[Update] 9.30.05: Currently stalking components. I'll leave the OP below for historocity.
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GOLF: Ping G5's vs Callaway X-18's
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I'd talk to my pro and ask what he thinks and watch me swing with both sets. Or get customs (you can get a lot better club this way)
purbeast0
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I just got some component clubs that resemble the fusion irons, and i have had nothing but positive results from them. the offset is greater than my previous irons which made my addressing of the ball kind of different. not to mention my new shafts are steel instead of graphite.
overall i'm very VERy happy w/these new clubs. i am hitting my 3iron as consistant as my PW its crazy.
good luck w/your decision.
not to mention, I paid < $250 for the entire set built to my specs
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overall i'm very VERy happy w/these new clubs. i am hitting my 3iron as consistant as my PW its crazy.
good luck w/your decision.
not to mention, I paid < $250 for the entire set built to my specs
.I hate the thick topline on the calloway's. I play with a 19 year old set of Eye 2's, they are still fine. I vote Ping.
Cleveland makes some nice irons, too.
Cleveland makes some nice irons, too.
I love the look of the Cleveland CG1's ... and I play the precursor to the TaylorMade RAC irons which are pretty sweet. I don't like the view of the Callaways, though I know several people who swear by them. What sort of handicap/shotmaking skills do you possess? Get some blades for workability if you're good, if you're not quite there yet, use some of the Callaway game-improvers to help with the odd mis-hit.
Were you able to take them to a range or even demo them on a course?
But usually when buying a new set I go for feel first, but how it looks when you are standing over it addressed to the ball is important too, you dont want to be distracted. Another thing you can try is taking the longest iron in the set(3 iron probably) and see which one of those feels better since they are usually hardest to hit out the set.
Right now i'm playing the Cleveland TA7s which I love the feel of, I also tried the Taylor Mades of the same price range but I wasn't as fond of those. Also I don't know if Mizunos are out of your price range but they are very good irons as well, other than the ones you mentioned.
Hope this helps some
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But usually when buying a new set I go for feel first, but how it looks when you are standing over it addressed to the ball is important too, you dont want to be distracted. Another thing you can try is taking the longest iron in the set(3 iron probably) and see which one of those feels better since they are usually hardest to hit out the set.
Right now i'm playing the Cleveland TA7s which I love the feel of, I also tried the Taylor Mades of the same price range but I wasn't as fond of those. Also I don't know if Mizunos are out of your price range but they are very good irons as well, other than the ones you mentioned.
Hope this helps some
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redgtxdi
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Well, Taylor made *should* be in your choice of clubs, but if they're not............
I'd probably choose the Pings simply for the problem you mentioned. Yes, shiny clubs look nice, but a nice fat glare of one of those suckers and that's not worth it. Especially if you get "flashed" and you can only see a big bright spot when you're looking at the ball. No good!
I'd be surprised if the Callaway was any less club than the Ping and I do think those Callaways look "killer" and would look great in the bag, but Ping has always done a good job of making great clubs!
As another poster here.......I'm using Ping Eye2's....(knockoffs, really)......and still enjoy the heck out of 'em.
I absolutely looooooooooooove how folks are goin' back to steel shafts. I love steel. I love to "feel" something at the top of my swing. It just helps my overall "feel". I've only recently gone to a graphite shafted driver and the only reason I'm keeping it is because I can hit it well. Now, I just need a good 3-wood....or hybrid........
I'd probably choose the Pings simply for the problem you mentioned. Yes, shiny clubs look nice, but a nice fat glare of one of those suckers and that's not worth it. Especially if you get "flashed" and you can only see a big bright spot when you're looking at the ball. No good!
I'd be surprised if the Callaway was any less club than the Ping and I do think those Callaways look "killer" and would look great in the bag, but Ping has always done a good job of making great clubs!
As another poster here.......I'm using Ping Eye2's....(knockoffs, really)......and still enjoy the heck out of 'em.
I absolutely looooooooooooove how folks are goin' back to steel shafts. I love steel. I love to "feel" something at the top of my swing. It just helps my overall "feel". I've only recently gone to a graphite shafted driver and the only reason I'm keeping it is because I can hit it well. Now, I just need a good 3-wood....or hybrid........
DanTMWTMP
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- Oct 7, 2001
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Another shameless plug for ping irons.
I've always said to get customs, and stand by it. Never. NEVER NEVER get anything else but custom made irons. Go talk to a Henry Griffiths pro rep, or go to a club pro to take your exact club measurements (club head angle, shaft length, etc) while you're in stance. And give these measurements to ping.
Custom clubs > *.
I myself have the geniune Ping Eye copper(the original ping eye's from like the early 90's w/ the square grooving. They don't make these anymore, let alone make irons w/ square grooves. Square grooves are illegal in the european tour last i heard). My clubs were custom fitted to me w/ the help of a henry griffiths club pro who specialized in custom fitting clubs.
I also have steel shafts Steel rules, because you FEEL the ball. You KNOW when you made a mistake, because it hurts like hell when you did lol.
In My opinion, Iron technology already peaked during the late 80 to mid 90's w/ the ping eye /2's. The crap they have today are just gimmicks. It doesn't make you a better golfer. Only you w/ the correctly fitted clubs can make yourself a better golfer, and not the "Crazy technology" that goes into clubs today.
I've always said to get customs, and stand by it. Never. NEVER NEVER get anything else but custom made irons. Go talk to a Henry Griffiths pro rep, or go to a club pro to take your exact club measurements (club head angle, shaft length, etc) while you're in stance. And give these measurements to ping.
Custom clubs > *.
I myself have the geniune Ping Eye copper(the original ping eye's from like the early 90's w/ the square grooving. They don't make these anymore, let alone make irons w/ square grooves. Square grooves are illegal in the european tour last i heard). My clubs were custom fitted to me w/ the help of a henry griffiths club pro who specialized in custom fitting clubs.
I also have steel shafts Steel rules, because you FEEL the ball. You KNOW when you made a mistake, because it hurts like hell when you did lol.
In My opinion, Iron technology already peaked during the late 80 to mid 90's w/ the ping eye /2's. The crap they have today are just gimmicks. It doesn't make you a better golfer. Only you w/ the correctly fitted clubs can make yourself a better golfer, and not the "Crazy technology" that goes into clubs today.
Originally posted by: redgtxdi
Well, Taylor made *should* be in your choice of clubs, but if they're not............
I'd probably choose the Pings simply for the problem you mentioned. Yes, shiny clubs look nice, but a nice fat glare of one of those suckers and that's not worth it. Especially if you get "flashed" and you can only see a big bright spot when you're looking at the ball. No good!
I'd be surprised if the Callaway was any less club than the Ping and I do think those Callaways look "killer" and would look great in the bag, but Ping has always done a good job of making great clubs!
As another poster here.......I'm using Ping Eye2's....(knockoffs, really)......and still enjoy the heck out of 'em.
I absolutely looooooooooooove how folks are goin' back to steel shafts. I love steel. I love to "feel" something at the top of my swing. It just helps my overall "feel". I've only recently gone to a graphite shafted driver and the only reason I'm keeping it is because I can hit it well. Now, I just need a good 3-wood....or hybrid........
I play steel on everything except driver (as any man should unless they are over 50)
But you mentioned hybrid on the 3 wood. I have a bi-matrix shart on my 3 wood and I am here to say it is my absolute favorite club in the bag - when you hit it solid the sound is out of this world and it flies for days to boot.
The thick topline doesn't so much bother me as the chrome finish being a little distracting. It's funny though, I didn't even consider it a distraction until I compared it to other clubs. I would suppose a bright day in the sun would soon bring me to hate that chrome finish.
Currently, I appreciate the forgiveness of cavity-back med-size irons. I just don't get out enough right now to consider working on the capability of a blade.
I have an open invitation to demo any clubs I want at a range; which I will do eventually. For now I'm getting familiar with a few local Pro shops and am benefitting from time and advice at their screens. I will be buying from a local shop because I appreciate the time and skill that the shop owners offer. Asking for actual advice on your 3/4 swing just isn't an option from an online merchant. Reading about correct form is one thing, seeing it and receiving immediate feedback to me is crucial. Haven't looked at Mizuno's at all; being that they're more than I want to spend for a set of irons (I'm already getting flack for considering the sets I've chosen, considering my being new to golf. Ahh shucks. cat's out of the bag now...).
I've been swinging the graphite versions when available and though the swing feels good I don't feel the same connection with the ball that I do when swinging steel. Without the confidence there [for me] I don't even consider graphite irons. I've played the Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood 3H & 5H Hybrids and I might just put those in my bag and not agonize over a driver. I just found I could hit those clubs hard with consistency.Originally posted by: redgtxdi
I absolutely looooooooooooove how folks are goin' back to steel shafts. I love steel. I love to "feel" something at the top of my swing. It just helps my overall "feel". I've only recently gone to a graphite shafted driver and the only reason I'm keeping it is because I can hit it well. Now, I just need a good 3-wood....or hybrid........
I've had two quick measurements thus far and I'm a 1/4" off from what the charts read as "standard" length for clubs (a variance in shoe or stance can minimize or exaggerate that). With dead arms my head angle is consistently level and my swing maintains an accurate approach. I do struggle a bit with a full back swing but working on my grip is minimizing that quickly. I have a smooth and natural follow through.
A friend of mine's Son-In-Law is the head pro at a course a few hours away. I'm going to spend some time with him and get a swing analysis, accurate measurement and club recommendation before finally buying. I just want to get as much demo and learning in as I can to make that time more effective. Some might argue that starting off with the Golf Pro would set me in the right direction quicker. I dunno, I see both directions as being right. My enthusiasm however leads me into the shops today and my scheduling pushes the 3 hour "Pro" trip out a month.
I agree in getting fitted clubs; especially in spending this kind of money.
redgtxdi
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One of the things I've found that truly frustrates me is this.............
When I haven't golfed in a few months I hit my woods great & my irons "OK'.
When I golf once a week for a month I start to suffer on my woods and my irons get really good.
Serious "catch 22" in the golf game!
But that's OK.........watching a good Pro like Tiger or Vijay or Mickelson, have a bad Sunday makes me feel right at home!! LOL!!!
When I haven't golfed in a few months I hit my woods great & my irons "OK'.
When I golf once a week for a month I start to suffer on my woods and my irons get really good.
Serious "catch 22" in the golf game!
But that's OK.........watching a good Pro like Tiger or Vijay or Mickelson, have a bad Sunday makes me feel right at home!! LOL!!!
I would definitely go with the Callway's
My current set is the Callway Big Bertha irons, huge sweet spot and very easy to hit... high quality clubs and I would definitely go with them again
My current set is the Callway Big Bertha irons, huge sweet spot and very easy to hit... high quality clubs and I would definitely go with them again
How long have you had your BB's? What did you compare them to when you chose? i confess that I didnt' consider them because I was more focused on the higher priced irons in my budget range. Any issue with the chrome finish in your experience? I know I mentioned it earlier as a distraction; but realistically I can't believe Callaway would leave them chrome finished if it were an issue. The Callaway Big Bertha's run $499 at my local shop.
Yeah, it's nice to see the Pro's stagger once in a while. However, on their bad day they're still making par!
I've had my set for around 2 yrs now, no compliants at all... no issues with the chrome finish neither, never a distraction... I chose the Big Bertha set because it's easy to hit, which is great for me since I'm not a very good golfer... I believe the X-18s are for more advanced golfers
GagHalfrunt
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Crap is crap. Buy the Callaways. They make junk, but back it up with great customer service. That way, when you get the set home and can't hit three of the clubs because they're so far out of spec, they'll get them fixed for you quickly.
Gag, care to back your claim up with equittable discussion? I noted in the other golf posts that though you might have a point at times you very quickly render your arguments ineffective by simply being too much full of piss and vinegar. Care to try again with a little more info? I'm all ears... eyes rather.
GagHalfrunt
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Ever take a set of Callaways (or Pings for that matter) apart and blueprint them? Didn't think so, if you had you would not be asking the question, starting this thread or buying either set. How about we meet at a golf shop somewhere and I bring a loft and lie gauge and a frequency analyzer. For every set of Callaways where each club is on spec I'll give you $1000. For every set with at least one club out of spec you give me $100. OEM clubs are junk, the build quality is non-existant and the term "set of irons" can only be applied because the clubs come in the same box, not because they match each other properly. I have never blueprinted a set of Callaways that were right out of the box. A $150 set from K-mart has about the same quality control.
I'll give you credit though, at least the companies you've narrowed it down to have good service. If you were buying Titleist or TM you'd be getting a poorly matched set, but you'd have no chance of getting it fixed free.
DanTMWTMP
Lifer
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well, i do have callaway woods, and so does my dad. Their customer service IS good.
I scuffed up my shaft once, and since it was the stock graphite shaft that came w/ the 3wood, they fixed it for me for free. I had the club for a year then.
My dad let my bro use his driver once. My bro is VERY very strong lol. My dad's callaway driver has one very stiff flex rating on his shaft. He had the driver for like 3 years or so. My brother let it rip ball after ball at the range.
My brother can hit the ball farther than i can. I used to hit 300+ yards w/ my driver (before injury). He kept hitting my dad's driver over the fence of the driving range.
Anyways, ball after ball, the shaft gave way, and the club head snapped from the shaft upon impact with the ball. The funny thing is, we heard a clean hit, and the ball sailed as it did over the fence, EXCEPT, we saw the clubhead fly with the ball towards the first 75 yard marker.
holy crap lol. :Q.
Well, needless to say, Callaway gladly replaced the shaft, and it came back looking like new, save for some minor scratches that's expected from a used driver
.Well, thanks for that recognition
. For your own edification, where does your experience come from? If you're so adamant and particular about qc issues with the branded clubs then please provide as equal a dissertation as to what you think a person should do instead. Take into account that the differences you're exclaiming with what you may be measuring with your gauge and analyzer might not be noticeable by the average or even somewhat advanced golfer. Perhaps I'm wrong, but if your intent is to help people understand what it is you're talking about, try a more personable approach. Otherwise it doesn't matter if you have a point or not. It just becomes unpleasant discussion.
Originally posted by: Sketcher
Well, thanks for that recognition
For your own edification, where does your experience come from? If you're so adamant and particular about qc issues with the branded clubs then please provide as equal a dissertation as to what you think a person should do instead. Take into account that the differences you're exclaiming with what you may be measuring with your gauge and analyzer might not be noticeable by the average or even somewhat advanced golfer. Perhaps I'm wrong, but if your intent is to help people understand what it is you're talking about, try a more personable approach. Otherwise it doesn't matter if you have a point or not. It just becomes unpleasant discussion.
lol that guy just needs to get laid.
The point is get your clubs custom built for you and make sure they are true.
Everybody is different. I will never, ever buy a set of clubs off the rack again.
Everybody is different. I will never, ever buy a set of clubs off the rack again.
I mean no offense by inquiring. David Mobley won the 2004 Remax Long Drive Championship with a 377 yard drive. Was his drive just remarkable for the conditions during that competition or are you an your brother exceptionally good long drive hitters?
I have a custom made ping is3 set, and I love it
I would go with ping! if u get it custom made, you can get ur name engraved for free. the downside is u cant sell it when u want to buy new clubs
also if u lost one iron out of the set, you can call ping and give them the serial number of ur irons, then they will make one exatcly like what ur specs are
callaways are also good, but the downside of the x18 is the chrome face scratches VERY easily.. it will look like crap after a couple of months
I would go with ping! if u get it custom made, you can get ur name engraved for free. the downside is u cant sell it when u want to buy new clubs
also if u lost one iron out of the set, you can call ping and give them the serial number of ur irons, then they will make one exatcly like what ur specs are
callaways are also good, but the downside of the x18 is the chrome face scratches VERY easily.. it will look like crap after a couple of months
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