Good deal?

[Malak]

I was cruising newegg with the idea of building a system from scratch and came across a full combo that seems like a reasonable price but wanted a 2nd(or 3rd) opinion.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.722621

 

[mnewsham]

meh, isnt BAD.

 

[Malak]

meh, isnt BAD.

Yeah I really don't need a 1tb hard drive or quad core or 8gb of RAM but the price seems good. I will keep trying to find a better deal. Trying to go cheap.

 

[zi0n.]

meh, isnt BAD.

This.

But you might be able to do combos yourself and save more. After all its only $55 discount.

 

[Malak]

This.

But you might be able to do combos yourself and save more. After all its only $55 discount.

That is what I am hoping since I am not looking for high end, but this wasn't exactly high end and the discount is significant enough, possibly to make up price difference with lesser hardware.

 

[Ken g6]

These days, it's hard to put "AMD" and "deal" together in the same sentence (unless you're talking about GPUs.)

What are you looking for, and why wouldn't, say, a G530 plus maybe a cheap graphics card do it for you?

 

[Malak]

These days, it's hard to put "AMD" and "deal" together in the same sentence (unless you're talking about GPUs.)

What are you looking for, and why wouldn't, say, a G530 plus maybe a cheap graphics card do it for you?

Well you are talking a much, much worse CPU and a video card for about the same price. Honestly, after reviewing my options so far I don't think I will find a better deal simply because the A8 has onboard graphics that will work perfectly.

 

[Ken g6]

Based on benchmarks for a G620, I'd say a G540 is about the same CPU-wise, with a somewhat worse onboard GPU (which is still quite functional, and better than previous generations of Intel graphics). A motherboard for either Intel CPU is cheaper, too.

But maybe this doesn't have the features you want? If you answer the questions in [thread=80121]the stickied thread[/thread], maybe we can find a deal more to your liking.

 

[Malak]

I have a hard time picking a Celeron. The benchmarks didn't change my mind. I am not opposed to Intel in general though.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

yeah, like Celeron...sounds lowgrade

 

[mfenn]

I have a hard time picking a Celeron. The benchmarks didn't change my mind. I am not opposed to Intel in general though.

Huh? The benchmarks show that the Sandy Bridge chip is superior in pretty much every way except for 3d rendering. How wouldn't that change your mind? Both GPUs are weak enough that you're not going to be able to do any serious gaming.

 

[Malak]

Huh? The benchmarks show that the Sandy Bridge chip is superior in pretty much every way except for 3d rendering. How wouldn't that change your mind? Both GPUs are weak enough that you're not going to be able to do any serious gaming.

I think getting 70fps on Crysis is serious enough for me. Plus the benchmarks showed the A8 superior in almost every benchmark, and he was recommending a lower model than the g620.

 

[mfenn]

I think getting 70fps on Crysis is serious enough for me. Plus the benchmarks showed the A8 superior in almost every benchmark, and he was recommending a lower model than the g620.

#1 That's 70 FPS only with a dedicated GPU, which hasn't been mentioned up until now.
#2 In the link that Ken gave, the G620 is in black. It is faster in most benchmarks.
#3 The G540 is a whopping 200Mhz slower than the G620.

 

[mfenn]

In the interests of putting my money where my mouth is, here's an Intel system that will dominate that combo.

i3 2100 $125
ASRock H61M/U3S3 $70
Corsair DDR3 1333 8GB $42
Seagate 1TB HDD + Lite-ON DVD Burner $73
Corsair 430CX $35 AR
Fractal Design Core 1000 $40
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $100
Total: $485 AR

 

[Ken g6]

I hate to contradict the master, but that case does come with a PSU. If you go with it instead of the Fractal Design + Corsair, that's exactly $470 AR. (For a "just OK" PSU.)

But I'm afraid Malak may want to game on this system or something.

 

[mfenn]

I hate to contradict the master, but that case does come with a PSU. If you go with it instead of the Fractal Design + Corsair, that's exactly $470 AR. (For a "just OK" PSU.)

But I'm afraid Malak may want to game on this system or something.

You are correct sir. I was wondering why a CM Elite would cost $60.

If Malak wants to game on this system, he's going to be shelling out for a GPU either way. Unless his game of choice is Minecraft or something.

 

[Malak]

#1 That's 70 FPS only with a dedicated GPU, which hasn't been mentioned up until now.
#2 In the link that Ken gave, the G620 is in black. It is faster in most benchmarks.
#3 The G540 is a whopping 200Mhz slower than the G620.

Read the benchmarks again. You are missing something.

 

[Malak]

In the interests of putting my money where my mouth is, here's an Intel system that will dominate that combo.

i3 2100 $125
ASRock H61M/U3S3 $70
Corsair DDR3 1333 8GB $42
Seagate 1TB HDD + Lite-ON DVD Burner $73
Corsair 430CX $35 AR
Fractal Design Core 1000 $40
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit $100
Total: $485 AR

A crappier motherboard and much crappier case with a slightly better proc will "dominate" the other selection? You are doing a better job of convincing me my combo is a good deal than otherwise. I can probably make a better combo anyway.

 

[mnewsham]

A crappier motherboard and much crappier case with a slightly better proc will "dominate" the other selection? You are doing a better job of convincing me my combo is a good deal than otherwise. I can probably make a better combo anyway.

You dont have any idea how any of this stuff works do you...?

 

[titan131]

I think getting 70fps on Crysis is serious enough for me.

That's quite impressive, I wonder what difference, using slower, 1333mhz ram will make, probably not too much from looking at the benches.

 

[mnewsham]

That's quite impressive, I wonder what difference, using slower, 1333mhz ram will make, probably not too much from looking at the benches.

That is WITH the dedicated GPU, not the on-die GPU.

 

[titan131]

That is WITH the dedicated GPU, not the on-die GPU.

Hmmm I don't think it was, if you look at the review they make no mention of a dedicated gpu being used and it states they are using the on die 6550D in the charts, they even tested it using faster ram. I don't think the performance would improve with faster ram if they were using a dedicated gpu.

 

[mnewsham]

Hmmm I don't think it was, if you look at the review they make no mention of a dedicated gpu being used and it states they are using the on die 6550D in the charts, they even tested it using faster ram. I don't think the performance would improve with faster ram if they were using a dedicated gpu.

you mean when they run it at 1280x1024?

That resolution is barely used anymore, not to mention it was on LOW settings.

 

[titan131]

you mean when they run it at 1280x1024?

That resolution is barely used anymore, not to mention it was on LOW settings.

yeah I know, I still thought it was impressive, I mean it is crisis =)

edit: I am used to gaming on a 19" 1280x1024 lcd, so when I saw the resolution I felt quite at home but I take your point, it isn't used much now days.

 

[mnewsham]

yeah I know, I still thought it was impressive, I mean it is crisis =)

edit: I am used to game on a 19" 1280x1024 lcd, so when I saw the resolution I felt quite at home but I take your point, it isn't used much now days.

sandy bridge IGP gets 30FPS, which is still playable.