Golf: Tight wrist, loose grip HTF??

[PlatinumGold]

mb i'm just not built for this sport but i can't get how you maintain a firm and tight wrist and yet have a loose grip with the hands.

if i firm up my wrists my grip tightens. isn't that natural?

 

[spidey07]

You'll get the feel of it.

You just don't grp the crap out of the club.

You can firm up your wrists, but keep your fingers somewhat loose. I have a trigger finger, and even that is a little loose, but firmer than my other fingers.

 

[Good Bye]

Relax your Triceps. That should help. I've been a golf teacher for about 3 years now at a local Country Club.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Good Bye
Relax your Triceps. That should help. I've been a golf teacher for about 3 years now at a local Country Club.

No comments on my trigger finger?

I wanted to see how many people know about it and what it's really called in golf lingo.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

You take a loose grip at address, this promotes relaxation of the long muscles which makes for a smooth takeaway and a more rythmic swing which will generate more clubhead speed thus more power. Don't know where you heard "tight wrist" that won't help. Your grip will involantarily tighten automatically as you approach the ball at impact due to the increased tension caused by centrifical force.

The best swing aid I ever had was a club made out of garden hose with a grip on one end and a normal clubhead on the other. It will teach you to use centrifical force and swing the clubhead not the shaft. The first time I saw the club pro hit a 250yd drive with it, I almost shat my pants

 

[Good Bye]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Good Bye
Relax your Triceps. That should help. I've been a golf teacher for about 3 years now at a local Country Club.

No comments on my trigger finger?

I wanted to see how many people know about it and what it's really called in golf lingo.

Your Trigger finger should be your right index finger. Sometimes it may cause you to come over the top of the ball. It's not that big of a deal though.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
You take a loose grip at address, this promotes relaxation of the long muscles which makes for a smooth takeaway and a more rythmic swing which will generate more clubhead speed thus more power. Don't know where you heard "tight wrist" that won't help. Your grip will involantarily tighten automatically as you approach the ball at impact due to the increased tension caused by centrifical force.

The best swing aid I ever had was a club made out of garden hose with a grip on one end and a normal clubhead on the other. It will teach you to use centrifical force and swing the clubhead not the shaft. The first time I saw the club pro hit a 250yd drive with it, I almost shat my pants

http://www.medicus.com/land01.php?sid=22621&g=1

the medicus driver does pretty much that.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold


http://www.medicus.com/land01.php?sid=22621&g=1

the medicus driver does pretty much that.

Yep, I've used those too, but the garden hose is much cheaper

 

[Good Bye]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
You take a loose grip at address, this promotes relaxation of the long muscles which makes for a smooth takeaway and a more rythmic swing which will generate more clubhead speed thus more power. Don't know where you heard "tight wrist" that won't help. Your grip will involantarily tighten automatically as you approach the ball at impact due to the increased tension caused by centrifical force.

The best swing aid I ever had was a club made out of garden hose with a grip on one end and a normal clubhead on the other. It will teach you to use centrifical force and swing the clubhead not the shaft. The first time I saw the club pro hit a 250yd drive with it, I almost shat my pants

http://www.medicus.com/land01.php?sid=22621&g=1

the medicus driver does pretty much that.

No, no, no, no. I absolutely hate that training aid. It does nothing to a person with a high swing speed because you have to swing like 40mph not to hinge it. If you even swing 70 it hinges.

 

[Ausm]

Practice on your own shaft


Ausm

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Good Bye
Your Trigger finger should be your right index finger. Sometimes it may cause you to come over the top of the ball. It's not that big of a deal though.

Thanks.

It does feel nice and feels like I can snap the club more at the bottom. I call it a trigger finger because it is pretty pronounced in my grip (a good 1-1.5" from the other 3). 3 finger, with an elongated index finger. It just feels like I can really generate club head speed this way. It looks like I'm pulling a trigger.

 

[Good Bye]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Good Bye
Your Trigger finger should be your right index finger. Sometimes it may cause you to come over the top of the ball. It's not that big of a deal though.

Thanks.

It does feel nice and feels like I can snap the club more at the bottom. I call it a trigger finger because it is pretty pronounced in my grip (a good 1-1.5" from the other 3). 3 finger, with an elongated index finger. It just feels like I can really generate club head speed this way. It looks like I'm pulling a trigger.

As long as your thumb is closer to you than you index finger your fine. Although an inch is a little too much just work hard on getting it a little closer to you.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: Good Bye

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

http://www.medicus.com/land01.php?sid=22621&g=1

the medicus driver does pretty much that.

No, no, no, no. I absolutely hate that training aid. It does nothing to a person with a high swing speed because you have to swing like 40mph not to hinge it. If you even swing 70 it hinges.

It is a great training aid for people just starting out, but you are correct it is useless for more advanced golfers (high swing speed). But if your capable of high swings speeds, you have already mastered the basic mechanics and don't need that type aid. And I beg to differ with your numbers, with proper swing mechanics you can swing it 70 without breaking it, but you can't swing 95-100 with it. And certainly not 115-125 like most tour pro's generate

 

[spidey07]

meh, I don't know if I can get rid of it. feels too good.-

sorry to hijack OP.

And welcome to the forums Good Bye. We need some more good golf topics around here.

 

[Good Bye]

Originally posted by: spidey07
meh, I don't know if I can get rid of it. feels too good.-

sorry to hijack OP.

And welcome to the forums Good Bye. We need some more good golf topics around here.

Thank you, and like I stated above, it's not too big of a deal.

 

[BAMAVOO]

I have a 95 mph swing and can swing the medicus 5 iron without it breaking. just did it yesterday at the golf shop.

If I can only master my driver I couuld stay at 37 or lower on 9. I generally have a bad tee shot get me in trouble on a couple of holes and push to a 40 - 41...

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
I have a 95 mph swing and can swing the medicus 5 iron without it breaking. just did it yesterday at the golf shop.

If I can only master my driver I couuld stay at 37 or lower on 9. I generally have a bad tee shot get me in trouble on a couple of holes and push to a 40 - 41...

If your driver is getting you in trouble on certain holes, leave it in the bag. Tiger won the british open and only used the big stick 3 times in 72 holes

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
I have a 95 mph swing and can swing the medicus 5 iron without it breaking. just did it yesterday at the golf shop.

If I can only master my driver I couuld stay at 37 or lower on 9. I generally have a bad tee shot get me in trouble on a couple of holes and push to a 40 - 41...

If your driver is getting you in trouble on certain holes, leave it in the bag. Tiger won the british open and only used the big stick 3 times in 72 holes

personally for me, that doesn't work, no matter which club i use on the tee box, even if it's my nike CPR Wood (rescue wood) that i hit well 9 times out of 10 from the field, when i try it from the tee box, i yank it or do something weird with it.

it's psychological for me at the moment.

 

[beach2nd]

Originally posted by: Good Bye
Relax your Triceps. That should help. I've been a golf teacher for about 3 years now at a local Country Club.

Any suggestions for my slice?

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: beach2nd1

Originally posted by: Good Bye
Relax your Triceps. That should help. I've been a golf teacher for about 3 years now at a local Country Club.

Any suggestions for my slice?

Aim farther left j/k

Seriously its pretty simple but easier said than done

1. Make a good shoulder turn during the backswing
2. Lead the downswing with your hips and left shoulder(RH player)
3. Keep the club on the same plane(path) durring the downswing that the club followed on the backswing.
4. If done properly you will almost feel like your right elbow is riding right on your right hip through the downswing

Most higher handicap golfers have the same problem. They start the downswing with their hands/arms at the top, and immediately cross outside the correct swing plane. Once this happens the only way to get back to the ball is to come back from outside to inside creating the slice. This is also affectionately know as "coming over the top" or "chopping wood"

A good way to practice keeping the correct swing plane is to plant 4-5 tees about 1-1/2 inches apart in a straight line toward the intended target. Then practice swinging the club "straight down the line" knocking down all the tees. If you come over the top you will miss the first couple of tee's or the last couple of tee's

 

[new2AMD]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: beach2nd1

Originally posted by: Good Bye
Relax your Triceps. That should help. I've been a golf teacher for about 3 years now at a local Country Club.

Any suggestions for my slice?

Aim farther left j/k

Seriously its pretty simple but easier said than done

1. Make a good shoulder turn during the backswing
2. Lead the downswing with your hips and left shoulder(RH player)
3. Keep the club on the same plane(path) durring the downswing that the club followed on the backswing.
4. If done properly you will almost feel like your right elbow is riding right on your right hip through the downswing

Most higher handicap golfers have the same problem. They start the downswing with their hands/arms at the top, and immediately cross outside the correct swing plane. Once this happens the only way to get back to the ball is to come back from outside to inside creating the slice. This is also affectionately know as "coming over the top" or "chopping wood"

A good way to practice keeping the correct swing plane is to plant 4-5 tees about 1-1/2 inches apart in a straight line toward the intended target. Then practice swinging the club "straight down the line" knocking down all the tees. If you come over the top you will miss the first couple of tee's or the last couple of tee's

place the tees behind the ball correct?

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: new2AMD
place the tees behind the ball correct?

No ball, this is a practice swing exercize.
Place 1 where the ball would be, with two in front and two behind

*edit*
I've done this a few times on the practice tee with a ball on the center tee, but I wouldn't recommend it as you may wind up catching a tee in the face

 

[Patt]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: beach2nd1

Originally posted by: Good Bye
Relax your Triceps. That should help. I've been a golf teacher for about 3 years now at a local Country Club.

Any suggestions for my slice?

Aim farther left j/k

Seriously its pretty simple but easier said than done

1. Make a good shoulder turn during the backswing
2. Lead the downswing with your hips and left shoulder(RH player)
3. Keep the club on the same plane(path) durring the downswing that the club followed on the backswing.
4. If done properly you will almost feel like your right elbow is riding right on your right hip through the downswing

Most higher handicap golfers have the same problem. They start the downswing with their hands/arms at the top, and immediately cross outside the correct swing plane. Once this happens the only way to get back to the ball is to come back from outside to inside creating the slice. This is also affectionately know as "coming over the top" or "chopping wood"

A good way to practice keeping the correct swing plane is to plant 4-5 tees about 1-1/2 inches apart in a straight line toward the intended target. Then practice swinging the club "straight down the line" knocking down all the tees. If you come over the top you will miss the first couple of tee's or the last couple of tee's

You know what works better than tees? Pipe cleaners ... yeah those old fuzzy-covered pieces of thin wire. You can just rebend them up straight instead of having to go back and plant all the tees again.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: Patt

You know what works better than tees? Pipe cleaners ... yeah those old fuzzy-covered pieces of thin wire. You can just rebend them up straight instead of having to go back and plant all the tees again.

That's a great idea:light:

 

[meltdown75]

All I concentrate on with my grip is gripping just hard enough so the club doesn't fly out when I swing. I also like the tube of toothpaste analogy... ie. pretend if you grip it too hard, toothpaste will come out.

My grip is interlocking though, and it's automatic now. I even use it putting. It took a while to get used to, but I've been interlocking for a few years and before that I was overlapping. When I started out though, it was baseball-grip style. I don't think I could hit a club like that now.

On "Play with the Pros" with Brad Faxon recently, he demonstrated how your arms should feel when gripping the club. If you grip the club and someone stands in front of you and grabs the club shaft and pulls, your arms should move freely. In the example, the player's arms were very rigid. So Fax couldn't pull the club hardly at all until he had the player relax his arms. I also like the "arms of rope" analogy, ie. your arms should feel like loose rope as they hang down, especially with the irons.

Anyhoo... lately I've just been concentrating on swinging and following through and I have been shooting much better. Mechanical swing thoughts are very bad for my game, personally.

I forget who said it, but my favourite golf quote as of late is, "there is no room for conscious effort in golf."