Good 21" CRT for gaming

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kaishaku72

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Other readers should know I do not agree with all of
xtknights above comments. That is all. Good night.
 

xtknight

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:confused: I'm really confused...what is it that you don't agree with? Your opinion is valid as is mine so I'd like to hear yours as well?

Well when I said any NEC/Mitsu AG should look good I meant ones without any obvious defects...
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: xtknight
For the blurriness you probably have to adjust the dial inside the CRT. It's not necessarily defective. It's like how monitors are shipped without being calibrated. For the first problem I had something like that on an old NEC MultiSync shadow mask CRT...it was a weird dead pixel thing. Probably dust in the shadow mask. Sorry you have not had a good experience, but like many a user here has noted, AG CRT QC has gone down the toilet as of late.

P.S. I will not be spending a lot of time trying to convince people the
problems were real again. They were hilariously beyond obvious.
I don't know why xtknight is replying above, especially so quickly.

I posted that before I read your above reply (didn't notice). I never said your problems weren't real? I have noticed both myself.

It basically is defective since you should never have to open a CRT. In fact, that's a huge risk of getting electrocuted to death.
 

the Chase

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Hey xtknight- what about the new SED's coming- do they have higher refreshrates than CRT's at same res? any other info on these?

Nevermind-just read your thread on them-looks like I won't be buying an LCD anytime soon.

Also I have a blurry 21" samsung syncmaster- is it fairly easy to find and adjust this dail once you get the back "case" off? A little high voltage elecricity doesn't scare me- no need for coffee THAT morning!!
 

CP5670

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Sorry to hear of your experience with this. As I said earlier, getting any good CRT these days is risky (and ordering online, the only choice left now, means there is also the issue of possible shipping damage), although in this case it could be that this company is being shady and those aren't really new at all.

Also, I'm not sure if this applies to the rebadged 2070s since they have different cabinets, but with the cabinet on the original NEC/Mitsubishi versions, there are two holes on the side that allow you to adjust those focus screws without opening it up. They can make a big difference, but they will only fix things if the blurriness is uniform acoss the screen (many of the bad quality AG CRTs are blurry only along the edges).
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: the Chase
Hey xtknight- what about the new SED's coming- do they have higher refreshrates than CRT's at same res? any other info on these?

Nevermind-just read your thread on them-looks like I won't be buying an LCD anytime soon.

Also I have a blurry 21" samsung syncmaster- is it fairly easy to find and adjust this dail once you get the back "case" off? A little high voltage elecricity doesn't scare me- no need for coffee THAT morning!!

I'm not sure of SED refresh rates...but you can bet they will do more R&D once they get SEDs out and increase the refresh rate should it be anything subpar.

Hehh...just don't touch certain parts and you won't have a problem with adjusting that dial. I thought those Mitsu monitors had this option in the OSD, but I guess not?
 

jnjboc

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I have had a Mitsu Diamond Pro 2070sb for about 2 years now. It is fantastic for game graphics. As others have said, I will NOT be jumping on the panel monitor train for a long time. Panels are very nice from a space perspective though-can't argue with that.

I still feel nothing compares to a CRT, as high res levels are obtained very easily, and automatically(compared to widescreens). Yes, this thing is BIG, really BIG. lot's of desk space-but I don't have to worry about pixel burnouts :) It's extremely front heavy, and very heavy in general, so you really have to be careful even pulling it out of the box, as it will tip on you in a big hurry. make sure you have a strong base for this piece. it's well worth the aggrevation of locating it-hey once it's in place you don't have to mess with it again........unless you move!

Very easy to calibrate. It comes with a very competent software calibration program. However, I popped a spider on mine, and it performed an amazing external calibration. it looks exceptional now. I use it for all my Photoshop CS2 works as well, and the color is absolutely dead on.

If you can locate one and have the space, I highly recommend it...