Gonzales: "No Place For Politics At Justice"

[gcy]

He still don't get it. He is the problem and now he wants to fix himself. :roll:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/07/24/couricandco/entry3092503.shtml">Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales finally found the time and space to briefly share with lawmakers his latest views on the U.S. Attorney scandal?the ?politicization of hiring in the Department? he labels it with a false sense of detachment.
?I believe very strongly that there is no place for political considerations in the hiring of our career employees or in the administration of justice,? the Attorney General writes. ?As such, the allegations of such activity have been troubling to hear. From my perspective, there are two options available in light of these allegations. I could walk away or I could devote my time, effort and energy to fix the problems. Since I have never been one to quit, I decided that the best course of action was to remain here and fix the problems. That is exactly what I am doing.?
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[1EZduzit]

He forgot an option. He could quit and help OJ look for the "real murderer".

 

[Lemon law]

Yep---once again when the decider and his team of deciders decide anything----its usually decidedly dumb and deserves a dope slap.

Very seldom is the person who broke it to be trusted in fixing it. Get the hint---get thee gone--Gonzales.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: gcy
"No Place For Politics At Justice"

By definition, that means there's no place for Gonzo the Clown at DOJ.

Originally posted by: Lemon law
get thee gone--Gonzales.

Better yet... Get three gone -- Bush, Cheney and Gonzales.

Where is "a government of the people, by the people and for the people" when we really need one? :roll:

 

[ProfJohn]

That?s a great quote.

You would think that he could have come up with a better answer than that. He has to know that he?ll be attacked for being part of the problem.

 

[Lemon law]

Thats a heck of an answer---He has to know that he?ll be attacked for being part of the problem.

As if he is somehow courageous?---and thereby ennobled.

After trying a cover story that was discredited as a giant lie using just the small set of documents turned over to investigators. And this whole fiasco has just gone downhill from there---and all his aides who did his dirty political work are forced to resign and plead the 5'th to avoid criminal complicity---but still Gonzales as the axis of evil remains.---and now offers to repair himself?

You may be right in saying Gonzales will be attacked---but the man has already demonstrated that there seems no limit in how low he will go while being sanctimoniously shameless.---how can any believe his claim of being now rehabilitated when Gonzales and the truth have been total strangers.

But if you want to try putting lipstick on that pig--its just gonna spotlight you and the strange pig fetish you seem to have.

 

[1EZduzit]

I'm sure Gonzo will put his best men on this problem right away and have it cleared up in two shakes of a pigs tail.

 

[Thump553]

Did you catch his testimony denying he was pressuring (then Attorney General) Ashcroft while Ashcroft was gravely ill in the hospital? Gonzales' latest version is that he had met with several senators that day who wanted the survellience program renewed, so Gonzales and the other White House attorney were merely visiting Ashcroft in the hospital to pass along that knowledge.

The man has absolutely no sense of reality, shame or justice. I wouldn't trust him to babysit my kid, much less run one the most important wings of our government. I still shudder when I think how close he came to being put on the Supreme Court by Bush.

 

[Lemon law]

Well---no doubt about it---if Alberto Gonzales has experienced the sudden revaluation that there is no room for politics in the American people's justice department, the only way to demonstrate his sincerity is to forthwith resign----all else is more excuses and pandering---and devoid of an iota of insight.

And instead Gonzales pursues the strategy of an ostrich---or a Turkey---and in the smoke and mirror mirage---no one is sure---but it will be the GWB talking point of the week---coming to you on Fox or Limbaugh. The new Gonzales has reformed---spread the joyous new and ring McCain's church bell.

 

[Kadarin]

He won't be able to fix a damned thing because he can't remember what the problem was...

 

[OrByte]

His performance today was bad. Truly bad. Like I don't know how he sleeps at night knowing what a fraud he is.

And of course GWB supports him and will continue to do so. I just don't get it... how could people be so wrong?

Like the winguts in here that support this gang of criminals...how could you be soo wrong for soooo long?? Its ok to admit you are a Repub and you don't approve of the current administration.

really it is!

 

[kage69]

And instead Gonzales pursues the strategy of an ostrich

Maybe he's been hanging out here at P&N? This maneuver has been en vogue with a number of our resident cheerleaders...


This debacle is quickly becoming one of the more vomit-inducing aspects of Bush's fantastic appointee history. I simply cannot fathom the ability of AG to repeatedly spew complete and utter sh!t. Impressive, even by Bush standards.

 

[jackschmittusa]

The Justice Department is a section of our government that should strive to achieve the highest level of trust from the people, and should always conduct its actions in ways that are unquestionably honorable and forthright.

Gonzales has repeatedly painted himself as dishonorable and evasive.

It is beyond comprehension that he could say with a straight face that he wants to stay and fix things.

 

[1EZduzit]

I caught a lot of the Gonzales hearing and he was pathetic at best. He even changed some of the rules so the VP, his cheif of staff, it sounded like pretty much the whole white house staff, and and many others could read the records of ongoing cases.

Why would the VP or the white house dtaff need to know those things? It has nothing at all to do with their functions? And now Gonzales is going to fix it?

I've heard the old saying "Send a thief to catch a thief" but send the same one top catch himself?? Yeahhhh, right. :roll:

 

[ericlp]

I don't think Gonzales would still be in office if we had someone else at the helm. It's a bunch of BS. Like Bush, should have been Sh!t canned a long time ago.

 

[Moonbeam]

Another aspect of the catastrophe that is Bush. He stands there and laughs in your face.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Fox announces outrage at wanton chicken slaughter, pledges to personally oversee investigation into coop deaths.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

It's like Hitler saying "Ethnicity does not matter".

The words are as such and the actions are opposite to what they say.

Gonzo needs to go, i'm not even American and even *I* get that.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Thats a heck of an answer---He has to know that he?ll be attacked for being part of the problem.

As if he is somehow courageous?---and thereby ennobled.

After trying a cover story that was discredited as a giant lie using just the small set of documents turned over to investigators. And this whole fiasco has just gone downhill from there---and all his aides who did his dirty political work are forced to resign and plead the 5'th to avoid criminal complicity---but still Gonzales as the axis of evil remains.---and now offers to repair himself?

You may be right in saying Gonzales will be attacked---but the man has already demonstrated that there seems no limit in how low he will go while being sanctimoniously shameless.---how can any believe his claim of being now rehabilitated when Gonzales and the truth have been total strangers.

But if you want to try putting lipstick on that pig--its just gonna spotlight you and the strange pig fetish you seem to have.

I never want to hear you bitch about misquoting somebody ever again.

 

[Lemon law]

I somewhat missed the actual hearing---and to some extent relied on this thread which greatly understates how badly the testimony of Gonzales was received in the Senate.

But I have later learned, a number of GOP Senators are now commenting that the Gonzales testimony has now gone from mere political spin and deception---to a point---and to use the words of Arlan Spectur---"it now becomes very close to actionable." Which is a legal code praise to mean provable perjury.

But like the AG during teapot dome---I suspect that is how Gonzales will finally be forced out---as the congress is forced to begin the impeachment process against Alberto.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
It's like Hitler saying "Ethnicity does not matter".

The words are as such and the actions are opposite to what they say.

Gonzo needs to go, i'm not even American and even *I* get that.

of course somebody would have to drag Hitler into the fray...
Leave Adolf alone....he is dead......let him be!!

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
It's like Hitler saying "Ethnicity does not matter".

The words are as such and the actions are opposite to what they say.

Gonzo needs to go, i'm not even American and even *I* get that.

of course somebody would have to drag Hitler into the fray...
Leave Adolf alone....he is dead......let him be!!

That's an odd statement from someone who claims to be jewish....

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I somewhat missed the actual hearing---and to some extent relied on this thread which greatly understates how badly the testimony of Gonzales was received in the Senate.

But I have later learned, a number of GOP Senators are now commenting that the Gonzales testimony has now gone from mere political spin and deception---to a point---and to use the words of Arlan Spectur---"it now becomes very close to actionable." Which is a legal code praise to mean provable perjury.

But like the AG during teapot dome---I suspect that is how Gonzales will finally be forced out---as the congress is forced to begin the impeachment process against Alberto.

Accirding to anointerview I saw witth Leahy, Gonzo has a few days to change his answers. He changed a lot of his few answers he gave the last time he testified so?? Leahy said Tom Dashle was a member of the "gang of 8" they were refering to and his recollection of events was nothing similar to what gonzo is claiming.

Maybe we can pick off another buttwipe for perjury. If so Bush will have to pardon another cronie.

 

[csteggo]

Alberto Gonzalas cannot solve the problem in the Justice Department. He is part of the problem at the Justice Department. Whether or not he knowingly commited perjury and intentionally tried to deceive the commitee, this man seems absolutely incompetant. If he did not actually know what was going on at his department he was either negligent or painfully unqualified. If he did know what was going on he is deceitful and again not a good candidate for the most powerful law enforcement position. His department is in serious flux and there is little faith (not for lack of trying by Monica Goodling) in the department right now. There needs to be someone else of impeccable background and verifiable skills with a demonstratable lack of partisianship that can come clean up after him.

 

[Lemon law]

Actually---Alberto is a democratic wet dream---and I really have to wonder why GWB wants to keep on stubbornly supporting him. Because Gonzales has now become the very key that opens the doors to many hidden rooms. And were it a matter that there was a final end game where the avenues of inquiries dry up against a dead end---which is somewhat the case with Libby---supporting Alberto might make sense---but its now has to be apparent that this whole Justice Department stink revolves around Alberto and the congress will not rest until Gonzales is forced out.---and in the process it only generates negative publicity of GWB&co.---and does not backfire on the dems as hoped. And therefore GWB finds himself suffering a death of a thousand cuts as others in the administration get dragged into the scandal.

Possible explanations may be.

1. GWB just suffers from anal cranial inversion---and is just congenially stupid.

2. That GWB feels he must be seen as strong---and the second he backs down even a little---he will appear weak and congress will pounce on him.

3. That GWB will use Alberto as a bargaining chip---and finally trade him away for some other quid pro quo---and the more stubborn GWB is---the more valuable the bargaining chip becomes.