Good "hanging out" wine?

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I'm inviting a young lady over for dinner and to watch a dvd tonight, I need a good wine suggestion for the watching a dvd part of the night. Dinner will be served with a wine my roommate suggests since he's helping me cook the meal (he's a professional cook) but I'm looking for something a little sweet, easy going down sorta wine that can be enjoyed on it's own. Rojas from spain (i think that's the name) is a personal favorite of mine but I'm looking to try something new - and something pretty affordable since I spent way too much traveling for easter.
thanks!

Edit: By "cheap" I mean sub-$20, not $3 maddog - though I do have fond memories of the stuff! ;)
 

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lol MD. That'll put some hair on your (or her) chest.

Check out a nice Reisling. It's a sweeter white wine.
 

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...planting the seeds for yet another YAGT. at least yours are interesting.
 
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Originally posted by: y2kc
...planting the seeds for yet another YAGT. at least yours are interesting.

hah.. at least i'm not as whiney as i used to be ;) this is our third date, if dinner, wine, and dvd watching doesn't do it then I'm moving on... i mean, I can try adding roofies to the mix but.. i kid, i kid!
 

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: y2kc
...planting the seeds for yet another YAGT. at least yours are interesting.

hah.. at least i'm not as whiney as i used to be ;) this is our third date, if dinner, wine, and dvd watching doesn't do it then I'm moving on... i mean, I can try adding roofies to the mix but.. i kid, i kid!

girls tend to like white zin .......its sweet/fruity and cheap.
 

Scarpozzi

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What's the meal? Girls like white wine more often than not.

If you're going that route, I suggest getting a New Zealand Savignon Blanc. They EXPLODE in your mouth, have an amazing aroma, and throw plenty of fruit at your pallete. They can actually seem overpowering....but are good for tasting.
 

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Rioja is what you're saying, and it's almost always dry; that is, no really perceptible level of residual sugar.

Something "a little sweet" limits the suggestions quite a bit since so many wines are dry, so I would suggest a German Riesling. You can get a high-quality wine for < $20 without a problem. I would suggest you look for a Riesling that's halbtrocken, or "half dry"; this should have enough residual sugar to suit you. It's also better served chilled, so your lady friend might like it.

Other than that you're rather limited. You could go the Champagne/Sparking wine/cava/etc. route. You can get a nice Freixenet for a reasonable cost, or you could get a legitimate non-vintage Champagne.

Perhaps you didn't really mean dry. A lot of people think that dry wine is somehow still sweet. For example, a lot of people describe Beaujolais as being sweet, but it's [mostly] not. If you further qualify your tastes more suggestions can be offered. Beaujolais is an inexpensive quality Burgundian wine (Gamay grape) that is great served chilled on a summer day. You can get a Beaujolais-Villages for under $20 easily.
 

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
I'm inviting a young lady over for dinner and to watch a dvd tonight, I need a good wine suggestion for the watching a dvd part of the night. Dinner will be served with a wine my roommate suggests since he's helping me cook the meal (he's a professional cook) but I'm looking for something a little sweet, easy going down sorta wine that can be enjoyed on it's own. Rojas from spain (i think that's the name) is a personal favorite of mine but I'm looking to try something new - and something pretty affordable since I spent way too much traveling for easter.
thanks!

Edit: By "cheap" I mean sub-$20, not $3 maddog - though I do have fond memories of the stuff! ;)


A good Zinfandel, maybe try Rancho Zabaco, or Ravenswood, or Messina Hof. Add some light assorted cheese and fruit with this type wine for munching during your movie... Yum, Yum!:thumbsup:
 
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Rioja is what you're saying, and it's almost always dry; that is, no really perceptible level of residual sugar.

Something "a little sweet" limits the suggestions quite a bit since so many wines are dry, so I would suggest a German Riesling. You can get a high-quality wine for < $20 without a problem. I would suggest you look for a Riesling that's halbtrocken, or "half dry"; this should have enough residual sugar to suit you. It's also better served chilled, so your lady friend might like it.

Other than that you're rather limited. You could go the Champagne/Sparking wine/cava/etc. route. You can get a nice Freixenet for a reasonable cost, or you could get a legitimate non-vintage Champagne.

Perhaps you didn't really mean dry. A lot of people think that dry wine is somehow still sweet. For example, a lot of people describe Beaujolais as being sweet, but it's [mostly] not. If you further qualify your tastes more suggestions can be offered. Beaujolais is an inexpensive quality Burgundian wine (Gamay grape) that is great served chilled on a summer day. You can get a Beaujolais-Villages for under $20 easily.

Wow, thanks for the thoughtful response. Let's remove the "sweet" requirement and add that we'll probably be munching on curry/thai flavored gourmet popcorn. Let's just assume regular popcorn and other movie watching snacks... i know, good wine should never be mixed with junk food but the goal of the night is to just "chill out" in a dark room and veg out a bit. So a wine that's casual yet doesn't scream "cheap," a wine that goes down easy (getting her a little tipsy wouldn't be a bad thing, right), and something that you won't regret drinking 4 cups in..

is that too vague? i admit to being a total wine neophyte but I'm willing to learn!
 

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Descartes
Rioja is what you're saying, and it's almost always dry; that is, no really perceptible level of residual sugar.

Something "a little sweet" limits the suggestions quite a bit since so many wines are dry, so I would suggest a German Riesling. You can get a high-quality wine for < $20 without a problem. I would suggest you look for a Riesling that's halbtrocken, or "half dry"; this should have enough residual sugar to suit you. It's also better served chilled, so your lady friend might like it.

Other than that you're rather limited. You could go the Champagne/Sparking wine/cava/etc. route. You can get a nice Freixenet for a reasonable cost, or you could get a legitimate non-vintage Champagne.

Perhaps you didn't really mean dry. A lot of people think that dry wine is somehow still sweet. For example, a lot of people describe Beaujolais as being sweet, but it's [mostly] not. If you further qualify your tastes more suggestions can be offered. Beaujolais is an inexpensive quality Burgundian wine (Gamay grape) that is great served chilled on a summer day. You can get a Beaujolais-Villages for under $20 easily.

Wow, thanks for the thoughtful response. Let's remove the "sweet" requirement and add that we'll probably be munching on curry/thai flavored gourmet popcorn. Let's just assume regular popcorn and other movie watching snacks... i know, good wine should never be mixed with junk food but the goal of the night is to just "chill out" in a dark room and veg out a bit. So a wine that's casual yet doesn't scream "cheap," a wine that goes down easy (getting her a little tipsy wouldn't be a bad thing, right), and something that you won't regret drinking 4 cups in..

is that too vague? i admit to being a total wine neophyte but I'm willing to learn!
http://www.arbormist.com/ArborMistWines/ExoticFruitsWhiteZinfandel.htm
 

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Originally posted by: skisteven1
lol MD. That'll put some hair on your (or her) chest.

Check out a nice Reisling. It's a sweeter white wine.

Riesling gets my bid too. Had a great dr. heyden's last night with sushi.
 

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Descartes
Rioja is what you're saying, and it's almost always dry; that is, no really perceptible level of residual sugar.

Something "a little sweet" limits the suggestions quite a bit since so many wines are dry, so I would suggest a German Riesling. You can get a high-quality wine for < $20 without a problem. I would suggest you look for a Riesling that's halbtrocken, or "half dry"; this should have enough residual sugar to suit you. It's also better served chilled, so your lady friend might like it.

Other than that you're rather limited. You could go the Champagne/Sparking wine/cava/etc. route. You can get a nice Freixenet for a reasonable cost, or you could get a legitimate non-vintage Champagne.

Perhaps you didn't really mean dry. A lot of people think that dry wine is somehow still sweet. For example, a lot of people describe Beaujolais as being sweet, but it's [mostly] not. If you further qualify your tastes more suggestions can be offered. Beaujolais is an inexpensive quality Burgundian wine (Gamay grape) that is great served chilled on a summer day. You can get a Beaujolais-Villages for under $20 easily.

Wow, thanks for the thoughtful response. Let's remove the "sweet" requirement and add that we'll probably be munching on curry/thai flavored gourmet popcorn. Let's just assume regular popcorn and other movie watching snacks... i know, good wine should never be mixed with junk food but the goal of the night is to just "chill out" in a dark room and veg out a bit. So a wine that's casual yet doesn't scream "cheap," a wine that goes down easy (getting her a little tipsy wouldn't be a bad thing, right), and something that you won't regret drinking 4 cups in..

is that too vague? i admit to being a total wine neophyte but I'm willing to learn!



Well in that case, some fine Sake that is served cold.. like Asian Moon Pear... it is not real sweet, but very mild and you serve it cold like a fine white wine.

It goes with alot of things!
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Rioja is what you're saying, and it's almost always dry; that is, no really perceptible level of residual sugar.

Something "a little sweet" limits the suggestions quite a bit since so many wines are dry, so I would suggest a German Riesling. You can get a high-quality wine for < $20 without a problem. I would suggest you look for a Riesling that's halbtrocken, or "half dry"; this should have enough residual sugar to suit you. It's also better served chilled, so your lady friend might like it.

Other than that you're rather limited. You could go the Champagne/Sparking wine/cava/etc. route. You can get a nice Freixenet for a reasonable cost, or you could get a legitimate non-vintage Champagne.

Perhaps you didn't really mean dry. A lot of people think that dry wine is somehow still sweet. For example, a lot of people describe Beaujolais as being sweet, but it's [mostly] not. If you further qualify your tastes more suggestions can be offered. Beaujolais is an inexpensive quality Burgundian wine (Gamay grape) that is great served chilled on a summer day. You can get a Beaujolais-Villages for under $20 easily.

I'll echo that Beaujolais Villages is a good sweet wine. Goes good with italian food like red sauces. I can buy a bottle of Louis Jadot 2004 BV for $10.99 at the end of the street. Just for reference....it's a french wine.

You really need to figure out what grape you want. Another good one is a Montepulciano from Italy...like a Valley Reale. That's a decent $15-17 bottle. There are many good Pinot Noirs out there too if you want something a little more complex. Also, check out Luigi Bosca Malbec. It's a GREAT value.....
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Descartes
Rioja is what you're saying, and it's almost always dry; that is, no really perceptible level of residual sugar.

Something "a little sweet" limits the suggestions quite a bit since so many wines are dry, so I would suggest a German Riesling. You can get a high-quality wine for < $20 without a problem. I would suggest you look for a Riesling that's halbtrocken, or "half dry"; this should have enough residual sugar to suit you. It's also better served chilled, so your lady friend might like it.

Other than that you're rather limited. You could go the Champagne/Sparking wine/cava/etc. route. You can get a nice Freixenet for a reasonable cost, or you could get a legitimate non-vintage Champagne.

Perhaps you didn't really mean dry. A lot of people think that dry wine is somehow still sweet. For example, a lot of people describe Beaujolais as being sweet, but it's [mostly] not. If you further qualify your tastes more suggestions can be offered. Beaujolais is an inexpensive quality Burgundian wine (Gamay grape) that is great served chilled on a summer day. You can get a Beaujolais-Villages for under $20 easily.

Wow, thanks for the thoughtful response. Let's remove the "sweet" requirement and add that we'll probably be munching on curry/thai flavored gourmet popcorn. Let's just assume regular popcorn and other movie watching snacks... i know, good wine should never be mixed with junk food but the goal of the night is to just "chill out" in a dark room and veg out a bit.

Nothing wrong with that; if you enjoy the experience and your palate agrees, then dogmatic notions of food-pairing don't really mean much.

If you are going to be eating anything spicy like clove, ginger, or anything else that you might find in Curry/Thai dishes, then your sweet requirement was actually quite accurate; the sweetness helps take the edge off the spice and provide an overall very balanced profile.

Given that it's going to be something spicy yet simple I would almost say just get something like a Gewurtztraminer. It would be a nice compliment in that it's sweet, floral, medium-bodied (depends on the style), and an overall very interesting wine. A Gewurtz might be a little too much for the palate to handle, especially if you're not familiar with it; so, I would still have to recommend a solid German Riesling. You could go for a late-harvest dessert type of a wine as well. These are wonderful in their own right, and since you are eating more snacks than anything else they might be a great compliment.

If you want to get crazy you could get a nice Sauternes (e.g. Chateau d'Yquem--expensive), but there are less inexpensive Sauternes options as well. You could also take the Riesling up a few notches and get an Auslese, or for something really sweet... a Beerernauslese. These are wonderful wines that have enough interest to stand out by themselves, but they should be a nice compliment to spicy dishes as well. Keep in mind that the richer more complex the wine, the greater the cost. A good Sauternes or a Beerenauslese will set you back quite a lot.

What you don't want is a wine with a lot of acid, so you don't want a harsh Chardonnay that hasn't gone through a malolactic fermentation, for example. A Loire Valley French white is probably going to be too acidic for you (e.g. a Muscadet Sur Lie has a lot of citrus, pineappleish flavors that would be rather offensive with your curry/Thai snacks).

So a wine that's casual yet doesn't scream "cheap," a wine that goes down easy (getting her a little tipsy wouldn't be a bad thing, right), and something that you won't regret drinking 4 cups in..

The great thing about wine is you can find something interesting and fantastic for relatively little cost. Granted, you won't be picking up a German Beerenauslese for < $20, but you might be able to find an Auslese; however, a halbtrocken Riesling should suit you both, and it comes in bottle that's interesting as well.

is that too vague? i admit to being a total wine neophyte but I'm willing to learn!

A willingness to learn is all that's needed. The world of wine is wonderful indeed, and there are so many incredible options available that you could spend a lifetime sampling them. I find wine to be so poignant in my memory that I can literally think of almost any bottle that I've had and transpose myself to that moment.

So, in summary... I would consider the following:

- A Washington Gewurtztraminer or Riesling. Chateau Ste. Michelle has both that are quite good and very reasonable. Their "Eroica" label is consistently high quality.

- A German Riesling, halbtrocken. 2003 was an incredible vintage for Germany. There are a lot of different options available, but just pick something that appeals to you and try it out. They're relatively inexpensive.

- An Alsacian Gewurtz. Trimbach is a consistent producer.

There are so many more options to consider, but too lengthy for this post. We're not considering a lot of great regions.
 

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Descartes
Rioja is what you're saying, and it's almost always dry; that is, no really perceptible level of residual sugar.

Something "a little sweet" limits the suggestions quite a bit since so many wines are dry, so I would suggest a German Riesling. You can get a high-quality wine for < $20 without a problem. I would suggest you look for a Riesling that's halbtrocken, or "half dry"; this should have enough residual sugar to suit you. It's also better served chilled, so your lady friend might like it.

Other than that you're rather limited. You could go the Champagne/Sparking wine/cava/etc. route. You can get a nice Freixenet for a reasonable cost, or you could get a legitimate non-vintage Champagne.

Perhaps you didn't really mean dry. A lot of people think that dry wine is somehow still sweet. For example, a lot of people describe Beaujolais as being sweet, but it's [mostly] not. If you further qualify your tastes more suggestions can be offered. Beaujolais is an inexpensive quality Burgundian wine (Gamay grape) that is great served chilled on a summer day. You can get a Beaujolais-Villages for under $20 easily.

Wow, thanks for the thoughtful response. Let's remove the "sweet" requirement and add that we'll probably be munching on curry/thai flavored gourmet popcorn. Let's just assume regular popcorn and other movie watching snacks... i know, good wine should never be mixed with junk food but the goal of the night is to just "chill out" in a dark room and veg out a bit.

Nothing wrong with that; if you enjoy the experience and your palate agrees, then dogmatic notions of food-pairing don't really mean much.

If you are going to be eating anything spicy like clove, ginger, or anything else that you might find in Curry/Thai dishes, then your sweet requirement was actually quite accurate; the sweetness helps take the edge off the spice and provide an overall very balanced profile.

Given that it's going to be something spicy yet simple I would almost say just get something like a Gewurtztraminer. It would be a nice compliment in that it's sweet, floral, medium-bodied (depends on the style), and an overall very interesting wine. A Gewurtz might be a little too much for the palate to handle, especially if you're not familiar with it; so, I would still have to recommend a solid German Riesling. You could go for a late-harvest dessert type of a wine as well. These are wonderful in their own right, and since you are eating more snacks than anything else they might be a great compliment.

If you want to get crazy you could get a nice Sauternes (e.g. Chateau d'Yquem--expensive), but there are less inexpensive Sauternes options as well. You could also take the Riesling up a few notches and get an Auslese, or for something really sweet... a Beerernauslese. These are wonderful wines that have enough interest to stand out by themselves, but they should be a nice compliment to spicy dishes as well. Keep in mind that the richer more complex the wine, the greater the cost. A good Sauternes or a Beerenauslese will set you back quite a lot.

What you don't want is a wine with a lot of acid, so you don't want a harsh Chardonnay that hasn't gone through a malolactic fermentation, for example. A Loire Valley French white is probably going to be too acidic for you (e.g. a Muscadet Sur Lie has a lot of citrus, pineappleish flavors that would be rather offensive with your curry/Thai snacks).

So a wine that's casual yet doesn't scream "cheap," a wine that goes down easy (getting her a little tipsy wouldn't be a bad thing, right), and something that you won't regret drinking 4 cups in..

The great thing about wine is you can find something interesting and fantastic for relatively little cost. Granted, you won't be picking up a German Beerenauslese for < $20, but you might be able to find an Auslese; however, a halbtrocken Riesling should suit you both, and it comes in bottle that's interesting as well.

is that too vague? i admit to being a total wine neophyte but I'm willing to learn!

A willingness to learn is all that's needed. The world of wine is wonderful indeed, and there are so many incredible options available that you could spend a lifetime sampling them. I find wine to be so poignant in my memory that I can literally think of almost any bottle that I've had and transpose myself to that moment.

So, in summary... I would consider the following:

- A Washington Gewurtztraminer or Riesling. Chateau Ste. Michelle has both that are quite good and very reasonable. Their "Eroica" label is consistently high quality.

- A German Riesling, halbtrocken. 2003 was an incredible vintage for Germany. There are a lot of different options available, but just pick something that appeals to you and try it out. They're relatively inexpensive.

- An Alsacian Gewurtz. Trimbach is a consistent producer.

There are so many more options to consider, but too lengthy for this post. We're not considering a lot of great regions.

Descartes: just curious about where you developed your taste? Private connoisseur? Critic?
 
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thanks so much for the wonderful info. I'm compiling a list and heading to the wine shop tonight. I might even pay a visit to the new trader joes in nyc - so tempting!

thanks again, Descartes - expect more PMs from me in the future as I explore the exciting new world of wine! i think i'll pick up a different bottle or 2 every week to speed up my education ;)
 

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- A Washington Gewurtztraminer or Riesling. Chateau Ste. Michelle has both that are quite good and very reasonable. Their "Eroica" label is consistently high quality.

Chateau Ste. Michelle was my first thought when reading the thread. About $9.00 a bottle and can be found at most wineshops. It's a little more dry for a Riesling, but that's not a bad thing. Some Rieslings are overly sweet and not something that you can have multiple glasses of (if that's your intent).