool is yourself. Get a clue before making such stupid comments.

 

[Ancalagon44]

Am I the only one who sees how weird this is? Chile to its credit has bended heaven and Earth to rescue 33 miners, spending millions of dollars to rescue them, and when they are hopefully finally hauled to the surface, none of them will ever have to work another day in their lives.

Yet at the same time, worldwide, miners are one of the most exploited and have to suffer the most dangerous working conditions on earth. And in turn are rewarded by
low wages and become reviled when they ask for rudimentary safety standards from their employers. Because the coal and other minerals they mine cost extra money to the larger society if they are granted safety standards.

Now let us suppose, as a larger norm, that the same tunnel collapse these Chilean miners had experienced had crushed them to death instead , would we give a shit? And after we haul all 33 up to the surface to be reborn in the same freedom we on the surface have, will things be a damn wit better for all the other miners on earth?

One small step for humanity for 33, same old shit for millions of others. Tell me again about learning anything yet?

Well the president has already fired 2 members of the mining regulatory body, and the mining company is in deep shit. $2 million of their assets have been seized and lawsuits are piling up. Something like 30 mines have already been closed.

 

[werepossum]

We watched number one live last night, and I watched a couple more this morning. Riveting stuff.

 

[GroundedSailor]

We watched number one live last night, and I watched a couple more this morning. Riveting stuff.

No 2 was even better. He came up full of energy and life. Fascinating to see the rescue go so well. Very happy for all of them and their families & kudos to the rescue team for a job very well done. Here's hoping all continues to go smoothly..


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[sportage]

Funny how this is so covered by the news media here but few posting about this. Another case of media overplay? Glad the miners are getting rescued but face it, the news media doesn’t give a crap-ola about what’s happening here, like unemployment and foreclosures and ongoing war(s). So why would the media care about miners over in some other country. And what an insult... They can rescue everyone and do it right over there. Here we seen dead bodies floating in waters after Katrina and destroyed wetlands from oil spills. It's kind of obvious we are more of a 3rd world country than a 3rd world country.
And u think it’s bad now… just wait another 3 weeks…
Sad...

 

[Throckmorton]

Apparently the president thanked everybody but America. You're welcome.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Lets just rejoice and be happy for the miners that the rescue went off flawlessly. Any successful rescue is a good rescue.

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[Chaotic42]

Yay! Nice to read some really good news. :thumbsup:

 

[Zedtom]

This news anchor last night was commenting about the rig and stating that it looked like some relic from the old west in the nineteenth century. I thought to myself that we are really jaded by movies and tv shows. We expect to see modern high tech robotics and we get a simple hoist.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Funny how this is so covered by the news media here but few posting about this. Another case of media overplay? Glad the miners are getting rescued but face it, the news media doesn’t give a crap-ola about what’s happening here, like unemployment and foreclosures and ongoing war(s). So why would the media care about miners over in some other country. And what an insult... They can rescue everyone and do it right over there. Here we seen dead bodies floating in waters after Katrina and destroyed wetlands from oil spills. It's kind of obvious we are more of a 3rd world country than a 3rd world country.
And u think it’s bad now… just wait another 3 weeks…
Sad...

Well, it's the top story around the world. It's even being shown live in China and Iran. Here it might not be talked a lot but over in ATOT, other forums and people I've talked to in the last couple of days, everyone is talking about it. I think people here to like to complain about things and there's not much to complain about here.

A pretty fascinating story and miraculous rescue. The incident/rescue will be a case study in regards to technology, medicine, psychology and world wide rescue cooperation.

In regards to Katrina, Chile is experienced in natural disasters(ie. recent Earthquake). I would like to believe a lot of lessons were learned from Katrina and won't be repeated if a similar incident were to occur.

Some interests facts, the Chile government immediately took over the rescue operation instead of the mining company(possible lesson learned that could have been applied for the Gulf Oil Spill). They also asked and accepted assistance from any country willing to help. The rescue pod was designed by NASA, built by Chile with parts from Germany, South Africa, China and several other countries.

If one of the miners were to feint while being transported up, it could mean death b/c they would be trapped standing up as the blood flowed out of their brain(people that feint usually collapse allowing blood to flow back into the brain), so the miners were giving salt tablets days before the rescue to raise their blood pressure and made to wear compression suits for the travel up.

The first 17 days before they were found, the miners were living off 1/2 cup of milk and 2 teaspoons of tuna fish every 48 hours. They got to the point where they were deciding if they would eat the first person to die.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Finally all out - and they forgot to switch the lights off!!

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[BeauJangles]

Did you guys see these pictures?

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/10/rescued_from_a_chilean_mine.html


Capt Caveman - Do you know how they were found? I just picked up the story as the national media did. I guess I never researched how anybody actually figured out they were alive.

 

[Brainonska511]

Capt Caveman - Do you know how they were found? I just picked up the story as the national media did. I guess I never researched how anybody actually figured out they were alive.

AFAIK, they had drilled a small bore hole down to the shaft. The bit came back up with red paint on it along with a note or two attached stating that they were in fact alive.

 

[HomerJS]

On a lighter note here's the miner with a wife and mistress. Oooofa! Not what I expected.

 

[werepossum]

On a lighter note here's the miner with a wife and mistress. Oooofa! Not what I expected.

Woof! Think I'd stay in the hole. Those are not women I'd want to hold any strong feelings about me either way, good or bad - much less both!

Great pics, BeauJangles, thanks! I noticed too the product placement, free Oakley sunglasses for each miner and the branded sports bags. Very smart marketing folks, do something good and get lots of good publicity.

Kudos to Chile and its government and the mining company. They were smart enough to seek out the best advice, then design and perfectly execute a great plan in an amazingly short time period.