Good interview with Presidential Candidate Gary Johnson

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http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Libertarian-Johnson-no-government/2012/07/06/id/444657

Pretty good interview here with the Libertarian Candidate. I've donated a bit to his campaign and I'm pretty sure he's who I'll be voting for this year.

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Johnson earned the nickname “Governor Veto” during his two terms in New Mexico, largely for cutting spending programs. Asked if cutting spending at the federal level would be more difficult, he responded: “I wouldn’t think so.

“What we want as citizens of this country is to elect leaders that actually are going to go in and fix the problems. I really think that unless we balance the federal budget, we’re going to find ourselves in a monetary collapse. What’s a monetary collapse? Well, it’s when the dollars that you have in your pocket don’t buy anything. And I am talking about the history of other countries that embark on spending like we’re doing.”

Johnson dismissed concerns that sharply cutting defense spending will impair economic growth, saying that was one of the big concerns after World War II, but exactly the opposite happened.

“I am promising to advocate on the part of the Fair Tax, throwing out the entire federal tax system," he added. "No more income tax, no more corporate tax, no more IRS — abolish the IRS, abolish the tax withholdings from your payroll check and replace it with one federal tax, a consumption tax.

“No more IRS, no more having to spend any time with withholdings or loopholes.

“It’s a phase-in over a couple of years, but it’s really an exciting notion that we would issue pink slips to half of Washington lobbyists, because half of Washington lobbyists are there to buy loopholes. Loopholes are for sale. Both parties sell them. All that goes away.”

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Pretty good interview here with the Libertarian Candidate. I've donated a bit to his campaign and I'm pretty sure he's who I'll be voting for this year.
What about writing in "Ron Paul" (without the quotation marks)?

Gary Johnson is better than Rombama (as well as 2008's LP nominee), but he simply "misses the bullseye" (as Dr. Block said), especially with advocating things like the FairTax. The FairTax is revenue neutral and it's not a good idea as Laurence Vance pointed out. Abolition of the income tax is good, but replacing it with the FairTax isn't the right thing to do.
 

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http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Libertarian-Johnson-no-government/2012/07/06/id/444657

Pretty good interview here with the Libertarian Candidate. I've donated a bit to his campaign and I'm pretty sure he's who I'll be voting for this year.

Please dont vote for this guy, or Dr. Paul. Believe me, i KNOW that gary and ron are the answers to ALL of Americas problems, but as we also know, Obama is the cause of these problems. A vote for mitt (as hard as it might be) is a vote to get that socialist dictator out of the white house and back to Indonesia where he was born.
 
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Please dont vote for this guy, or Dr. Paul. Believe me, i KNOW that gary and ron are the answers to ALL of Americas problems, but as we also know, Obama is the cause of these problems. A vote for mitt (as hard as it might be) is a vote to get that socialist dictator out of the white house and back to Indonesia where he was born.

LOL
 

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A vote for mitt (as hard as it might be) is a vote to get that socialist dictator out of the white house...

There is always a socialist dictator, should that mean our votes get taken for granted? So long as the Democrats stand present at the ballot we must accept the GOP corruption of conservatism?

Men who pretend to represent us are more dangerous than those who do not.
 

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A vote for McCain or Obama last time has the same effect of voting for Obama or Romney now. It is saddening to know that the majority of voters do not know this. We are destined to be ruled by the elite until the burden breaks the mules back.
 

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Please dont vote for this guy, or Dr. Paul. Believe me, i KNOW that gary and ron are the answers to ALL of Americas problems, but as we also know, Obama is the cause of these problems. A vote for mitt (as hard as it might be) is a vote to get that socialist dictator out of the white house and back to Indonesia where he was born.

lol wut? What's the difference between Obama and Romney? Seriously besides what colors they Rep, what's the difference? I'll vote for Gary Johnson because Gary Johnson has a good track record and I agree with many of his stances.
 

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lol wut? What's the difference between Obama and Romney? Seriously besides what colors they Rep, what's the difference? I'll vote for Gary Johnson because Gary Johnson has a good track record and I agree with many of his stances.


True, but you can't let perfect get in the way of good.

Only Good (Mitt) can vanquish Evil (Taliban Post Turtle).

You must be practical in order to save our very souls.

United we stand; fuck be upon our opponents.
 

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True, but you can't let perfect get in the way of good.

Only Good (Mitt) can vanquish Evil (Taliban Post Turtle).

You must be practical in order to save our very souls.

United we stand; fuck be upon our opponents.

lol wut?
 

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True, but you can't let perfect get in the way of good.

Only Good (Mitt) can vanquish Evil (Taliban Post Turtle).

You must be practical in order to save our very souls.

United we stand; fuck be upon our opponents.

That is the funniest thing I have read in P&N in a long time.

You sir, win +1 internets.

I'm not a fan of the Fair Tax, but I agree with Gary Johnson on may other things.
I was very sad when he received zero coverage from the media when he was running as a Republican.
 

Jaskalas

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sigh..

I'm having trouble beating the drum for a guy that FULLY backs amnesty while also demonizing the effort to secure the border. While I appreciate that Obama and Romney will do the same thing, it's quite a significant issue.

Only way to approach it is that we've got no better choice, and that he's right on all other issues. If he'd build a fence, deploy the entire military on the border, he'd pick up enough votes to enter the public debate. Sadly he wants no part of border security. Does sovereignty mean nothing to the Libertarian party?
 

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I'm having trouble beating the drum for a guy that FULLY backs amnesty while also demonizing the effort to secure the border. While I appreciate that Obama and Romney will do the same thing, it's quite a significant issue.

Only way to approach it is that we've got no better choice, and that he's right on all other issues. If he'd build a fence, deploy the entire military on the border, he'd pick up enough votes to enter the public debate. Sadly he wants no part of border security. Does sovereignty mean nothing to the Libertarian party?

I do not believe Johnson believes in full amnesty. He's gone on record as saying he wants to document all of the illegals and work towards better immigration policies concerning labor, skilled and unskilled, getting work permits. I agree with you though it is one of the main topics in which his stance I'm not sure I completely agree with. Though there's enough there from him that I'd be willing to trust his judgement. Like Texashiker I want real change, so I'll be voting for Johnson.
 

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sigh..

I'm having trouble beating the drum for a guy that FULLY backs amnesty while also demonizing the effort to secure the border. While I appreciate that Obama and Romney will do the same thing, it's quite a significant issue.

Only way to approach it is that we've got no better choice, and that he's right on all other issues. If he'd build a fence, deploy the entire military on the border, he'd pick up enough votes to enter the public debate. Sadly he wants no part of border security. Does sovereignty mean nothing to the Libertarian party?

It's not really full amnesty. He doesn't want to make all the illegals citizens, he just wants the ones that are honestly here to work to sign up for workers cards so we can document them, allow them to pay taxes legally, etc. After this is inplace, anybody that wasn't documented is clearly not here to work, so it'd be easier to sort out the good from the bad.
 

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Until you lock down the border, all of that is meaningless.

Agreed, but I believe ending the drug war and legalizing drugs will go a long ways towards helping. As would enacting policies with Mexico that benefit the people more so than their corrupt government.
 

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Agreed, but I believe ending the drug war and legalizing drugs will go a long ways towards helping. As would enacting policies with Mexico that benefit the people more so than their corrupt government.

That's fine with me. But, first one needs to lock down the border militarily, with deadly force pre-authorized so there are no questions on the extent at which we'll enforce our resistance to the illegal invasion.

Only then can any of the solutions to the myraid of other issues illegal invasion has made more complex be tackled. Without solving the root problem (at least from our perspective), one will just have the effects of Amnesty 1.0 under Reagan...that is, US talking, Illegals Walking (across our border).

Chuck
 
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Great, lets get excited about a Governor running a state with a population of 10 people.

And is mostly comprised of beloved patriot land? I know it sounds silly, but at least he didn't blow it all to hell and left it in better shape than when he took office. More than can be said about either Romney or Obama and their previous ventures.

chucky, could not really disagree with you there. We do need to have something resembling an actual border.
 

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What the OP and others keep forgetting (or ignoring) is that should a "3rd party candidate" somehow get elected to the White House, the political machines of the "2 main parties" would go into overdrive to make him look as bad as possible...and his term would end with absolutely NOTHING accomplished. That might be the only time the D's and R's worked together with a common goal.
 

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lol @ border loons. I swear it would be so fun to have a debate with you nuts in person. The poor plight of the everyday American being eroded by....back-breaking labor on the behalf of Mexicans.

As always, the root of libertarian kookiness tends to get ferreted out quite well when you're forced to man up in the real world.
 
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What the OP and others keep forgetting (or ignoring) is that should a "3rd party candidate" somehow get elected to the White House, the political machines of the "2 main parties" would go into overdrive to make him look as bad as possible...and his term would end with absolutely NOTHING accomplished. That might be the only time the D's and R's worked together with a common goal.


Nothing unites two warring tribes like a common enemy. :) Happened when the warders of the inner sphere invaded the lands of the crusaders in the outer sphere. Tribal differences were put aside as the clans united against their common foes.
 
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All things considered, I look again and realize it was the author of the article who mentioned amnesty, not the Governor. Though he did promise no border fence.

At the end of the day it's only worth so much if the Dems and Reps are allowed to keep burning down the house. Stopping them takes ultimate priority... even if we lose the Southwest.