Good comp or no?

[bonhimself]

ok guys, im building my first comp and im just wondering if all the parts are compatible with each other, if u would recommend another part, or just anything that could be wrong with this setup. my parts so far are:

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
AMD A64 3700+ SD
Leadtek WinFast 7800 GTX
Corsair ValueSelect 1 GB 184-Pin
Samsung 160GB HD
Aspire X-Navigator ATX Case
Windows XP Pro X64

if i missed any part im sorry n let me kno...very new to building a comp

Please tell me if there is anything wrong with this setup, or if you have any helpful feedback. PLEASE.

 

[bob4432]

just get the regular version of xp pro as the driver support for xp64 is not that good. other than that looks good

 

[mOeeOm]

3700+ SD to 3800+ X2 if you are willing to spring for the extra $100. Not saying that the 3700+ SD is a bad processor, I have it, its a beast, but the 3800+ X2 is more future ready.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
3700+ SD to 3800+ X2 if you are willing to spring for the extra $100. Not saying that the 3700+ SD is a bad processor, I have it, its a beast, but the 3800+ X2 is more future ready.

but by the op selecting the gpu he did tells me that games is important, and a 3700diego will beat a 3800x2, and for some time.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
3700+ SD to 3800+ X2 if you are willing to spring for the extra $100. Not saying that the 3700+ SD is a bad processor, I have it, its a beast, but the 3800+ X2 is more future ready.

but by the op selecting the gpu he did tells me that games is important, and a 3700diego will beat a 3800x2, and for some time.

Well..true yes, and SD is a better overclocker(if he was overclocking I suggest the DFI lanparty nf4 SLI-DR), I suppose when X2 start being used in games more he can sell his SD and buy a good X2.

 

[natto fire]

Originally posted by: bob4432

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
3700+ SD to 3800+ X2 if you are willing to spring for the extra $100. Not saying that the 3700+ SD is a bad processor, I have it, its a beast, but the 3800+ X2 is more future ready.

but by the op selecting the gpu he did tells me that games is important, and a 3700diego will beat a 3800x2, and for some time.

I would imagine that multi-threaded games are more common before the 7800 GTX becomes obsolete, this is all speculation of course

 

[StrangerGuy]

I agree with mOeeOm. It's silly not to choose the X2 given a small $100 difference. The extra fps the 3700+ gives you is nothing compared to the advantages of dual-core.

 

[Lonyo]

In some ways no.
Save yourself $45 <-- cheaper 3700+

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy
I agree with mOeeOm. It's silly not to choose the X2 given a small $100 difference. The extra fps the 3700+ gives you is nothing compared to the advantages of dual-core.

$100?
$60 from the Newegg 3700+ price.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy
I agree with mOeeOm. It's silly not to choose the X2 given a small $100 difference. The extra fps the 3700+ gives you is nothing compared to the advantages of dual-core.

Well no the only reason I recommended the 3800+ X2 is because it is more future ready, it will be good when multireaded games start coming out, but for now the 3700+ SD destroys it. If he's like me and closes all programs before playing games or doesn't multitask much, the 3700+ is for him.

 

[bob4432]

the problem is that noboby really knows when mulithreaded games will come out, and be somewhat stable. hell we can't even get a single threaded game like bf2 to come out and be stable before 2 patches (at least they are working on much better than bf:v). it could easily be years.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: bob4432
the problem is that noboby really knows when mulithreaded games will come out, and be somewhat stable. hell we can't even get a single threaded game like bf2 to come out and be stable before 2 patches (at least they are working on much better than bf:v). it could easily be years.

Isnt it the new oblivion? Morrowind supposed to be multithreaded and isnt it coming out late 2005? I know UT2007 will multithreaded but who knows when that will come out.

 

[bob4432]

now the companies just tease us and make us want hardware that will be obsolete, or at least slow by then, when the games can actually utilize it

i probably won't build a new machine until the dcs are actually utilized, but will upgrade my gpu since i mostly do fps...

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Gothic 3, Alan Wake, Age of Empires 3 will be multithreaded code too, but would u really want to buy an expensive CPU today, and see the first multithreaded game come out in mid 2006, (remember 64bit CPU`s and WinXP64...transition took/takes years) But anyways imo a X2 3800+ makes no sense for a gamer, since it would be bottlenecking the Gpu all the time. No disresepct to X2, but many ppl just dont need yet.

 

[JonMooring]

I'm gonna throw off the CPU talk and say get SATA, it's more future-ready

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

Your parts all look fine, except if you want to save $20 on the graphics card, the MSI one is only $480 @ Newegg. I don't suggest that case though. The Antec P160 is only ~$100 now, and it's nice and shiny alluminum, and it should cancel out noise a lot better too. If you do stick with that case though, make sure you buy a seperate power supply. The ones are comes with cases are usually crappy. Go with a good 450W+ PSU from a quality manufacturer like Antec, Fortron, Sparkle, OCZ, Enermax, XClio, etc. Make sure it has at least ~24A on the +12V rail(s).

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: JonMooring
I'm gonna throw off the CPU talk and say get SATA, it's more future-ready

pata will be around for a long time. get what ever drive is cheaper since performance is bascially the same except for the raptors. if a sata is only a couple of $$$ more than fine, but don't expect it to perform better than a pata

 

[n7]

Get a better PSU. Enermax Noisetakers are good & cheap.
BenQ DW1640 is likely the best DVD-/+RW if you need one.
Maybe go for 2 GB RAM? Look at teh OCZ value stuff.

Oh, & don't get x64 XP. Get XP Pro.

There's too many driver issues with the x64 version of XP.

 

[coomar]

get a better psu, that 450watt generic might run into problems with the 7800gtx

 

[bonhimself]

yeah i close all my other programs moeeom.

and unless x64 gets better i think im going for reg pro then.

and the only reason i got that case was cuz of psu, and if most of u think it wont do, im probably gonna find another case.

thanks fer the help!

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Now pardon me if I'm wrong, but is there just ever a reason that if you doing single core, to get anything other than the 3000+Venice . I mean when it overclocks so easily to processors like the 3700 and so forth, why spend the extra cash???

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

cuz its not really so easy

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
cuz its not really so easy

just change the fsb and memory divider if needed and maybe voltage for cpu, that is all...also, with the 7800gtx, i bet the 3000venice would be fine with any of the current games, since they are mostly gpu limited

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Now pardon me if I'm wrong, but is there just ever a reason that if you doing single core, to get anything other than the 3000+Venice . I mean when it overclocks so easily to processors like the 3700 and so forth, why spend the extra cash???

personally i like antec cases and the sonata II is a nice one with a 450W p/s in it.

 

[bfonnes]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm

Originally posted by: bob4432
the problem is that noboby really knows when mulithreaded games will come out, and be somewhat stable. hell we can't even get a single threaded game like bf2 to come out and be stable before 2 patches (at least they are working on much better than bf:v). it could easily be years.

Isnt it the new oblivion? Morrowind supposed to be multithreaded and isnt it coming out late 2005? I know UT2007 will multithreaded but who knows when that will come out.

ya, but Morrowind is a Huge game... I don't think it's the multithreading that would be holding it up... I'm sure someone could write some kind of program/compiler that would make programming for it easy, then have a human clean up the hairy parts. Shouldn't be too hard for a good programmer I would think.

BFonnes