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came right after i got home from work, perfect timing. i was able to head out and hit 18 before it got dark. played twice last week and shot a 100, 98 with my old clubs. shot a 90 today.

these work well for me, and for all you pros who are going to say i suck, i know, but i think i'm doing ok since i started march of this year.

http://www.ihostphotos.com/show.php?id=123985

http://www.ihostphotos.com/show.php?id=123994

ping hoofer lite bag
mizuno mx-17 steel shaft, regular flex
cleveland launcher 400cc stiff flex
cleveland launcher 15 degree 3 wood stiff flex
taylor made monza putter
 
A 90 is really good for starting in March.. Are you playing on Par 72 courses?

Also, did you get lessons?

I mean seriously.. a 90 is REALLY good for playing just that long..
 
yea par 72 courses, and yes i took 1 nike golf training camp so far, which was once a week for 6 weeks (1 hr). the camp also gave us 10 free rounds of golf, of which 5 of those, the instructor played with us and corrected/analyzed us. i plan to take the 2nd camp soon.
 
Do you guys think that new clubs make a big difference? Everyone tells me so but I like my 16 year old Mizuno irons and don't really want to buy new clubs unless it takes several shots off my score.

Plus how do you know what clubs would be right for you when you can't test them in the field. I don't want to base a decision to spend several hundred dollars on hitting balls at a screen in some store.

Right now I am usually around 90 for 18 and have been for the past 15 years!
 
Originally posted by: Britboy
Do you guys think that new clubs make a big difference? Everyone tells me so but I like my 16 year old Mizuno irons and don't really want to buy new clubs unless it takes several shots off my score.

Plus how do you know what clubs would be right for you when you can't test them in the field. I don't want to base a decision to spend several hundred dollars on hitting balls at a screen in some store.

Right now I am usually around 90 for 18 and have been for the past 15 years!
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I don't think irons will make that big of a difference unless your current set is worn out or the wrong flex or something.

Woods are a different story, the drivers today are noticeably better. Lighter, longer and waaaaay more forgiving. I got a new driver a month or two ago... thing should be illegal! 😛
 
i'm jealous of your new gear OP!!! 🙂
my irons are Dunlop Blue Max from 1979-80 or so. 😀

short story: I went in to a local golf shop a few years ago looking to get my old irons regripped. the guy working took a look at them and said, "i can sell you a better used set with new grips cheaper than what it will cost you to get those regripped." so i took him up on that. he offered me FIVE BUCKS trade-in value for my old set. LOL - no thanks. they're still around somewhere.

my last two nines have been the best of my season. Sunday i shot a 39 on a par 35 (4 bogeys). Last night I shot a 34 on a par 33! 2 bogeys & 1 bird. all this on one swing tip from a Mike Weir video clip. all i want to do right now is play, i can't think of anything else.

i think i'm right on the cusp of actually NEEDING new irons, but why bother? when i do it, i'm going to do it right - get fitted for my swing, spend a substantial amount of money, and they will hopefully be handed down to the next generation of Melties, should they ever come.
 
Any time someone tells you you need new irons, think again. Mark Calcaveccia (sp?) is still using Ping Eye 2's from the mid 80's, and he still makes a ton of money on the PGA Tour. Irons can be more forgiving and help you out that way, but for most rec. golfers it won't make a huge difference. If you really get into it, do what Melty is suggesting, get fitted properly and spend a bit more for some customization.

I played a playoff match last night, I was a 4 handicap, my opponent a 5. Had to give him a stroke on the hardest hole, our last of the evening. We were back and forth the whole way, I had two birdies, he had one, and we were tied going into the last hole. He plunked his tee shot into the water. I ripped one down the middle about 280, leaving 160 to the green with no obstacles. He punched a shot up by the green, and I stepped up to lace an 8 iron right to the heart of the green. I skulled the b!tch into the trees. Can you say choke? Then I had no shot at the pin, my only recourse was to roll it through a bunker if I wanted a chance to be on the green. I did so, but in my zeal to not stay in the sand, I blew it over the green. Dude chips on to about 15 feet. I chip to about 6 feet. He sinks his putt for a double-bogey 6, and I have a snake of a six footer for a bogey (which would tie the match). I was so pissed off from my earlier escapades, I just got up there and rammed it into the hole. It hit the back lip, popped up a few inches and went down. A great match, and we both enjoyed it immensely. (Last time we played he shot a 1-under and beat me 7-2 😱)

Golf is great. Were you watching the Masters 2003 video Melty?
Edit: nice scores btw ... :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Britboy
Do you guys think that new clubs make a big difference? Everyone tells me so but I like my 16 year old Mizuno irons and don't really want to buy new clubs unless it takes several shots off my score.

Plus how do you know what clubs would be right for you when you can't test them in the field. I don't want to base a decision to spend several hundred dollars on hitting balls at a screen in some store.

Right now I am usually around 90 for 18 and have been for the past 15 years!
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If the store charges you for trying out their irons, go elsewhere! You should be able to find somewhere that can fit you, and have you try different options out as part of the pre-sale.
 
Originally posted by: Patt
Any time someone tells you you need new irons, think again. Mark Calcaveccia (sp?) is still using Ping Eye 2's from the mid 80's, and he still makes a ton of money on the PGA Tour. Irons can be more forgiving and help you out that way, but for most rec. golfers it won't make a huge difference. If you really get into it, do what Melty is suggesting, get fitted properly and spend a bit more for some customization.

I played a playoff match last night, I was a 4 handicap, my opponent a 5. Had to give him a stroke on the hardest hole, our last of the evening. We were back and forth the whole way, I had two birdies, he had one, and we were tied going into the last hole. He plunked his tee shot into the water. I ripped one down the middle about 280, leaving 160 to the green with no obstacles. He punched a shot up by the green, and I stepped up to lace an 8 iron right to the heart of the green. I skulled the b!tch into the trees. Can you say choke? Then I had no shot at the pin, my only recourse was to roll it through a bunker if I wanted a chance to be on the green. I did so, but in my zeal to not stay in the sand, I blew it over the green. Dude chips on to about 15 feet. I chip to about 6 feet. He sinks his putt for a double-bogey 6, and I have a snake of a six footer for a bogey (which would tie the match). I was so pissed off from my earlier escapades, I just got up there and rammed it into the hole. It hit the back lip, popped up a few inches and went down. A great match, and we both enjoyed it immensely. (Last time we played he shot a 1-under and beat me 7-2 😱)

Golf is great. Were you watching the Masters 2003 video Melty?
Edit: nice scores btw ... :thumbsup:
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NICE JOB Patt! 🙂 I could read golf stories ALL DAY. Did your nerves get you on that approach shot? Way to ram it in the back of the hole buddy! :beer:

Actually the video was from a link I get in emails relating to the Bell Canadian Open. "Tour Tips" by Mike Weir or something. I had only watched a couple of the first 7 or 8 or so, but then one came on "Slices" and how to try to correct them. So I'm thinking, hey, I'm slicing my tee shots pretty good right now, I should watch this. Only when it loaded up, I noticed Mike had an iron in his hand. Hmm, interesting. He went on to say that a lot of amatuers rush their swing through with their arms. Something to try, Mike went on, was to start the downswing with a turn of the hips - nothing more. That is all I have been trying to do, and my results have been nice the past couple nines. It actually feels very effortless... my upper body simply reacts to my hip turn and everything sort of falls in line. I'm enjoying my swing!! I'm really geeked about it.
 
I use taylormade driver and woods and ping irons. I've had the irons for about 3 years now, driver for 1.5 years, and my trusy lob wedge and putter since I started playing 6 years ago. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Something to try, Mike went on, was to start the downswing with a turn of the hips - nothing more. That is all I have been trying to do, and my results have been nice the past couple nines. It actually feels very effortless... my upper body simply reacts to my hip turn and everything sort of falls in line. I'm enjoying my swing!! I'm really geeked about it.
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That's what your downswing trigger should be. Also try turning your wrists over all the way at impact a few times on the rang to get the feeling for completely loose wrists. Keeping completely loose wrists will also help your slice.

 
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Actually the video was from a link I get in emails relating to the Bell Canadian Open. "Tour Tips" by Mike Weir or something. I had only watched a couple of the first 7 or 8 or so, but then one came on "Slices" and how to try to correct them. So I'm thinking, hey, I'm slicing my tee shots pretty good right now, I should watch this. Only when it loaded up, I noticed Mike had an iron in his hand. Hmm, interesting. He went on to say that a lot of amatuers rush their swing through with their arms. Something to try, Mike went on, was to start the downswing with a turn of the hips - nothing more. That is all I have been trying to do, and my results have been nice the past couple nines. It actually feels very effortless... my upper body simply reacts to my hip turn and everything sort of falls in line. I'm enjoying my swing!! I'm really geeked about it.
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The key to playing better golf is making it effortless I'm quiite sure. My scores have dropped from the mid-80s to the high 70s in the last couple of years mainly because I'm playing more relaxed. Instead of trying to blast a pitching wedge 145 yards, I'll now take an easy 9. I have problems applying this logic to the driver, as I want it to go as far as possible, and I too am struggling with a slice at the moment. Always take an extra club, or two than you could actually hit it and check the results. You rarely see any PGA Tour pro ripping at shots that are in the fairways, and there is a good reason for it. You get way more spin hitting the shots lighter and cleaner too.
 
Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Something to try, Mike went on, was to start the downswing with a turn of the hips - nothing more. That is all I have been trying to do, and my results have been nice the past couple nines. It actually feels very effortless... my upper body simply reacts to my hip turn and everything sort of falls in line. I'm enjoying my swing!! I'm really geeked about it.
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That's what your downswing trigger should be. Also try turning your wrists over all the way at impact a few times on the rang to get the feeling for completely loose wrists. Keeping completely loose wrists will also help your slice.
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A while back someone told me I had to fix my swing from the ground up - starting with my left foot. On my backswing, my left foot was sometimes completely off the ground!! It was like I was winding up to hit one over the fences. He said, "You have to fix that foot - that is one happy foot you got going there - looks like a dance move." So I concentrated on keeping that sucker on the ground, no matter what. That was the first big change I made, and now with the hip turn to start the downswing, I think I can finally get into a groove and be able to enjoy my game more. Of course, everyone knows it is fleeting and good golf comes and goes, but it IS possible to develop a reliable swing and I think I am getting very close.
 
Originally posted by: Patt
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Actually the video was from a link I get in emails relating to the Bell Canadian Open. "Tour Tips" by Mike Weir or something. I had only watched a couple of the first 7 or 8 or so, but then one came on "Slices" and how to try to correct them. So I'm thinking, hey, I'm slicing my tee shots pretty good right now, I should watch this. Only when it loaded up, I noticed Mike had an iron in his hand. Hmm, interesting. He went on to say that a lot of amatuers rush their swing through with their arms. Something to try, Mike went on, was to start the downswing with a turn of the hips - nothing more. That is all I have been trying to do, and my results have been nice the past couple nines. It actually feels very effortless... my upper body simply reacts to my hip turn and everything sort of falls in line. I'm enjoying my swing!! I'm really geeked about it.
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The key to playing better golf is making it effortless I'm quiite sure. My scores have dropped from the mid-80s to the high 70s in the last couple of years mainly because I'm playing more relaxed. Instead of trying to blast a pitching wedge 145 yards, I'll now take an easy 9. I have problems applying this logic to the driver, as I want it to go as far as possible, and I too am struggling with a slice at the moment. Always take an extra club, or two than you could actually hit it and check the results. You rarely see any PGA Tour pro ripping at shots that are in the fairways, and there is a good reason for it. You get way more spin hitting the shots lighter and cleaner too.
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You know what's crazy - I haven't used my driver in a couple weeks. I have two - a Taylor Made Burner Bubble 10.5 stiff flex and a TM Firesole 10.5 regular flex. My friend is borrowing the Firesole and the BB stays in the bag. I can hit my 3-wood much straighter and almost as long. It's just not worth it for me to pull out the big dog! Some time on the range with it would help, but I can live without the extra 20 or 30 yards. Last night I was hitting 7-iron on short (250, 270) yardage par 4s - when I could have been trying to run one up. I just want to find fairways & greens.
 
Dump those iron covers. They scream beginner - no normal golfer would be caught dead with them in his/her bag.

Also, clubs DO NOT make the golfer. More importantly, expensive clubs are generally made for lower handicap players and are much more difficult to hit well. However, they are generally easier to control if you have a good swing. There are many mid level clubs that are made for mid to high handicap golfers and make the game much easier for someone that is just breaking 100.
 
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: Patt
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Actually the video was from a link I get in emails relating to the Bell Canadian Open. "Tour Tips" by Mike Weir or something. I had only watched a couple of the first 7 or 8 or so, but then one came on "Slices" and how to try to correct them. So I'm thinking, hey, I'm slicing my tee shots pretty good right now, I should watch this. Only when it loaded up, I noticed Mike had an iron in his hand. Hmm, interesting. He went on to say that a lot of amatuers rush their swing through with their arms. Something to try, Mike went on, was to start the downswing with a turn of the hips - nothing more. That is all I have been trying to do, and my results have been nice the past couple nines. It actually feels very effortless... my upper body simply reacts to my hip turn and everything sort of falls in line. I'm enjoying my swing!! I'm really geeked about it.
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The key to playing better golf is making it effortless I'm quiite sure. My scores have dropped from the mid-80s to the high 70s in the last couple of years mainly because I'm playing more relaxed. Instead of trying to blast a pitching wedge 145 yards, I'll now take an easy 9. I have problems applying this logic to the driver, as I want it to go as far as possible, and I too am struggling with a slice at the moment. Always take an extra club, or two than you could actually hit it and check the results. You rarely see any PGA Tour pro ripping at shots that are in the fairways, and there is a good reason for it. You get way more spin hitting the shots lighter and cleaner too.
Click to expand...

You know what's crazy - I haven't used my driver in a couple weeks. I have two - a Taylor Made Burner Bubble 10.5 stiff flex and a TM Firesole 10.5 regular flex. My friend is borrowing the Firesole and the BB stays in the bag. I can hit my 3-wood much straighter and almost as long. It's just not worth it for me to pull out the big dog! Some time on the range with it would help, but I can live without the extra 20 or 30 yards. Last night I was hitting 7-iron on short (250, 270) yardage par 4s - when I could have been trying to run one up. I just want to find fairways & greens.
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I played the first 15 years of my golf life without a driver. My stainless steel, first generation metal-wood served me well for that long. I was able to rip that ah heck though, and only started getting interested in the new drivers when I realized my friends were blowing their drives past me 40, 50 yards sometimes. That being said, I only pull my driver 5-6 times a round. Shorter par 4s I hit the three wood, or often a 3-iron if it is a narrow hole, or I need to really position a shot. I'd love to get a 2-iron, but TaylorMade doesn't make a 2 iron for the set I have (I'm a lefty, and they made it for righties 🙁)

Another thing to try is to just hit to the very center of every green. So long as your putter is working, you'll score well just doing that too. So many variables to think about, sometimes I'm amazed I ever make contact!
 
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: junkerman123
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Something to try, Mike went on, was to start the downswing with a turn of the hips - nothing more. That is all I have been trying to do, and my results have been nice the past couple nines. It actually feels very effortless... my upper body simply reacts to my hip turn and everything sort of falls in line. I'm enjoying my swing!! I'm really geeked about it.
Click to expand...

That's what your downswing trigger should be. Also try turning your wrists over all the way at impact a few times on the rang to get the feeling for completely loose wrists. Keeping completely loose wrists will also help your slice.
Click to expand...

A while back someone told me I had to fix my swing from the ground up - starting with my left foot. On my backswing, my left foot was sometimes completely off the ground!! It was like I was winding up to hit one over the fences. He said, "You have to fix that foot - that is one happy foot you got going there - looks like a dance move." So I concentrated on keeping that sucker on the ground, no matter what. That was the first big change I made, and now with the hip turn to start the downswing, I think I can finally get into a groove and be able to enjoy my game more. Of course, everyone knows it is fleeting and good golf comes and goes, but it IS possible to develop a reliable swing and I think I am getting very close.
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Consistency is the most important thing. Technical perfection is only second. If you can compensate for your swing faults and consistently hit good shots, then you shouldn't necessarily be tempted to make changes. But if you have a chronic push/pull/slice or some other problem, a change needs to be made. For me personally, I know pretty much exactly what my perfect swing should be like, and I make that perfect swing approximately 40% of the time. The other 60% I immediately know what I did wrong. My goal is to get out to the range and work on making that perfect swing 100% of the time. Once I am able to make that swing consistently I will be limited only by my short game and putting.
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
Dump those iron covers. They scream beginner - no normal golfer would be caught dead with them in his/her bag.
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I'm no fan of iron covers, mainly because of the pain in the arse they can be, and I too think they're goofy looking. Your bag is good enough they shouldn't bang around too much when you carry. 🙂 I've got a ping Hoofer and love the light weight and tons o'pockets.
 
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