Golfers: replacing a putter head- how much?
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If you're paying 25 you're paying too much. I'd do it for $10, free for anyone I know.
If you have the head and the shaft, just go out and buy some epoxy. Clean off the end of the shaft and the inside of the hosel. Mix the epoxy and glue the 2 parts together. Presto.
Just make sure you align the head properly with the flat side of the grip.
If you have the head and the shaft, just go out and buy some epoxy. Clean off the end of the shaft and the inside of the hosel. Mix the epoxy and glue the 2 parts together. Presto.
Just make sure you align the head properly with the flat side of the grip.
I'm a complete golf newbie and I've been given an old set of clubs by a friend who's father passed away (they belonged to his father). The putter's shaft feels uncomfortably short compared to some that I've seen in stores so I'm in the market for a new putter. What sort of stuff should I look for?
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It's all about feel. Balanced head is very important, but it's what makes you feel comfortable. Personally, I just bought a Nike Blue Chip OZ Mallet. I picked one up in Dick's Sporting goods, and fell in love. Bought it online then. $130. I started a thread about putters before, another one that people recommended was the Odyssey White Hot. Depends on your budget though.
go to a golfsmith or any golf store and go crazy trying all of their putters...
experiment with lots of different types and choose the one that you like the most..
I personally use a scotty cameron putter, I know probably lots of cheaper putter can perform the same or better than this putter. But I like the sense of exclusivitiy that this putter gives. And I like the balance a lot...
Dont buy putters off ebay... you need to try it first (or go try and find the one you want, then go to ebay)
GagHalfrunt
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Don't overspend. You're not going to make any more putts with a $300 putter than you will with a $20 stick. Hit a local golf store, Sports Authority or other sporting goods shop and TRY EVERYTHING, but don't look at the prices. Buy what looks best to your eye and feels best to your stroke. If you shop by price you'll get brainwashed into that more expensive = better BS and you'll wind up buying a piece of junk like a Scotty Cameron. If you shop by feel and performance you'll wind up with something that works, if you shop by price you'll wind up with something that doesn't.
I also have a Cameron. When you buy a putter, you're buying it because of a couple things. You're buying it because it feels good when you hit it, and it makes you confident that you can make the putt in front of you. I bought mine on ebay new in the plastic, so it wasn't as expensive as most of them are.
As far as just replacing the head, you'll have a hard time finding someone that just sells OEM heads, so I would give the following forum a try...
Golf Equipment Aficionados - http://www.4gea.com
They have a lot of sponsors who would be glad to help you find the right component head, and maybe an OEM head.
Good luck.
As far as just replacing the head, you'll have a hard time finding someone that just sells OEM heads, so I would give the following forum a try...
Golf Equipment Aficionados - http://www.4gea.com
They have a lot of sponsors who would be glad to help you find the right component head, and maybe an OEM head.
Good luck.
GagHalfrunt
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Originally posted by: z0mb13
ouch.. scottys are a piece of junk??
care to share why?
Yes, they're Ping clones at 3 times the price. Scotty Cameron has had exactly one original idea in his life, the ungodly ugly Futura. All of Scotty's other clubs are copies of other companies designs. He's an outstanding club fitter, but he's a derivitive club designer.
There's a mindset in golf that buying an expensive club is a cure for bad play. A crappy driver of the ball will buy the most expensive driver as a cure (which is why nobody ever gets better) and people who putt badly think a $300 flatstick will solve the problem. Take 2 IDENTICAL clubs, mark one $50 and mark one $350 and pay a tour pro to claim he uses it. Place them in a pro shop right next to each other. Not only will the $350 club outsell the $50 club 10-1, but you'll have morons lining up to claim that the $50 club is a oiece of junk and that the $350 club saved their game.
Tell me, why do you think a Cameron costs so much? What technology do you think justifies the price? Is is a special kind of steel? A magical shaft? A grip made from rare rubber from the deepest darkest jungles of Africa? It's marketing, there's nothing in a Cameron that isn't in a putter that costs 1/3rd of the price. I'm willing to bet you the cost of your Cameron that you could not pick it out of a group of unmarked putters. I could take a $300 Cameron and a selection of $20-$50 putters and paint the heads so that they all look the same. Are you willing to bet that you could pick out the Cameron?
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: z0mb13
ouch.. scottys are a piece of junk??
care to share why?
Yes, they're Ping clones at 3 times the price. Scotty Cameron has had exactly one original idea in his life, the ungodly ugly Futura. All of Scotty's other clubs are copies of other companies designs. He's an outstanding club fitter, but he's a derivitive club designer.
There's a mindset in golf that buying an expensive club is a cure for bad play. A crappy driver of the ball will buy the most expensive driver as a cure (which is why nobody ever gets better) and people who putt badly think a $300 flatstick will solve the problem. Take 2 IDENTICAL clubs, mark one $50 and mark one $350 and pay a tour pro to claim he uses it. Place them in a pro shop right next to each other. Not only will the $350 club outsell the $50 club 10-1, but you'll have morons lining up to claim that the $50 club is a oiece of junk and that the $350 club saved their game.
Tell me, why do you think a Cameron costs so much? What technology do you think justifies the price? Is is a special kind of steel? A magical shaft? A grip made from rare rubber from the deepest darkest jungles of Africa? It's marketing, there's nothing in a Cameron that isn't in a putter that costs 1/3rd of the price. I'm willing to bet you the cost of your Cameron that you could not pick it out of a group of unmarked putters. I could take a $300 Cameron and a selection of $20-$50 putters and paint the heads so that they all look the same. Are you willing to bet that you could pick out the Cameron?
I thought camerons are extremely well balanced?? no??
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: z0mb13
ouch.. scottys are a piece of junk??
care to share why?
Yes, they're Ping clones at 3 times the price. Scotty Cameron has had exactly one original idea in his life, the ungodly ugly Futura. All of Scotty's other clubs are copies of other companies designs. He's an outstanding club fitter, but he's a derivitive club designer.
There's a mindset in golf that buying an expensive club is a cure for bad play. A crappy driver of the ball will buy the most expensive driver as a cure (which is why nobody ever gets better) and people who putt badly think a $300 flatstick will solve the problem. Take 2 IDENTICAL clubs, mark one $50 and mark one $350 and pay a tour pro to claim he uses it. Place them in a pro shop right next to each other. Not only will the $350 club outsell the $50 club 10-1, but you'll have morons lining up to claim that the $50 club is a oiece of junk and that the $350 club saved their game.
Tell me, why do you think a Cameron costs so much? What technology do you think justifies the price? Is is a special kind of steel? A magical shaft? A grip made from rare rubber from the deepest darkest jungles of Africa? It's marketing, there's nothing in a Cameron that isn't in a putter that costs 1/3rd of the price. I'm willing to bet you the cost of your Cameron that you could not pick it out of a group of unmarked putters. I could take a $300 Cameron and a selection of $20-$50 putters and paint the heads so that they all look the same. Are you willing to bet that you could pick out the Cameron?
Aren't you the guy who made it all the way to the us amateur using a 20.00 putter? Or was that someone else.
I have nothing against expensive clubs but I found a 20 dollar putter at a custom builders shop that is awesome. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
GagHalfrunt
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Yes they are. Go to a pro shop and pick up a $300 Cameron. Then pick up the $100 Ping it copies and the $30 Wilson knock-off. Check the balance of all 3. Balancing a putter is easy, I can take a piece of pipe, stick it on a shaft and get it balanced, all decent putters are balanced. Scotty's are marketing. He's a great clubfitter and Titleist spends a fortune paying tour players to get fit by Scotty and play those putters. Those clubs are hand built to exacting specs that match the players perfectly. The Scottys in a pro shop capitalize on the tour presence, they're copies, nothing more.
Seriously, go into a golf shop and grab a handful of Scottys. Walk around the putter display and compare them to Pings, Bobby Grace and TP Mills designs from Mizuno. EVERY Scotty other than the Futura is a copy of one of those other companies, check them side-by-side and you'll see it. In the upside-down world of golf equipment, people buy Scotty's because they cost MORE than the competitors they're copying.
I agree that scottys are marketed smartly...
remember golf is still a sport for the middle to upper class, and they equate high price with high quality
moreover scottys give a sense of prestige over the other putters... the headcovers and divot tools look very nice..
the decor on the putter is also very nice.. I also like the feel of the putter, I tried the inserts (2 ball) and I used to have a ping putter too.. but I like the scotty the best
GagHalfrunt
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Yeah, I've entered both the US Am and the US Open. Sadly, I'm in the skill level where they'll let me enter, but not nearly good enough where I can be successful. My handicap is around scratch most of the time and I ended 2003 at slightly plus, which is better than scratch. That's plenty good enough to be allowed to enter Open and US Amateur qualifying. To be successful on that level though, it's not in the ballpark. The best amatuer players have handicaps of +4 to +5, successful PGA pros are more like +6 to +7 and the best are +8 and above. During Tiger's hot streak in 2000 and 2001 he was better than +10. The really good players are on a level that most of us can't even begin to understand. I played 1st round of local qualifying for the Amateur once with a sub $20 putter, that was the best I ever did, missed qualifying for the sectional round by 1 shot.
Jesus, people, chill out. No kidding Scotty Camerons are copies of things that preceeded it. They're just made of different metals and such.
I bought mine because my old Odyssey mallet was all dinged up and bent, and it wouldn't line up very well.
And I certainly didn't spend $300 on it, either. If you happen to think it's just Titleist's marketing department inflating the prices of these putters, take a look at any brand's putters. They're all sold with the price of who is using them built in.
I'm getting off track here, but the point is, anyone could probably putt just as well as they do now with a miniature golf bullseye knockoff putter. However, putting is largely psychological, and people are buying things they feel most confident with. If a $20 putter makes you feel more confident than a $200 or $300 putter, then buy the freaking $20 putter!
I just don't understand why people get so upset about things like this.
I bought mine because my old Odyssey mallet was all dinged up and bent, and it wouldn't line up very well.
And I certainly didn't spend $300 on it, either. If you happen to think it's just Titleist's marketing department inflating the prices of these putters, take a look at any brand's putters. They're all sold with the price of who is using them built in.
I'm getting off track here, but the point is, anyone could probably putt just as well as they do now with a miniature golf bullseye knockoff putter. However, putting is largely psychological, and people are buying things they feel most confident with. If a $20 putter makes you feel more confident than a $200 or $300 putter, then buy the freaking $20 putter!
I just don't understand why people get so upset about things like this.
GagHalfrunt
Lifer
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Only Connecticut courses, you don't get to try to qualify on the big name courses where they hold the finals. This year the Open is at Shinnecock and the Am is at Winged Foot, 2 of the top 10 courses in the country. Qualifying works in 3 stages for the Amateur, 2 for the Open. First there's local qualifying, each state will have several (for big golf states like California, Florida and Texas maybe dozens) of sites. You enter one and only one site. There are usually between 100-150 players at a site and only a few advance. All those few from the many hundreds of local sites move on to sectional qualifying. Same principle except far fewer sites. Big fields and only the top couple move on from each course. For the US Open that's it, if you get through your sectional site you're in the field. For the US Am there's another stage, the top 300 or so from sectionals move on to the final stage, 36 holes played on 2 different courses. Top 64 make it into match play, the rest go home. Those final 64 go through single elimination 18 hole matches until a 36 hole final match between the last 2 standing determines the champion. For the US AM, between 7000 and 8000 players enter and only 64 make it to match play. Nice odds, huh? The guys who get there are amazing players.
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